betsy Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish! Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! And this may signal a big rip on what is being touted as a "united" Liberals. Who is behind this smear campaign? I hope Rae fights back unrelentingly...and hopefully the Conservatives will get to the bottom of this! Quote
M.Dancer Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish!Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! And this may signal a big rip on what is being touted as a "united" Liberals. Who is behind this smear campaign? I hope Rae fights back unrelentingly...and hopefully the Conservatives will get to the bottom of this! If it is not true, it proves that the conservatives have an unsophisticated smear machine...sort of like the ham fisted attempt to smear Dion by flagging that, although he is Canadian Born and a member of the Privy Council, that he also hold French citizenship and therefore his loyalty is in question. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Michael Hardner Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! How does that prove anything ? The conservatives were already cited as interfering with the campaign in order to get Rae out of the picture... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
normanchateau Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 I spoke to a Conservative Party supporter who was an observer at the Liberal election and she tells a somewhat different story. This is second-hand information so I don't know how accurate it is. Apparently a couple of Middle Eastern immigrants who were Liberal delegates approached a number of other delegates to condemn Bob Rae as being too pro-Israel. Their "evidence" was that Bob Rae's wife was Jewish and he had other Jewish connections. The person I spoke to could not confirm that the people actually were delegates or merely intruders. Quote
scribblet Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish! Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! And this may signal a big rip on what is being touted as a "united" Liberals. Who is behind this smear campaign? I hope Rae fights back unrelentingly...and hopefully the Conservatives will get to the bottom of this! If it is not true, it proves that the conservatives have an unsophisticated smear machine...sort of like the ham fisted attempt to smear Dion by flagging that, although he is Canadian Born and a member of the Privy Council, that he also hold French citizenship and therefore his loyalty is in question. It proves no such thing, you don't know who was behind this, more likely it was Liberal delegates who wanted a different leader. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
gerryhatrick Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! Given your next comment: Who is behind this smear campaign? You're appearing quite dishonest in making the first. Besides which, it's a generalized third-party insult. It deserves to be reported assuch, which I have done so. I hope in future betsy you will keep your comments out of the gutter as this one was. Quote Conservative Party of Canada taking image advice from US Republican pollster: http://allpoliticsnow.com
Figleaf Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish!Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! On what news today? "If true" is right. Quote
betsy Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish! Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! On what news today? "If true" is right. CTV Newsnet this morning. I'll tune in on MDuffy this afternoon. Maybe there'll be more. Quote
scribblet Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 It was a Liberal delegate who approached Arlene Rae, http://ottawasun.com/News/National/2006/12...pf-2686071.html December 8, 2006 Raes smeared in race Wife anti-Semitic target By CP Bob Rae was the target of anti-Semitic attacks during the Liberal leadership contest, motivated at least in part by the fact that his wife is Jewish. Sources close to Rae say that his wife, Arlene Perly Rae, was approached during last weekend's convention by a delegate who didn't realize she was the candidate's wife. The delegate told her not to vote for Rae "because his wife is Jewish." Perly Rae stonily informed the delegate that she was the wife in question. The delegate beat a hasty retreat. The incident might have been shrugged off if it had been an isolated event. But Rae team insiders contend it was part of a larger pattern of anti-Semitic smears on Rae, who finished third. A flyer was circulated electronically among convention delegates denouncing Rae for having once delivered a speech to the Jewish National Fund, a group the flyer said was complicit in "war crimes and ethnic cleansing." "Rae's wife is a vice-president of the CJC (Canadian Jewish Congress), a lobby group which supports Israeli apartheid," said the flyer in bold letters superimposed over a close-up of Rae's face. The Canadian Jewish Congress has condemned the flyer and blamed Khaled Mouammar, president of the Canadian Arab Federation for circulating it. The federation has, in turn, accused the CJC of making "a pitiful attempt to discredit" it and has denied producing or distributing the flyer.] Nevertheless, in a release yesterday, the federation supported the content of the flyer. "CAF believes that Canadians have the right to know the factual information provided" in the flyer, the federation said....... Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
betsy Posted December 8, 2006 Author Report Posted December 8, 2006 If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! How does that prove anything ? The conservatives were already cited as interfering with the campaign in order to get Rae out of the picture... But that was the first thing that came to my mind...the issue of anti-semitism. How could I not think but that, thinking back to the incidents that had transpired with the recent Lebanon war? - The seeming one-sided view of most Liberal Leadership contenders - The Liberal MP who went to Lebanon - Nobody among them seemed to have stood behind and applauded harper for the way he stood up at the Francophonie and insisted that Israeli casualties be included in the list. - Ignatieff's war crimes accusation of Isreal...which he later recanted, and had planned to visit Israel to get a better understanding - meaning he threw those accusations irresponsibly just like a knee jerk reaction against Israel. - Harper's comment about the whole thing. He got that impression of the Liberals. I got that same impression. I share the same sentiment and opinion...because that's how I perceive it. Who gave those impressions? The Liberals. With how they had handled and reacted to the Lebanon war. And now, this. Quote
normanchateau Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 It was a Liberal delegate who approached Arlene Rae, http://ottawasun.com/News/National/2006/12...pf-2686071.html December 8, 2006 Raes smeared in race Wife anti-Semitic target By CP Bob Rae was the target of anti-Semitic attacks during the Liberal leadership contest, motivated at least in part by the fact that his wife is Jewish. Sources close to Rae say that his wife, Arlene Perly Rae, was approached during last weekend's convention by a delegate who didn't realize she was the candidate's wife. The delegate told her not to vote for Rae "because his wife is Jewish." Perly Rae stonily informed the delegate that she was the wife in question. The delegate beat a hasty retreat. The incident might have been shrugged off if it had been an isolated event. But Rae team insiders contend it was part of a larger pattern of anti-Semitic smears on Rae, who finished third. A flyer was circulated electronically among convention delegates denouncing Rae for having once delivered a speech to the Jewish National Fund, a group the flyer said was complicit in "war crimes and ethnic cleansing." "Rae's wife is a vice-president of the CJC (Canadian Jewish Congress), a lobby group which supports Israeli apartheid," said the flyer in bold letters superimposed over a close-up of Rae's face. The Canadian Jewish Congress has condemned the flyer and blamed Khaled Mouammar, president of the Canadian Arab Federation for circulating it. The federation has, in turn, accused the CJC of making "a pitiful attempt to discredit" it and has denied producing or distributing the flyer.] Nevertheless, in a release yesterday, the federation supported the content of the flyer. "CAF believes that Canadians have the right to know the factual information provided" in the flyer, the federation said....... Sounds like there was an anti-Semitic smear campaign but I have yet to see the evidence that Liberals were involved. An electronic flyer from the Canadian Arab Federation or whoever has yet to be linked to its source. And what delegate approached Rae's wife and how do we know that the person was actually a delegate? Quote
kimmy Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Given the high-profile controversy within the Liberal Party earlier this year surrounding the issue of Israel, why is it surprising that it would emerge as a wedge issue at a hotly contested leadership vote? -k Quote (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ Friendly forum facilitator! ┬──┬◡ノ(° -°ノ)
Shakeyhands Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Yes, because we didn't give Israel carte blanche to blow the living crap out of Lebanaon, well we must all be anti semites... oh.. and we did evacuate all those Arabs as welll, we must be I tell ya!!! Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
White Doors Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 It was a Liberal delegate who approached Arlene Rae, http://ottawasun.com/News/National/2006/12...pf-2686071.html December 8, 2006 Raes smeared in race Wife anti-Semitic target By CP Bob Rae was the target of anti-Semitic attacks during the Liberal leadership contest, motivated at least in part by the fact that his wife is Jewish. Sources close to Rae say that his wife, Arlene Perly Rae, was approached during last weekend's convention by a delegate who didn't realize she was the candidate's wife. The delegate told her not to vote for Rae "because his wife is Jewish." Perly Rae stonily informed the delegate that she was the wife in question. The delegate beat a hasty retreat. The incident might have been shrugged off if it had been an isolated event. But Rae team insiders contend it was part of a larger pattern of anti-Semitic smears on Rae, who finished third. A flyer was circulated electronically among convention delegates denouncing Rae for having once delivered a speech to the Jewish National Fund, a group the flyer said was complicit in "war crimes and ethnic cleansing." "Rae's wife is a vice-president of the CJC (Canadian Jewish Congress), a lobby group which supports Israeli apartheid," said the flyer in bold letters superimposed over a close-up of Rae's face. The Canadian Jewish Congress has condemned the flyer and blamed Khaled Mouammar, president of the Canadian Arab Federation for circulating it. The federation has, in turn, accused the CJC of making "a pitiful attempt to discredit" it and has denied producing or distributing the flyer.] Nevertheless, in a release yesterday, the federation supported the content of the flyer. "CAF believes that Canadians have the right to know the factual information provided" in the flyer, the federation said....... That is unbelieveable. Shades of 1930's Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
White Doors Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 Yes, because we didn't give Israel carte blanche to blow the living crap out of Lebanaon, well we must all be anti semites... oh.. and we did evacuate all those Arabs as welll, we must be I tell ya!!! You work for the embassy or are you just being a tit? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
scribblet Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 This appears to be the full article and brings up other issues, worth a read. It brings up other issues about delegates. There are two issues really, one of the delegate approaching Mrs. Rae, the other about the flyer. http://www.judeoscope.ca/breve.php3?id_breve=2890 On another website, operated by a Montreal-based pro-Palestinian group, Liberals were urged about a week before the leadership vote: "Do not vote for Bob Rae, we’re not looking or another Zionist PM." The group recommended that delegates vote for Gerard Kennedy, the fourth-place contender whose dramatic decision to throw his support to Stephane Dion after the second ballot clinched the victory for Dion. It said that "voting for Bob Rae is a vote for the daily massacre in Palestine (and) . . . for a new Zionist PM in Canada." Rae could not be reached for comment Thursday but insiders say he was aghast and hurt by the attacks. The smears have raised broader questions about the role that blocs of ethnic delegates played at the convention in securing a stunning, come-from-behind victory for Dion. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
mikedavid00 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 On the news today. A delegate approached the wife of Bob Rae during the leadership convention, not knowing who she was, and asked her not to vote for Rae because Rae's wife is Jewish!Electronic campaign smears have also allegedly been sent to other members and urged not to vote for Rae because his wife is the vice president of the Jewish Congress. If true, this proves what we've been saying all along:anti-semitism is rampant among the Liberals! And this may signal a big rip on what is being touted as a "united" Liberals. Who is behind this smear campaign? I hope Rae fights back unrelentingly...and hopefully the Conservatives will get to the bottom of this! I heard about this today also. As I said before, there was much more at play when 6 of 8 runners are backing Rae and the fourth placing runner ends up winning. Then need to stop their inside chrony-ism. Quote ---- Charles Anthony banned me for 30 days on April 28 for 'obnoxious libel' when I suggested Jack Layton took part in illegal activities in a message parlor. Claiming a politician took part in illegal activity is not rightful cause for banning and is what is discussed here almost daily in one capacity or another. This was really a brownshirt style censorship from a moderator on mapleleafweb http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1oGB-BKdZg---
BubberMiley Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 This proves what I've been saying all along: cheap political slander is rampant among so-called-Christian conservatives. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
August1991 Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 This proves what I've been saying all along: cheap political slander is rampant among so-called-Christian conservatives.???I fail to see the connection with "so-called-Christian conservatives". Quote
White Doors Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 This proves what I've been saying all along: cheap political slander is rampant among so-called-Christian conservatives. Really? How does this prove it? Rae is a conservative now? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
normanchateau Posted December 8, 2006 Report Posted December 8, 2006 As I said before, there was much more at play when 6 of 8 runners are backing Rae and the fourth placing runner ends up winning. Then need to stop their inside chrony-ism. Assuming "runners" means leadership candidates and not athletic shoes, how could 6 of 8 be supporting Rae? That means the 4 last place finishers as well as 2 of the 4 front runners were supporting Rae. I'm sure Rae supported Rae but what other front runner do you think supported him? Quote
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