If and once Quebec separate from Canada

[1967100]

They have many resources such as timber, mines, and energy that is vital to our Canadian economy. If they leave our country, we are pretty much finished if we don't survive by trading with their beautful nation. So, do you think this means that Quebec will replace the US as our largest trading partner?

[B. Max]

They have many resources such as timber, mines, and energy that is vital to our Canadian economy. If they leave our country, we are pretty much finished if we don't survive by trading with their beautful nation. So, do you think this means that Quebec will replace the US as our largest trading partner?

Absolutely not. The US will remain Alberta's best trading partner as will most of the west. I really hope that Alberta is the forst domino.

[sharkman]

No, they will not replace the U.S. as our biggest trading partner, they will replace the U.S. as our most disliked neighbour.

[B. Max]

No, they will not replace the U.S. as our biggest trading partner, they will replace the U.S. as our most disliked neighbour.

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[Who's Doing What?]

No, they will not replace the U.S. as our biggest trading partner, they will replace the U.S. as our most disliked neighbour.

[Kapitän Rotbart]

The USofA would probably also become Québec's largest trade partner.

If Québec seperates, they'll probably do like Mexico and sign as many free trade agreements as possible.

[Topaz]

Do you think ANY province would leave Canada and become its own?? I don't. Just look at what they would give up by doing so and what the effects to Canada and the US if Quebec did. For one thing Quebec did, they would own alot of the St. Lawrence seaway and would probably charge big bucks to enter it!! The people would lose their Canada pensions etc. and I don't think they would want that. A lot of our military is based in Quebec, so who would get them??? Our nations capital is too close to Quebec would we move it???? What about all the corporations in Quebec and then leave. I think this idea would cost both Canada and Quebec and I just can't see it happening. Perhaps the separatist should move to the island of IIe d'Anticosti in the St. Lawrence seaway and became subject under France.

[madmax]

Do you think ANY province would leave Canada and become its own?? I don't. Just look at what they would give up by doing so and what the effects to Canada and the US if Quebec did. For one thing Quebec did, they would own alot of the St. Lawrence seaway and would probably charge big bucks to enter it!! The people would lose their Canada pensions etc. and I don't think they would want that. A lot of our military is based in Quebec, so who would get them??? Our nations capital is too close to Quebec would we move it???? What about all the corporations in Quebec and then leave. I think this idea would cost both Canada and Quebec and I just can't see it happening. Perhaps the separatist should move to the island of IIe d'Anticosti in the St. Lawrence seaway and became subject under France.

What if Ontario Separated from the rest of Canada?

[geoffrey]

What if Ontario Separated from the rest of Canada?

I wish. That'd be the big realisation that Canada doesn't and will not ever work. If Alberta and Quebec went, Canada would have to take a long hard look at itself and really wonder if it's possible. In my opinion, it's not.

Anyways, Ontario believes they are Canada, so they can't really seperate from themselves.

[Leafless]

They have many resources such as timber, mines, and energy that is vital to our Canadian economy. If they leave our country, we are pretty much finished if we don't survive by trading with their beautful nation. So, do you think this means that Quebec will replace the US as our largest trading partner?

Quebec is a nice province when it isn't snowing.

Outside of that they have lots of trees and federal financed James Bay Hydro and the Space Agency, Bombardier and many other federally financed initiatives.

Their manufacturing sector is on a downhill slide. If they ever separate they will leave with very little including, probably, a lot less land area.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive...7/27/c2151.html

I don't think Quebec will be going anywhere and if they cosy up to the U.S. for business investment means here come the English, something Quebec won't particularly want to see happen.

On the other hand I hope they will go and soon find out they are at the total mercy of the U.S. and won't be long before they are totally engulfed into the U.S. economy and end up another Louisiana.

And the same goes for B.C.

Rich to-day and poor tomorrow, if they ever separate.

[madmax]

I wish. That'd be the big realisation that Canada doesn't and will not ever work. If Alberta and Quebec went, Canada would have to take a long hard look at itself and really wonder if it's possible. In my opinion, it's not.

Anyways, Ontario believes they are Canada, so they can't really seperate from themselves.

If Ontario can't separate from itself, then should Quebec or Alberta ever leave, would there be " the NEW DOLLAR of ONTARIO" and would it have a Separate Exchange rate from Alberta.

Ontario .70US

Alberta 1.155US

Quebec ?????

Have some fun where would the other Provinces be.....

[geoffrey]

If Ontario can't separate from itself, then should Quebec or Alberta ever leave, would there be " the NEW DOLLAR of ONTARIO" and would it have a Separate Exchange rate from Alberta.

That's a silly tactic used by the Federalists. The Europeans have no issue using the same currency at the same rates everywhere in the EU. France and Germany have stronger economies than Spain and Portugal, but it's all the same rate. There is no reason why we can't apply the same principle in Canada between politically seperated provinces.

[Wilber]

If Ontario can't separate from itself, then should Quebec or Alberta ever leave, would there be " the NEW DOLLAR of ONTARIO" and would it have a Separate Exchange rate from Alberta.

That's a silly tactic used by the Federalists. The Europeans have no issue using the same currency at the same rates everywhere in the EU. France and Germany have stronger economies than Spain and Portugal, but it's all the same rate. There is no reason why we can't apply the same principle in Canada between politically seperated provinces.

If say the West (Alta, BC) were to be separate from other provinces, I wonder what advantage we would see in a common currency with those provinces when the US is our biggest trading partner. The same probably applies to Ontario and other provinces.

[geoffrey]

If say the West (Alta, BC) were to be separate from other provinces, I wonder what advantage we would see in a common currency with those provinces when the US is our biggest trading partner. The same probably applies to Ontario and other provinces.

We would see our dollar moderated by poor performance in the East. Alberta and BC can survive alot better than Ontario on a high dollar, but it's definitely not to our advantage. Ontario and the East bring our dollar's value down, so we never have to face the reality of how unbalanced BC/Alberta trade would be with the US.

A pure petro-dollar (Alberta) would be unsustainably high on the world markets. Imports would be dirt cheap and travelling to Europe would be like Mexico (ok, an exaggeration), but exporting oil at that ratio isn't going to work forever.

So we need people to bring our dollar down. The rest of Canada will do fine in that capacity.

[madmax]

If Ontario can't separate from itself, then should Quebec or Alberta ever leave, would there be " the NEW DOLLAR of ONTARIO" and would it have a Separate Exchange rate from Alberta.

That's a silly tactic used by the Federalists. The Europeans have no issue using the same currency at the same rates everywhere in the EU. France and Germany have stronger economies than Spain and Portugal, but it's all the same rate. There is no reason why we can't apply the same principle in Canada between politically seperated provinces.

The Europeans are trying to Unify and have chosen a value of currency to compete against the US dollar.

Canada has no such ability and perhaps there are those that would argue the Provinces should have different exchange rates.

I wasn't suggesting the breakup of Canada or the threat of a different dollar as a means to ensure federalism.

I was putting it out there for people to play with, the idea of having a separate dollar for the Provinces, should the separtists ever prevail

[geoffrey]

I really don't think so madmax, I think a common currency amongst independant provinces would be the most appropriate way to go. Individual currencies would be far to volatile based on Canada's very regional economies.

[Wilber]

But if your major market is to the south a common currency there might make more sense. Fluctuations in the Canadian and US dollar is a major problem for companies which trade across the border.

[newbie]

Do you think ANY province would leave Canada and become its own?? I don't. Just look at what they would give up by doing so and what the effects to Canada and the US if Quebec did. For one thing Quebec did, they would own alot of the St. Lawrence seaway and would probably charge big bucks to enter it!! The people would lose their Canada pensions etc. and I don't think they would want that. A lot of our military is based in Quebec, so who would get them??? Our nations capital is too close to Quebec would we move it???? What about all the corporations in Quebec and then leave. I think this idea would cost both Canada and Quebec and I just can't see it happening. Perhaps the separatist should move to the island of IIe d'Anticosti in the St. Lawrence seaway and became subject under France.

Not to mention the Native treaty claims that would come flooding in.

[geoffrey]

Not to mention the Native treaty claims that would come flooding in.

The advantage is that the newly created independant provinces could say "tough shit" and that'd be the end of the Indian issue.

[Michael Bluth]

But if your major market is to the south a common currency there might make more sense. Fluctuations in the Canadian and US dollar is a major problem for companies which trade across the border.

For trade purposes Canada adopting the US dollar, or a North American dollar would be make sense.

However, it will NEVER happen.

The U.S. would never consider any mechanism in which they had anything less than absolute control over monetary policy.

Would Canadians ever go for abandoning the Canadian dollar with no control at all over the new currency?

[August1991]

Most days, my largest trading partner is a local Provigo.

"Canada" doesn't trade with the "US". Individuals in Canada trade with other individuals in America. Countries don't trade - people do. Canada's Balance of Payments are not controlled by a Polynewbie magician. Canada's trade statistics are the year-end result of millions of people making millions of decisions.

Even Leo Tolstoy understood that distinction.