Figleaf Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 The Conservative Party of Canada should change its name. They may be right wing, but they are not conservative. Conservative as used among professionals such as accountants and engineers means a beneficial type of cautious mindset -- underestimate your resources and overestimate your needs, don't make choices that cannot be undone, preserve wealth, etc. Conservative in a political sense means skepticism about the benefits of change and appreciation of the importance and value of existing institutions. Steve's party is not 'conservative' in either sense. For simple truth in advertising, they should call themselves something different. Quote
kimmy Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Nor are the Liberals particularly liberal. Nor are the New Democrats particularly new anymore. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
Figleaf Posted April 15, 2007 Author Report Posted April 15, 2007 I think you're on to something, kimmy ... just imagine if somehow a referendum forced honest names on them! The Liberals could be the Machiavellian Cyphers Party. Quote
BC_chick Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Nor are the Liberals particularly liberal. Will you guys make up your minds on that one. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Canuck E Stan Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 The Conservative Party of Canada should change its name. They may be right wing, but they are not conservative.Steve's party is not 'conservative' in either sense. For simple truth in advertising, they should call themselves something different. At the same time maybe we should work on Dion and seroiusly get this change going. Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
gc1765 Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Nor are the New Democrats particularly new anymore. haha, good one! Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Canadian Blue Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 I think Peter Stoffer was actually supporting a name change, it doesn't sound like that bad of an idea. Quote "Keep your government hands off my medicare!" - GOP activist
Remiel Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Why did they change from the CCF in the first place? Quote
madmax Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 Why did they change from the CCF in the first place? From Wiki The NDP was created in 1961 as a merger of the Co-operative Commonwealth Federation (CCF) and the Canadian Labour Congress (CLC). Tommy Douglas, the long-time CCF Premier of Saskatchewan, was elected the party's first leader. In 1960, before the NDP was officially registered, one candidate, Walter Pitman, won a by-election under the New Party banner. Quote
Topaz Posted April 15, 2007 Report Posted April 15, 2007 We could call them CONS-ALL!!! short for conservative alliance! they do a good job living up to the name! I hear Kenny got an ear full over the interest income, in his own riding. I wonder how Harper's riding would react to him. I wonder if he will ever get a pie in his face??? Quote
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 We could call them CONS-ALL!!! short for conservative alliance! they do a good job living up to the name! I hear Kenny got an ear full over the interest income, in his own riding. I wonder how Harper's riding would react to him. I wonder if he will ever get a pie in his face??? Initially they were were the Canadian Reform Alliance Party. Till they put the acronym together. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Michael Bluth Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 Initially they were were the Canadian Reform Alliance Party. Till they put the acronym together. Are you the first one who put that together? If the best you can come up with is making fun of the name of a now defunct party you are showing the imagination and creativity of most of Martin's Dion's advisors. Apply for a job. You never know. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
sharkman Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 We could call them CONS-ALL!!! short for conservative alliance! they do a good job living up to the name! I hear Kenny got an ear full over the interest income, in his own riding. I wonder how Harper's riding would react to him. I wonder if he will ever get a pie in his face??? Initially they were were the Canadian Reform Alliance Party. Till they put the acronym together. You're stealing Air Farce material. At least you could give a reference. Quote
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 Are you the first one who put that together? No, I believe it was the CPC themselves. If the best you can come up with is making fun of the name of a now defunct party you are showing the imagination and creativity of most of Martin's Dion's advisors. Apply for a job. You never know. Ooooh, good one. I much prefer the "creativity and imagination" it takes to make attack ads against your opponents when it's not election time.... kinda like the mindset you're showing here by attacking me for posting a common-knowledge fact about the CPC even when it's within proper context (did you even bother reading the title of the thread?) Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 You're stealing Air Farce material. At least you could give a reference. What?!?!? That's it. I'm getting in touch with the person who told me the joke and raising hell for not providing their source. PS, does it count as plagiarism if I didn't know it came from AirFarce? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Michael Bluth Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 Ooooh, good one. I much prefer the "creativity and imagination" it takes to make attack ads against your opponents when it's not election time.... kinda like the mindset you're showing here by attacking me for posting a common-knowledge fact about the CPC even when it's within proper context (did you even bother reading the title of the thread?) So the 'acronym' post wasn't an attack? The CCRAP thing is passé. The shrillness and whining is classic LPoC. You really should apply for a job with Martin's Dion's team of advisors. You'd fit right in. Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
kimmy Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 Great thread you've started here, Figleaf. Chock full of reasoned debate. -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ﾉ(° -°ﾉ)
stignasty Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 So the 'acronym' post wasn't an attack?The CCRAP thing is passé. The shrillness and whining is classic LPoC. You really should apply for a job with Martin's Dion's team of advisors. You'd fit right in. What's the going salary for a party hack to go online and spew party talking points? Quote "It may not be true, but it's legendary that if you're like all Americans, you know almost nothing except for your own country. Which makes you probably knowledgeable about one more country than most Canadians." - Stephen Harper
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 So the 'acronym' post wasn't an attack? No, it was a J-O-K-E. Truth be known, I've also repeated jokes about the LPC on these boards. I did not single any poster out and start telling them that they should become advisors for the CPC because they are so <fill in the blank> now did I? The CCRAP thing is passé. Maybe I was speaking out to the people who hadn't heard the joke. Are you implying that everything being said on these boards is being told for the first time? If so, you're sadly mistaken. The shrillness and whining is classic LPoC. You really should apply for a job with Martin's Dion's team of advisors. You'd fit right in. I doubt they'd be impressed with my CRAP acronym joke enough to bring me on board. But if you insist.... okay, I'll try. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 What's the going salary for a party hack to go online and spew party talking points? If I could make a buck doing this, I'd be in. But I highly doubt the LPC wants me to represent them. Dobbin could make a killing though. Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Michael Bluth Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 No, it was a J-O-K-E. Truth be known, I've also repeated jokes about the LPC on these boards. In the spirit of fairness and reducing partisanship on the board please share one of those LPoC jokes... Quote No one has ever defeated the Liberals with a divided conservative family. - Hon. Jim Prentice
BC_chick Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 No, it was a J-O-K-E. Truth be known, I've also repeated jokes about the LPC on these boards. In the spirit of fairness and reducing partisanship on the board please share one of those LPoC jokes... I posted this link a while back...... http://www.youthforvolpe.ca/ It was a big hit too if you must know even though that time too I got accused of posting things people had already seen. Go through my posts if you wish. You'll find that in spite of my obvious partisan leanings, I have not discriminated in my joke-telling. Only people who take themselves way too seriously can't laugh at their own beliefs. Can YOU laugh at a CPC joke? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
Figleaf Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Posted April 16, 2007 ... classic LPoC ... What is LPOC? Quote
Figleaf Posted April 16, 2007 Author Report Posted April 16, 2007 Great thread you've started here, Figleaf. Chock full of reasoned debate. Sometimes I seem to have a special way about me. Quote
jdobbin Posted April 16, 2007 Report Posted April 16, 2007 If I could make a buck doing this, I'd be in. But I highly doubt the LPC wants me to represent them. Dobbin could make a killing though. It could supplement my Writers Guild of Canada money. Still, I'd be pretty poor at it since I can't defend their environmental program for its slowness and ineffectiveness. Nor am I particularly enamoured by their rural strategy or the lack there of. I also disagree with regional development programs in lieu of a national infrastructure strategy. Quote
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