The World is Lining Up Aganst American Imperialism

[blackascoal]

On top of new China and Russia alliances, and alliances throughout the arab/Persian world being formed to repel American military and political imperialist intentions, many Latin American countries are now joining together to stand against us.

Many of these countries that are lining up against us are oil producing nations and are fast moving to the euro as a way of attacking our colonialist nature.

Instead of galvanizing the world against "terror", all the hapless Bush Administrtaion has managed to do is distance and isolate us. Even the British people want no part of our reign of terror.

Soon, the only "ally" we'll have left is Israel, a country devoid of resources, and one that consistently spies on us and marches to its own drummer.

an exerpt ...

Iran, Venezuela agree to thwart ‘US domination’

Associated Press

http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLa...3351871,00.html

Presidents Chavez, Ahmadinejad say ready to spend billions of dollars to finance projects in other countries to help thwart US domination. ‘We’ll underpin investments in countries whose governments are making efforts to liberate themselves from the (US) imperialist yoke,’ Venezuelan leader says

Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and Iran’s Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said they were ready to spend billions of dollars (euros) financing projects in other countries to help thwart US domination.

The anti-US Presidents whose efforts to extend their influence have alarmed Washington met Saturday in Venezuela’s capital, the first stop on Ahmadinejad’s tour of Latin America that will also see him visit newly elected leftist leaders in Nicaragua and Ecuador. The oil-rich nations had previously announced plans for a joint USD 2 billion fund to finance investments in Venezuela and Iran, but Chavez and Ahmadinejad said Saturday that the money would also be used for projects in friendly third countries. Ahmadinejad called it a “very important” decision that would help promote “Joint cooperation in third countries,” especially in Latin American and African countries.

After Venezuela, Ahmadinejad will visit newly elected leftist governments in Nicaragua and Ecuador that are also seeking to reduce Washington’s influence in the region. Bolivian President Evo Morales, another critic of US policy, said he plans to meet with Ahmadinejad while both are in Ecuador Monday.

Both countries are members of the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries, Chavez said Saturday that they had agreed to back an oil production cut in the cartel in order to stem a recent fall in crude prices.

Ahmadinejad is set to travel to Nicaragua to meet on Sunday with Ortega, a former Marxist guerrilla. On Monday, he travels to Ecuador for the inauguration of President-elect Rafael Correa, another outspoken critic of the administration of US President George W. Bush and Washington’s policies in Latin America.

[bush_cheney2004]

Not to worry, there are plenty of allies left to go around, including Canada, if only for the economics of it all. Nation states routinely act in self interest. NATO still sports a growing list of "allies"? Let's add Israel just for fun!

Illegals are still crashing the borders of Bush's evil and isolated America. I see another stowaway was crushed and frozen to death in an airliner's wheel well trying to get to the isolated promised land.

[blackascoal]

Not to worry, there are plenty of allies left to go around, including Canada, if only for the economics of it all. Nation states routinely act in self interest. NATO still sports a growing list of "allies"? Let's add Israel just for fun!

Illegals are still crashing the borders of Bush's evil and isolated America. I see another stowaway was crushed and frozen to death in an airliner's wheel well trying to get to the isolated promised land.

Adding Israel, a nation devoid of resources that consistently spies on the US and sells US weapons and technology to our enemies and marches to its own drummer .. would be "just for fun".

I don't spend a lot of time arguing with right-wingers who haven't gotten anything right for at least 6 years. Feel free to ignore the isolation that America is now faced with and the rising allainces against us if you choose. Doesn't matter.

[scribblet]

Gee, I kinda feel the same way about left wingers who havn't gotten anything right for over 50 years.

[Canadian Blue]

Adding Israel, a nation devoid of resources that consistently spies on the US and sells US weapons and technology to our enemies and marches to its own drummer .. would be "just for fun".

What are you talking about.

I don't spend a lot of time arguing with right-wingers who haven't gotten anything right for at least 6 years. Feel free to ignore the isolation that America is now faced with and the rising allainces against us if you choose. Doesn't matter.

I think the vast majority of NATO members will always support America over China, Russia, Iran, and Venezuela.

[blackascoal]

Gee, I kinda feel the same way about left wingers who havn't gotten anything right for over 50 years.

WOW .. that is quite amazing .. given the 2006 election and the sinking of the right-wing ship and the declining number of republicans and the republican shift to the left and the loss and stature of the US since Bush has been in office .. and a host of all-manner of other really obvious shit.

But feel free to think any damn thing you want about the left.

[August1991]

On top of new China and Russia alliances, and alliances throughout the arab/Persian world being formed to repel American military and political imperialist intentions, many Latin American countries are now joining together to stand against us.

Blackascoal when you use "us" in the sentence above, is that part of the American imperialism?

Indeed, while I'm on the topic, can you please define what you mean by "imperialism"?

[blackascoal]

Adding Israel, a nation devoid of resources that consistently spies on the US and sells US weapons and technology to our enemies and marches to its own drummer .. would be "just for fun".

What are you talking about.

I don't spend a lot of time arguing with right-wingers who haven't gotten anything right for at least 6 years. Feel free to ignore the isolation that America is now faced with and the rising allainces against us if you choose. Doesn't matter.

I think the vast majority of NATO members will always support America over China, Russia, Iran, and Venezuela.

Sure .. and that is just so damn obvious in the over-whelming support for America in Iraq .. who will soon be left fighting alone there.

By the way, you forgot to add IRAQ to the list which is now, thanks to the Idiot-in-Chief, is more closely aligned with IRAN than the US.

[blackascoal]

On top of new China and Russia alliances, and alliances throughout the arab/Persian world being formed to repel American military and political imperialist intentions, many Latin American countries are now joining together to stand against us.

Blackascoal when you use "us" in the sentence above, is that part of the American imperialism?

Indeed, while I'm on the topic, can you please define what you mean by "imperialism"?

"Us" implies that I am an American.

"Imperialism" is the US penchant for overthrow of even democratically elected leaders, installing brutal dictators when it fits our purposes, war as a business, and a belief that we can militarily take whatever we want.

[Canadian Blue]

So Saddam Hussein was a man of the people, who was unfairly thrown over by the American's.

Sure .. and that is just so damn obvious in the over-whelming support for America in Iraq .. who will soon be left fighting alone there.

No, however any idiot who think's that Russia, China, Venezuela, and Iran, are more righteous than the US are complete fool's. All one has to do is look at Tibet and Checnya.

On top of new China and Russia alliances, and alliances throughout the arab/Persian world being formed to repel American military and political imperialist intentions, many Latin American countries are now joining together to stand against us.

Many of these countries that are lining up against us are oil producing nations and are fast moving to the euro as a way of attacking our colonialist nature.

Instead of galvanizing the world against "terror", all the hapless Bush Administrtaion has managed to do is distance and isolate us. Even the British people want no part of our reign of terror.

Soon, the only "ally" we'll have left is Israel, a country devoid of resources, and one that consistently spies on us and marches to its own drummer.

I don't know, I think the world would rather ally with Israel, than a country which denies the holocaust, and has dream's of wiping out the Jews.

[blackascoal]

So Saddam Hussein was a man of the people, who was unfairly thrown over by the American's.

Sure .. and that is just so damn obvious in the over-whelming support for America in Iraq .. who will soon be left fighting alone there.

No, however any idiot who think's that Russia, China, Venezuela, and Iran, are more righteous than the US are complete fool's. All one has to do is look at Tibet and Checnya.

On top of new China and Russia alliances, and alliances throughout the arab/Persian world being formed to repel American military and political imperialist intentions, many Latin American countries are now joining together to stand against us.

Many of these countries that are lining up against us are oil producing nations and are fast moving to the euro as a way of attacking our colonialist nature.

Instead of galvanizing the world against "terror", all the hapless Bush Administrtaion has managed to do is distance and isolate us. Even the British people want no part of our reign of terror.

Soon, the only "ally" we'll have left is Israel, a country devoid of resources, and one that consistently spies on us and marches to its own drummer.

I don't know, I think the world would rather ally with Israel, than a country which denies the holocaust, and has dream's of wiping out the Jews.

You can find "idiots" at your parents house. I have not resorted to calling you names.

Post where I said the either Russia or China are "more righteous" than the US. I see you're still incapable of debating what is actually said.

And you can think whatever you want about Israel .. but it doesn't have oil or for that matter, much of anything else other nations need.

Your thought of the worlds love of Israel is so apparent in the tough as nails sanctions on Iran .. which do not exist. It does appear .. at least from the really real world .. that Israel's power and influence in the world doesn't amount to much.

[blackascoal]

Many of these countries that are lining up against us are oil producing nations and are fast moving to the euro as a way of attacking our colonialist nature.

Case in point ...

excerpt ...

Euro displaces dollar in bond markets

By David Oakley and Gillian Tett in London

Published: January 14 2007

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/572b41a6-a414-11db...00779e2340.html

The euro has displaced the US dollar as the world’s pre-eminent currency in international bond markets, having outstripped the dollar-denominated market for the second year in a row.

The data consolidate news last month that the value of euro notes in circulation had overtaken the dollar for the first time. Outstanding debt issued in the euro was worth the equivalent of $4,836bn at the end of 2006 compared with $3,892bn for the dollar, according to International Capital Market Association data.

Outstanding euro-denominated debt accounts for 45 per cent of the global market, compared with 37 per cent for the dollar. New issuance last year accounted for 49 per cent of the global total.

That represents a startling turnabout from the pattern seen in recent decades, when the US bond market dwarfed its European rival: as recently as 2002, outstanding euro-denominated issuance represented just 27 per cent of the global pie, compared with 51 per cent for the dollar.

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It's from the Financial Times / US and Canada edition.

Does that count as a "credible source"?

[sharkman]

So a couple of thug nations throw a hissy fit about the U.S., and blackascoal thinks this means the whole world is lining up against the U.S.? Blacky, you are out of touch with reality. It sounds like you hate your nation. Perhaps you should try Iran.

The Euro's advances are not remotely similar to Chavez or Iran agreeing to hate the U.S. It's international commerce. The Euro has more weight behind it now because most of Europe is using it. If the U.S. could get North America to do a similar thing as the European Union, North America would be back on top.

[bush_cheney2004]

WOW .. that is quite amazing .. given the 2006 election and the sinking of the right-wing ship and the declining number of republicans and the republican shift to the left and the loss and stature of the US since Bush has been in office .. and a host of all-manner of other really obvious shit.

Using such logic, the same shift happened in 2002, or 1994, or (name the mid-term election of your choice)...shift...shift...shift....and still shifting over time...ebb and flow. One helluva shift in 1980 as I recall.

[scribblet]

I don't know, I think the world would rather ally with Israel, than a country which denies the holocaust, and has dream's of wiping out the Jews.

Exactly; why anyone would ally themselves with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad a racist nut case if there was one

Adding to this dangerous clash of civilizations is the need by despots to have an enemy in order to escape accountability for failing to improve their own societies. This is true not only of despots in other lands (today and in the past), but demagogues in our own. - Cal Thomas

[jbg]

Not to worry, there are plenty of allies left to go around, including Canada, if only for the economics of it all. Nation states routinely act in self interest. NATO still sports a growing list of "allies"? Let's add Israel just for fun!

Illegals are still crashing the borders of Bush's evil and isolated America. I see another stowaway was crushed and frozen to death in an airliner's wheel well trying to get to the isolated promised land.

You haven't seen or heard of the Americans defecting to Iran and Venezuela? Or the Canadians defecting to the Peoples Republic of China?

[jbg]

For educated discussion on the Iran-Venenzuela cavalcade of madmen, go here. (link)

[August1991]

"Us" implies that I am an American.

You are aware that this is a Canadian forum? I frankly find your presumption self-centred and arrogant but not imperialistic.

"Imperialism" is the US penchant for overthrow of even democratically elected leaders, installing brutal dictators when it fits our purposes, war as a business, and a belief that we can militarily take whatever we want.

What is the US "taking militarily"?

To my knowledge, the US does not exact tribute from colonies.

[jbg]

To my knowledge, the US does not exact tribute from colonies.

Bingo.

[Guthrie]

Tribute? like oil? like the right of way to build pipelines? - or are you suggesting that tribute has to be jewel encrusted statues of birds?

[Canadian Blue]

How much money has been poured into government coffers from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

None...

[PolyNewbie]

CanadianBlue:How much money has been poured into government coffers from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

None...

This has been on TV, Cheney and others have made enourmous profits from these wars, the oil business will make enourmous profit from the wars and the banks will make much more than either of these two put togather (by math not what by mainstream is telling us). So who do you want to elect next time, the Rockefeller Democrats or the Rockefeller Republicans ?

[Guthrie]

How much money has been poured into government coffers from the war in Iraq and Afghanistan?

None...

like all tribute, it goes in the pockets of those in power- how much have the buschistas pocketed from this war?

hundreds of billions!

[jbg]

This has been on TV, Cheney and others have made enourmous profits from these wars, the oil business will make enourmous profit from the wars and the banks will make much more than either of these two put togather (by math not what by mainstream is telling us). So who do you want to elect next time, the Rockefeller Democrats or the Rockefeller Republicans ?

Congratulations. One of those sentences has correct grammer and syntax. Oops, no, it's the question at the end. Could you take some lessons either in Canadian or in English?

[Wilber]

Iran, Venezuela agree to thwart ‘US domination’

Agree to thwart US domination my ass, more like filling their own pockets. All they have is oil, without its revenues they are nothing.