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[kuzadd]

B'TSelem

BTW - while this Micky show is probably pretty questionable - it is no different to air this and tout is as the norm as it would be to out Fallwell or Robertson - or goodness be - Phelps! as the norm of the American style Christiandom.

Two wrongs don't make a right - but blindly judging all by the worst of their lot is a big mistake.

Also, calling folk Israel haters and anti-semites really does NO justice to anything you argue for. It's old and worn out - try talking FACTS instead.

yes, but , name calling is the bastion of the weak.

so I like to see , the levels, some posters will stoop to as it makes the picture of them, that much more clearer.

That they can't use reason, or rational, facts or logic, that they stoop to manipulative rhetoric and name calling, or propoganda, ooops, the very thing they are decrying.

[sharkman]

and Dr Dobson preaches racism towards Muslim's

so , what's good for one is good for another.

face it or you simply being a hypocrite!

If it's ok, for the west then it's ok for ME.

btw: Walt Disney was rumoured to be an anti-semite.

And yet another case of blame shifting. I notice you couldn't find any evidence to show Disney promoted hatred, so you just provide a rumor, as if slander will help prove your point. Good one.

Okay, provide a link where Dobson preaches hatred towards Muslims. You seem to type whatever comes into your head, but you need to provide facts or your thoughts are of no value.

[buffycat]

Sharkman - do you consider B'TSelem not to be authoritative?

Also, I was commenting on the rabid hatred present for anything Palestinian -which was voiced loud and clear here in this thread! Have you been following the conversation? Or do you need a time out? To perhaps reconsider?

Or - do you just not like facts?

Hate exists on both sides sharkman, as your own vitriolic posts demonstrate.

[buffycat]

Speaking of blame shifting:

The only blame I see being shifted anywhere is the blame OFF Israel and her actions ONTO everyone else - the eternal victim whines again!

Ugh.

What is really astounding is that while any show which does what this Memri translation says it does is certainly dispicable - but is it any more disgusting than the hate so evident here for muslims? What do YOU teach your kids?

[M.Dancer]

Speaking of blame shifting:

The only blame I see being shifted anywhere is the blame OFF Israel and her actions ONTO everyone else - the eternal victim whines again!

Ugh.

What is really astounding is that while any show which does what this Memri translation says it does is certainly dispicable - but is it any more disgusting than the hate so evident here for muslims? What do YOU teach your kids?

Oh...I get it. It Israel's fault that the Arabs teach terrorism......

[sharkman]

Sharkman - do you consider B'TSelem not to be authoritative?

Also, I was commenting on the rabid hatred present for anything Palestinian -which was voiced loud and clear here in this thread! Have you been following the conversation? Or do you need a time out? To perhaps reconsider?

Or - do you just not like facts?

Hate exists on both sides sharkman, as your own vitriolic posts demonstrate.

What exists on both sides is neither here nor there, as it is just your opinion. The fact that there is a tv show that promotes hatred towards Israel doesn't seem to bother some. If the tv show was Israeli and promoting tatred towards Arabs, you would be screaming bloody murder and I would be right there with you. You, however give Palestinians a free pass for their hatred again and again defending their hateful actions. So when you speak of hatred, those of us who are familar with your proclivities smirk.

[stignasty]

It is not the same thing at all, just more of you lefties shifting the blame as if it justifies a show that teaches racism toward Jews. BTW Disney never taught hatred.

I'm a lefty now? Just the other day I was George W. Bush's biggest fan.

[sharkman]

Speaking of blame shifting:

The only blame I see being shifted anywhere is the blame OFF Israel and her actions ONTO everyone else - the eternal victim whines again!

Ugh.

What is really astounding is that while any show which does what this Memri translation says it does is certainly dispicable - but is it any more disgusting than the hate so evident here for muslims? What do YOU teach your kids?

There is no hatred here coming from me, just your inane accusations which shift blame. Look at your above post. You are saying Israel deserves blame when the topic is a TV show that hates Israel. Israel is not to blame for this show! You are to blame, however for your silly preoccupation with Israel.

[M.Dancer]

I'm a lefty now? Just the other day I was George W. Bush's biggest fan.

He's a uniter, not a room divider

[buffycat]

Holy Hannah Batman you guys are really into the spin and take out of context approach eh?

I made two comments on different ideas on this thread.

1. The damn mouse

2. Targetting of children - to which I responded that BOTH sides did it.

It's truly amazing the way you guys spin, perhaps you are sons of Rapunzel?

[Rue]

Getting your children to sign bombs for Lebanese children is much better. I see so many "moderates" speaking out against that too.

Is there any evidence of this practice?

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=israel...le+Search&meta="

If you are going to jump on the inter-net then research it will you?

Are you aware the children were writing in English and not Hebrew? Are you aware there were twelve photographers all "standing around" to take these shots?

Are you aware the the comments written in English not Hebrew were in fact NOT addressed to Lebanese children or civilians but in fact Nasrallah, the Lebanese leader of Hezbollah?

Are you aware that these children had been in bom shelters for five days straight?

How do you think those twelve photographers got there and why do you think the comments were written in English and not Hebew?

Are you aware the photographers said to these children "your cousins in America will see you?" to get them to then write on these missiles?

How do you think it is these children even got near the shells? Do you see anyone from the IDF around?

Think before you jump to conclusions.

Think before you demonize these children.

They were manipulated by the press. If you were a kid stuck in a bom shelter five days, you would have done the same thing with little prodding.

That is the point. Any child placed in a conflict can be exploited. Now tell me, do you equate this photo op with using children as bombs? Does ISrael send children with bombs into Lebanon? Does it use children as terrorist agents?

Um uh um. But you have your photo op.

[sharkman]

Holy Hannah Batman you guys are really into the spin and take out of context approach eh?

I made two comments on different ideas on this thread.

1. The damn mouse

2. Targetting of children - to which I responded that BOTH sides did it.

It's truly amazing the way you guys spin, perhaps you are sons of Rapunzel?

Ah yes, the mantra of the left, 'both sides do it.' But when it comes down to providing actual facts, the blame shifting starts.

Please provide a link that shows Israeli children are being taught hatred and racism. You can't. None exist because it doesn't happen. Therefore it doesn't compare with the likes of this tv show in question.

[scribblet]

So far still no proof that Israel deliberately targets children nor that it is State policy.

Strange and ridiculous how Hamas supporters manage to get quite defensive about Hamas tactics and deflect all criticism of state policy and terrorism by pointing out an evangelical video game or try to deflect it by blaming it all on Israel.

Just what is Israel supposed to do against Hamaz or Hezbollah daily rocket attacks - maybe they should just stage a sit-down protests along the borders, perhaps and sing Hava Nagila or what.

Supporting Palestinian state terrorism and genocidal intent will will only increase their hope and ability to achieve their longstanding goal of obliterating Israel.

[buffycat]

Good grief Scribbles, with your cut and pastes one would think you'd be a pro at using a search engine:

IDF used Palestinian girl as human shield in Nablus

Just one of the recent ones where children are targeted and used.

Go to it now.

There is terror on both sides, yet one is a recognized Occupier and the others simply refugees in their own lands. Much of this would have all been solved had Israel retreated and given up the West Bank, Gaza, Sheeba Farms and the Golan. Just go back to the defacto 67 borders and learn to live with your neighbours.

She has not done this. Too bad for her, too bad for the Israelis - many of whom do NOT agree with the current status of the illegal Settlements. Oh and if thats where you want to see indoctornation which is on par with extremist islamic propoganda, the Settlements are the place. Does the existance of one make the other acceptable?

Of course not. Yet that is what you would have us all believe.

[sharkman]

Buffy, so you think this is on par with producing a children's show that teaches racism and hatred and is beamed to the entire Arab world?

It's an islolated unproven case which, if it proves to be true, does not compare to the above or to the strapping on of bomb belts to children.

[kuzadd]

So far still no proof that Israel deliberately targets children nor that it is State policy.

Strange and ridiculous how Hamas supporters manage to get quite defensive about Hamas tactics and deflect all criticism of state policy and terrorism by pointing out an evangelical video game or try to deflect it by blaming it all on Israel.

Just what is Israel supposed to do against Hamaz or Hezbollah daily rocket attacks - maybe they should just stage a sit-down protests along the borders, perhaps and sing Hava Nagila or what.

Supporting Palestinian state terrorism and genocidal intent will will only increase their hope and ability to achieve their longstanding goal of obliterating Israel.

LOL, as if israel would make killing kids "state policy" .

what a bogus claim.

it's the actions, that speak for themselves.

[BC_chick]

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=israel...le+Search&meta=

How about a real source from media that regular people read.

From one of the sources you googled

CARD

I googled so the people would be free to choose their own source. They are after all a PICTURES we're talking about, they speak for themselves.

[BC_chick]

What is really astounding is that while any show which does what this Memri translation says it does is certainly dispicable - but is it any more disgusting than the hate so evident here for muslims? What do YOU teach your kids?

Exactly my point. Anonymous posters seem to have no problem killing innocents in the name of "collateral damage," yet they are filled with self-righteous indignation about others showing the same feelings toward them. You mean to tell me their own children aren't going to grow up with the same disregard for human life as them?

I'd go as far as saying their approach is worse than their Middle-Eastern counterparts. I have more respect for the person who tells me to my face they don't like "my kind" than the person who smiles in my face, goes home to their computer and anonymously talks about having no problem seeing my kin getting killed.

[Wilber]

I googled so the people would be free to choose their own source. They are after all a PICTURES we're talking about, they speak for themselves.

I'll ask again. Who's children are they? Who's bombs are they? Who put them up to it? You have no idea. All they are are pictures and they don't answer any of those questions. CARD thought the source was questionable enough to discontinue discussion of them. You question nothing, you just see what you want to see.

[sharkman]

I googled so the people would be free to choose their own source. They are after all a PICTURES we're talking about, they speak for themselves.

I'll ask again. Who's children are they? Who's bombs are they? Who put them up to it? You have no idea. All they are are pictures and they don't answer any of those questions. CARD thought the source was questionable enough to discontinue discussion of them. You question nothing, you just see what you want to see.

Exactly. The writing the children were doing was in ENGLISH NOT HEBREW. I read a left wing blog on those pictures and not one single person noticed.

[BC_chick]

I'll ask again. Who's children are they? Who's bombs are they? Who put them up to it? You have no idea. All they are are pictures and they don't answer any of those questions. CARD thought the source was questionable enough to discontinue discussion of them. You question nothing, you just see what you want to see.

It's common knowledge that they are Israeli children that's why there has been so many plausible explanations put forth. On this board scriblett said they were coerced, in Jewish media I've read that they had come out of the bomb-shelter and were not thinking straight. This is the first time though I've heard anyone outright denying they may even be Israeli. Reminds me of the song "wasn't me" by Shaggy.

But she caught me on the counter (It wasn't me)

Saw me bangin' on the sofa (It wasn't me)

I even had her in the shower (It wasn't me)

She even caught me on camera (It wasn't me)

She saw the marks on my shoulder (It wasn't me)

Heard the words that I told her (It wasn't me)

Heard the scream get louder (It wasn't me)

She stayed until it was over

PS, so how do YOU know the Mickey Mouse was Palestinian? How do YOU know who translated it and gave you the correct translation?

You're really grasping and that can be turned right back around on you.

[scribblet]

as if israel would make killing kids "state policy" .

what a bogus claim.

it's the actions, that speak for themselves.

If children are hurt by Israelis it is accidental because the terrorist scum hide among the women and children. It is not by a systematic targeting unlike Hamas who's policy is that Israelis should be exterminated, and wiped off the map.

Hamas glorifies terror role-modeling for children, not to mention that the terrorist scum train their kids to become homicide bombers. hmmm minor little detail there we forgot.

[Wilber]

It's common knowledge that they are Israeli children that's why there has been so many plausible explanations put forth. On this board scriblett said they were coerced, in Jewish media I've read that they had come out of the bomb-shelter and were not thinking straight. This is the first time though I've heard anyone outright denying they may even be Israeli. Reminds me of the song "wasn't me" by Shaggy.

So now "common knowledge" is your source. I'm not denying anything, I'm just very suspicious, particularly when there are no names, dates, places or sources attached to these pictures which supposedly speak for themselves.

[GostHacked]

There are extreemists on all sides. ALL SIDES.

The difference is that these Christians aren't out killing people for God. Muslims are - all over the world - in every nation where there are a large number of Muslims.

I know of this one Christian who was given a mission by God himself. Problem with that is, he is currently the President of the United States. Mr. GWB.

Either way you people spin this. This Martyr Mouse is just deplorable. Insane, stupid, dangerous. Without getting into the history of Israel/Palestine, Muslims/Jews/Christians........ all of these religions have extreemist elements among them. Some are more subtle than others about it, but the overall message is the same. Hate.

Not one religion mentioned in this thread promotes unity among any number of religions. Jews want to be jews and are taght Judiasm. Muslims are taught the teachings of the Koran. Christians, the bible. WTF people. Really, WTFF.

I talk with a nice lass that serves me my coffee every day. We talked a bit about this today. She mentioned she was Muslim (origionally from Lebanon) and that she was shocked and appauled by the Mouse. She goes on to say that none of that shit is in the Koran. And when she was growing up, no one taught her hatetred towards other religions.

I am glad I do not align myself with any religon whatsoever. So far, it has served me well.

On the kids signing bombs thing, I recall this article, but I also recall it was about surviving family members of the attacks on Sept 11, 2001 in NYC. The surviving children wrote things on the bombs that were going to Iraq. I shall look for it later, but if my memory is correct, then the above is true.

I am not taught hate, I managed to learn it all on my own!!

[kuzadd]

as if israel would make killing kids "state policy" .

what a bogus claim.

it's the actions, that speak for themselves.

If children are hurt by Israelis it is accidental because the terrorist scum hide among the women and children. It is not by a systematic targeting unlike Hamas who's policy is that Israelis should be exterminated, and wiped off the map.

Hamas glorifies terror role-modeling for children, not to mention that the terrorist scum train their kids to become homicide bombers. hmmm minor little detail there we forgot.

Your still bogus claim that because Israel's "state policy" does not include targetting children, is still as bogus as when you made it, because it isn't stated doesn't mean it's not done.

prior to Abu Ghraib the US said they do not condone torture as policy, but, hell it was going on!

Children are hurt and killed intentionally , used as human shields all on a regular basis, by the occupying forces, it's just excused and covered up, over and over and over. Just like the US does.

Making your whole arguement as bogus still, as it was when you initiated it!