sharkman Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 I suppose I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. After all, this is Reuters, not some left wing propaganda tool like the New York Times. A free lance photographer who happens to be Lebanese was caught doctoring photos. Somehow Reuters didn't catch it, but bloggers spotted it quite easily and an embarrassed Reuters has withdrawn all 920 photos this guy submitted into the database. here's one example. And another. Will there be more? When the truth is at stake, sadly, there will be. Quote
scribblet Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored. http://today.reuters.com/news/ArticleNews....AST-REUTERS.xml LONDON (Reuters) - Reuters withdrew all 920 photographs by a freelance Lebanese photographer from its database on Monday after an urgent review of his work showed he had altered two images from the conflict between Israel and the armed group Hizbollah. Global Picture Editor Tom Szlukovenyi called the measure precautionary but said the fact that two of the images by photographer Adnan Hajj had been manipulated undermined trust in his entire body of work. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Riverwind Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored.This entire conflict has driven me nuts. One hand I agree that Isreal had to do something to deter rocket attacks from Lebanon. On the other hand, I have a real problem with Isreali obsession with collective punishment and its willingness to destroy civilian infrastructure. Now we have a situation where I can't even trust the media to give me an accurate account of what is really going on in Lebanon. It is impossible tp have an informed opinion in such an environment. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
sharkman Posted August 7, 2006 Author Report Posted August 7, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored.This entire conflict has driven me nuts. One hand I agree that Isreal had to do something to deter rocket attacks from Lebanon. On the other hand, I have a real problem with Isreali obsession with collective punishment and its willingness to destroy civilian infrastructure. Now we have a situation where I can't even trust the media to give me an accurate account of what is really going on in Lebanon. It is impossible tp have an informed opinion in such an environment. Yeah, welcome to the Middle East. Quote
Drea Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 Pictures Are these photos doctored? (WARNING! Horrific Images) Shame on those who would publish fake photos! Everything we see is now suspect. It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
Riverwind Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos.My point is there is no one reporting the news that does not have an agenda. Those photos were grisly but they also provided no context - they could have been accidental or they could have even have been legimate Hizbolla targets or they could have been innocent civilians deliberately killed. All of the information we get is manipulated in some way and it is next to impossible for those of us living far away to seperate the truth from the manipulation. Quote To fly a plane, you need both a left wing and a right wing.
cybercoma Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 As far as Qana goes, I've even heard suggestions that Hezbollah were holding those people hostage in that apartment. There were rocket attacks from around those buildings (as was shown from satellite imagery on almost all the news sources) and Israel had told the people a day earlier to get out of town because the area would be attacked. The people stayed in the apartment building and there's speculation that Hezbollah would not allow them to leave. The suggestion is that the terrorists wanted these innocent civilians targeted, so they could gain public support. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 PicturesAre these photos doctored? (WARNING! Horrific Images) Shame on those who would publish fake photos! Everything we see is now suspect. It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos. Recall those doctored photos of service men in George Bush's campain pics? This kind of shit will happen way too often now with the advent of technology to produce images and doctor them. And yes, everything is suspect now. I have been wondering about that for some time. Now I will be looking at pics a little more closer and scutinize it. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos.My point is there is no one reporting the news that does not have an agenda. Those photos were grisly but they also provided no context - they could have been accidental or they could have even have been legimate Hizbolla targets or they could have been innocent civilians deliberately killed. All of the information we get is manipulated in some way and it is next to impossible for those of us living far away to seperate the truth from the manipulation. News from home can be faked just as easily. Why? People are sheep and take everything they see/get at face value. They don't question anything. Quote
scribblet Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored.This entire conflict has driven me nuts. One hand I agree that Isreal had to do something to deter rocket attacks from Lebanon. On the other hand, I have a real problem with Isreali obsession with collective punishment and its willingness to destroy civilian infrastructure. Now we have a situation where I can't even trust the media to give me an accurate account of what is really going on in Lebanon. It is impossible tp have an informed opinion in such an environment. The photos of Caana were from the same photographer, plus we know that Hezbollah is stage managing the press etc. CNN et al admitted it. I believe there is a post on this elsewhere I too am dismayed bu the number of civilian casualties, although it is Israel's policy not to deliberately target civilians. Hezbollah of course uses civilians as human shields, and counts on Israel getting the bad PR. Israel has to win this one way or another, otherwise it is game over for Israel (IMHO) If Hezbollah wins, there will be no stopping them and terrorism. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Rue Posted August 7, 2006 Report Posted August 7, 2006 When I was in Israel as a student studying politics one summer, I was paid $5.00 per hour to do the writing and research of articles for journalists who would sit at the bar at the King David hotel and never move from their seats and spend most of their time drunk. We all know then what you know now. That wire stories are worthless. Reuter and AP are two blatantly anti-Israel wire services. One thing that amused me was that a friend of mine (n ot Jewish, Greek) who was a free-lance film-maker and photographer took pictures of an apartment that was taken down in Lebanon in the early 60's. Those pictures resurfaced 15 years later and passed off as pictures from the Lebanese civilian war. Nothing suprises me. I also was directly involved in an incident which I witnessed where the PLO staged photoes. As wel if you knew anything about how Israel's media works, you would know they do not hesitate unlike in the Muslim world to lambaste their government and military. Quote
GostHacked Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 When I was in Israel as a student studying politics one summer, I was paid $5.00 per hour to do the writing and research of articles for journalists who would sit at the bar at the King David hotel and never move from their seats and spend most of their time drunk. We all know then what you know now. That wire stories are worthless. Reuter and AP are two blatantly anti-Israel wire services.One thing that amused me was that a friend of mine (n ot Jewish, Greek) who was a free-lance film-maker and photographer took pictures of an apartment that was taken down in Lebanon in the early 60's. Those pictures resurfaced 15 years later and passed off as pictures from the Lebanese civilian war. Nothing suprises me. I also was directly involved in an incident which I witnessed where the PLO staged photoes. As wel if you knew anything about how Israel's media works, you would know they do not hesitate unlike in the Muslim world to lambaste their government and military. You were paid 5 bucks to write news reports? And these got printed? I would have ratted on those drunk ass 'reporters'. I guess I can trust those news sources as well. ALL MEDIA IS BIASED. Grrr Quote
Argus Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 PicturesAre these photos doctored? (WARNING! Horrific Images) Shame on those who would publish fake photos! Everything we see is now suspect. It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos. Ohmygosh! Do you mean to tell me people die in wars! And it's ugly! Oh! My! GOD! I'm shocked. Honestly. BTW, congratulations on reducing the intellectual level of your argument to that of crazed anti-abortion fanatics who wave bottles of dead fetuses. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
cybercoma Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Ohmygosh! Do you mean to tell me people die in wars! And it's ugly! Oh! My! GOD!I'm shocked. Honestly. BTW, congratulations on reducing the intellectual level of your argument to that of crazed anti-abortion fanatics who wave bottles of dead fetuses. How come the plural for virus is virii, but the plural for fetus isn't fetii? Quote
sharkman Posted August 8, 2006 Author Report Posted August 8, 2006 I heard on the supper hour Gobal Newscast that it was the website little green footballs that broke the doctored photos story initially. Apparently they struck a nerve. A Reuters employee has been suspended after sending a death threat to Charles Johnson, the owner of little green footballs. "I look forward to the day when you pigs get you throats cut." These people just can't help but reveal their true racist hatred. Give them enough time and even the MSM will realize it. Quote
Drea Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Pictures Are these photos doctored? (WARNING! Horrific Images) Shame on those who would publish fake photos! Everything we see is now suspect. It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos. Ohmygosh! Do you mean to tell me people die in wars! And it's ugly! Oh! My! GOD! I'm shocked. Honestly. BTW, congratulations on reducing the intellectual level of your argument to that of crazed anti-abortion fanatics who wave bottles of dead fetuses. Oh get off it already. You have already been reported to the moderator, must I report you daily? The comment "It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos." was meant facetiously. We can no longer believe anything that comes from any source now can we? Are the pictures of the roasted children real or fake? Perhaps no one has died at all and it's just fake photos and fake news stories we are seeing on the TV and reading on the internet. Do you NOT suspect what you see? You should. Nothing can be taken at face value today. Quote ...jealous much? Booga Booga! Hee Hee Hee
Shakeyhands Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 These people just can't help but reveal their true racist hatred. Give them enough time and even the MSM will realize it. Sharkman... Can you please tell me who the MSM is? better yet, perhaps a list of who is the MSM and who isn't will help, I really am not sure who you refer to, is it everyone but the Bloggers and UNtraditional media types? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
Black Dog Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 I heard on the supper hour Gobal Newscast that it was the website little green footballs that broke the doctored photos story initially. Apparently they struck a nerve. A Reuters employee has been suspended after sending a death threat to Charles Johnson, the owner of little green footballs."I look forward to the day when you pigs get you throats cut." These people just can't help but reveal their true racist hatred. Give them enough time and even the MSM will realize it. Maybe he meant to submit it to Johnson to post on LGF. That kind of rhetoric is pretty common there. Quote
Argus Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 Pictures Are these photos doctored? (WARNING! Horrific Images) Shame on those who would publish fake photos! Everything we see is now suspect. It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos. Ohmygosh! Do you mean to tell me people die in wars! And it's ugly! Oh! My! GOD! I'm shocked. Honestly. BTW, congratulations on reducing the intellectual level of your argument to that of crazed anti-abortion fanatics who wave bottles of dead fetuses. Oh get off it already. You have already been reported to the moderator, must I report you daily? Go for it, sweety. The comment "It's ok folks, none of this is really happening. No one is really dying in the ME, it's all just fake photos." was meant facetiously. You mean sarcastically. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Black Dog Posted August 8, 2006 Report Posted August 8, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored. How many other ficticious smoke plumes have we seen? How many other flares have been copied? We must know the truth! Quote
sharkman Posted August 9, 2006 Author Report Posted August 9, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored. How many other ficticious smoke plumes have we seen? How many other flares have been copied? We must know the truth! Knowing the truth is always better than knowing a lie. Last week it was reported that 40 civilians were killed in an Israeli bomb attack. That, for instance was a lie. The mayor of the town involved has now himself admitted only one was killed. P.S. The MSM means mainstream media, shakyhands. Quote
BubberMiley Posted August 9, 2006 Report Posted August 9, 2006 Go for it, sweety. Sweety? You might want to try "baby" or "darling" next time for a similar patronizing effect. I don't think it makes your arguments any stronger though. Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
jdobbin Posted August 9, 2006 Report Posted August 9, 2006 Sweety? You might want to try "baby" or "darling" next time for a similar patronizing effect. I don't think it makes your arguments any stronger though. While the calls of racism are sometimes in dispute, it is far easier to see sexism demonstrated. When used here, it is done to demean rather than win arguments. Quote
Shady Posted August 9, 2006 Report Posted August 9, 2006 AP Beirut photo faces questions A woman has made two appearances in photographs used by the Associated Press and Reuters, allegedly wailing over the destruction of her Beirut home. US bloggers have however noticed that photographs were taken two weeks apart from each other, according to times stamps on the images, and that the photographs were taken in different locations Link Here we go again. Quote
Rue Posted August 10, 2006 Report Posted August 10, 2006 They have withdrawn all of them, but the damage is done, those who do not support Israel will believe them anyway. One also has to wonder how many other photos from other sources are also doctored. How many other ficticious smoke plumes have we seen? How many other flares have been copied? We must know the truth! Why the double standard Black Dog. What gives you the divine and self-righteous presence to roll your eyes and belittle people but run to the moderator anytime someone says something sarcastic your direction? Which one is it. Do me a favour, before you roll your eyes, look in the mirror. You are not witty, funny, and no you do not have a monopoly on truth and so can openly engage on these posts as if you are in the know and everyone else is not. The point is the photoes were doctored as were many others in the past and as many others will be in the future. That was the point before you decided to use it as an opportunity to be arrogant. And I say that rolling my eyes o.k.? Quote
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