Liberal Table Bill Restricting Abortions

[scribblet]

Wow, and its a Liberal bill, how will the liberals get around accusing the conservatives of doing away with women's choice.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062105.html

First Bill Restricting Abortion Tabled in Canada Under Conservative Government

By John-Henry Westen

OTTAWA, June 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Liberal MP Paul Steckle stood today in the House of Commons to introduce the first piece of pro-life legislation in the current parliament under the Conservative Government. In introducing Bill C-338, 'An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (procuring a miscarriage after 20 weeks of gestation),' Steckle called on the House to debate the issue noting that Canada was one of the only countries in the world with absolutely no protection for the unborn in law whatsoever. The bill would restrict abortion after twenty weeks gestation; currently in Canada abortions are performed at tax-payer expense up birth.

[Riverwind]

Wow, and its a Liberal bill, how will the liberals get around accusing the conservatives of doing away with women's choice.

Could be a set up. It may force Harper to shutdown debate on the issue to avoid having that issue follow him into an election.

[geoffrey]

Those Liberals and their neo-con policies telling women what to do with their bodies!! It's scandalous!!

If it was a CPC motion, CBC would have lead with a breaking news headline that Harper is on a Christian crusade against women. Instead, they view the story positively as a bill to protect women's right's.

Oh my, this is priceless.

[Charles Anthony]

Could be an MP who sincerely believes in the cause and was elected with the promise of presenting the bill on behalf of his constituents.

[scribblet]

Those Liberals and their neo-con policies telling women what to do with their bodies!! It's scandalous!!

If it was a CPC motion, CBC would have lead with a breaking news headline that Harper is on a Christian crusade against women. Instead, they view the story positively as a bill to protect women's right's.

Oh my, this is priceless.

I think its priceless too, so far no mention of it on the news or CBC website.

If its a setup, I don't think it would harm Harper too much if he shut down debate, he's made it clear all along that he won't allow any bills or debate on abortion. Not only that, the NDP will have to vote with the CPC. It is priceless...

[Guest Warwick Green]

Wow, and its a Liberal bill, how will the liberals get around accusing the conservatives of doing away with women's choice.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062105.html

First Bill Restricting Abortion Tabled in Canada Under Conservative Government

By John-Henry Westen

OTTAWA, June 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Liberal MP Paul Steckle stood today in the House of Commons to introduce the first piece of pro-life legislation in the current parliament under the Conservative Government. In introducing Bill C-338, 'An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (procuring a miscarriage after 20 weeks of gestation),' Steckle called on the House to debate the issue noting that Canada was one of the only countries in the world with absolutely no protection for the unborn in law whatsoever. The bill would restrict abortion after twenty weeks gestation; currently in Canada abortions are performed at tax-payer expense up birth.

It's a private member's bill, not a "Liberal" bill. It's got a lot of hoops to go through before it will be voted on, if at all. Hard to see it going anywhere. It's not in the order of precedence so it may just go nowhere at all.

[sharkman]

This is an absolute crock by the CBC. If any CBCers are reading this you have given me much mirth today. Any Canadian with half a brain knows if this had been tabled by the CPC, you'd have led your news with this groundbreaking threat to take us back into the dark ages of back alley abortions.

Since a Liberal does it, you give it very little coverage and call it preserving womens' rights. Still trying to correct the 'mistake' of the voters' last election, are we? Protecting the Liberals at all costs and slanting all stories to give them favorable coverage will not work. But keep trying, like I said it's providing much mirth at your expense.

[gc1765]

This is an absolute crock by the CBC. If any CBCers are reading this you have given me much mirth today. Any Canadian with half a brain knows if this had been tabled by the CPC, you'd have led your news with this groundbreaking threat to take us back into the dark ages of back alley abortions.

Since a Liberal does it, you give it very little coverage and call it preserving womens' rights. Still trying to correct the 'mistake' of the voters' last election, are we? Protecting the Liberals at all costs and slanting all stories to give them favorable coverage will not work. But keep trying, like I said it's providing much mirth at your expense.

Ha, you anti-CBC people are hilarious. I checked the globe and mail website and the national post website, and still no mention of it. I guess you think the national post has a liberal agenda?

[sharkman]

This is an absolute crock by the CBC. If any CBCers are reading this you have given me much mirth today. Any Canadian with half a brain knows if this had been tabled by the CPC, you'd have led your news with this groundbreaking threat to take us back into the dark ages of back alley abortions.

Since a Liberal does it, you give it very little coverage and call it preserving womens' rights. Still trying to correct the 'mistake' of the voters' last election, are we? Protecting the Liberals at all costs and slanting all stories to give them favorable coverage will not work. But keep trying, like I said it's providing much mirth at your expense.

Ha, you anti-CBC people are hilarious. I checked the globe and mail website and the national post website, and still no mention of it. I guess you think the national post has a liberal agenda?

Well, then I'm glad to provide even more entertainment, because the issue isn't what the post or G&M have, it's what the CBC has. Thank you for looking, but don't you think it's a little odd that the CBC is the only one that has it? How about they were tipped off, and got the scoop soas to shape the story. So how long have you worked for the CBC?

[geoffrey]

If your not naive or ignorant, there wouldn't be any doubt that this is one of the most perfect, biggest examples, of CBC bias we've seen yet. Imagine if ol' Myron Thompson had introduced the bill? I'm sure Ottawa would be marched upon by 100,000 feminists and CBC would be running 24/7 coverage of the 'neo-con agenda.'

But if a Liberal does it, meh, its women's rights.

What the heck, wake up.

[Hicksey]

Wow, and its a Liberal bill, how will the liberals get around accusing the conservatives of doing away with women's choice.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062105.html

First Bill Restricting Abortion Tabled in Canada Under Conservative Government

By John-Henry Westen

OTTAWA, June 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Liberal MP Paul Steckle stood today in the House of Commons to introduce the first piece of pro-life legislation in the current parliament under the Conservative Government. In introducing Bill C-338, 'An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (procuring a miscarriage after 20 weeks of gestation),' Steckle called on the House to debate the issue noting that Canada was one of the only countries in the world with absolutely no protection for the unborn in law whatsoever. The bill would restrict abortion after twenty weeks gestation; currently in Canada abortions are performed at tax-payer expense up birth.

The Liberals screamed "OoOo SCary Harper" at the top of their lungs for an entire election cycle when it should have been "OoOo SCary Liberals."

[Riverwind]

If your not naive or ignorant, there wouldn't be any doubt that this is one of the most perfect, biggest examples, of CBC bias we've seen yet. Imagine if ol' Myron Thompson had introduced the bill? I'm sure Ottawa would be marched upon by 100,000 feminists and CBC would be running 24/7 coverage of the 'neo-con agenda.'

I agree that the all media in Canada has double standard when it comes to coverage of abortion issues. I don;t think it is reasonable to single out the CBC because the G&M, CTV or Global would do the same.

[Nocrap]

Wow, and its a Liberal bill, how will the liberals get around accusing the conservatives of doing away with women's choice.

http://www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/jun/06062105.html

First Bill Restricting Abortion Tabled in Canada Under Conservative Government

By John-Henry Westen

OTTAWA, June 21, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Liberal MP Paul Steckle stood today in the House of Commons to introduce the first piece of pro-life legislation in the current parliament under the Conservative Government. In introducing Bill C-338, 'An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (procuring a miscarriage after 20 weeks of gestation),' Steckle called on the House to debate the issue noting that Canada was one of the only countries in the world with absolutely no protection for the unborn in law whatsoever. The bill would restrict abortion after twenty weeks gestation; currently in Canada abortions are performed at tax-payer expense up birth.

It's a private member's bill, not a "Liberal" bill. It's got a lot of hoops to go through before it will be voted on, if at all. Hard to see it going anywhere. It's not in the order of precedence so it may just go nowhere at all.

I agree. The fact that a Liberal MP is allowed to introduce a bill on behalf of their constituents speaks volumes. If any CPC MP tried to speak for...well...tried to speak...they'd be bound and gagged and locked away in the basement. This is just Democracy at work. I applaud Mr. Steckle for not simply following party line. I may not agree with his stand but do agree with his decision to stand up. Well done.

[Guest Warwick Green]

What's the issue here?

There are about 150 private member's bills going through the hopper right now. Rarely do PMBs get media attention unless they pass at second reading. Or is it the fact that there is a Liberal anti-aborter? He's not the first - remember Pat O'Brien and Tom Wappel. Actually Tom is still around but he doesn't seem to play the religion card as much as he used to.

Before a PMB can proceed it has to be sanctioned by all-party committee. I don't know whether that has taken place yet.

Other than the propaganda website quoted earlier I have seen no reference to this bill anywhere, not even on the Parliamentary website.

The fact that a Liberal MP is allowed to introduce a bill on behalf of their constituents speaks volumes. If any CPC MP tried to speak for...well...tried to speak...they'd be bound and gagged and locked away in the basement

The governing party can be quite "persuasive" in these matters. Promotion to Parliamentary secretary, nice office in the West Block instead of in the old Justice Building, getting visits from the PM in the riding, etc.

[August1991]

This is an absolute crock by the CBC. If any CBCers are reading this you have given me much mirth today. Any Canadian with half a brain knows if this had been tabled by the CPC, you'd have led your news with this groundbreaking threat to take us back into the dark ages of back alley abortions.

I have to agree. If a Conservative backbencher had tabled this bill, the CBC would have reported it.

CBC Search on Steckle

[scribblet]

Still no news that I've heard, I just got confirmation from Steckle's office as I was beginning to wonder if it were true - it is. Hard to believe that nothing has been said on this in the media - guess they don't know what to say. I'm not sure about procedure but it may not get out of committee, it could be deemed non-votable.

Harper made it clear from the get go that abortion was not up for discussion, if it makes it to a Parliamentary vote I'm guessing it will be a free vote.

Personally I don't have a problem with limiting late terms, but I think we alll know that this is a foot in the door to denying women freedom of choice.

[Guest Warwick Green]

Still no news that I've heard, I just got confirmation from Steckle's office as I was beginning to wonder if it were true - it is. Hard to believe that nothing has been said on this in the media - guess they don't know what to say. I'm not sure about procedure but it may not get out of committee, it could be deemed non-votable.

Harper made it clear from the get go that abortion was not up for discussion, if it makes it to a Parliamentary vote I'm guessing it will be a free vote.

Personally I don't have a problem with limiting late terms, but I think we alll know that this is a foot in the door to denying women freedom of choice.

Busy summer ahead for the socons. Trying to round up support for this and also fighting SSM.

The reason for the lack of media attention is probably that it's just another of a multitude of PMBs introduced this session.

[MightyAC]

Making mountains out of mole hills.

Paul Steckle has always been opposed to abortion. He was the co-chair of the all-party Parliamentary Pro-Life Caucus and he has attended pro-life rallies. Obviously, his personal views differ from the majority of his party. Saying the Liberals are trying to limit a woman's right to choose because of Steckle's personal crusade is like saying the Conservatives are in favour of same-sex marriage because MP Jim Prentice supports it.

It may be possible that he is tabling the private member's bill now because with the Conservatives in power he feels it is his best chance to advance his personal pro-life cause.

[gc1765]

Well, then I'm glad to provide even more entertainment, because the issue isn't what the post or G&M have, it's what the CBC has. Thank you for looking, but don't you think it's a little odd that the CBC is the only one that has it? How about they were tipped off, and got the scoop soas to shape the story. So how long have you worked for the CBC?

What? First you criticize the CBC for not running the story, now you are saying they they do have the story and criticizing them for that? I haven't seen the story on CBC, or any news for that matter. If you are going to criticize the CBC for having a liberal agenda, you should be criticizing the national post etc. just as much since they are not running the story either. How can you criticize one but not the others when they are doing the exact same thing. Do you think the national post has a liberal agenda? Cause you'd be the first person I've ever heard say that.

If your not naive or ignorant, there wouldn't be any doubt that this is one of the most perfect, biggest examples, of CBC bias we've seen yet. Imagine if ol' Myron Thompson had introduced the bill? I'm sure Ottawa would be marched upon by 100,000 feminists and CBC would be running 24/7 coverage of the 'neo-con agenda.'

But if a Liberal does it, meh, its women's rights.

What the heck, wake up.

Pure speculation.

[August1991]

What? First you criticize the CBC for not running the story, now you are saying they they do have the story and criticizing them for that? I haven't seen the story on CBC, or any news for that matter. If you are going to criticize the CBC for having a liberal agenda, you should be criticizing the national post etc. just as much since they are not running the story either.

The point is that if it had been a Conservative backbencher who had tabled this private member's bill, the CBC would have reported the news. The fact that Steckle is a Liberal means that it has not been reported.

The CBC is apparently quick to see signs of a Tory social conservative agenda but is blithe to the same agenda from Liberals.

[scribblet]

Making mountains out of mole hills.

Paul Steckle has always been opposed to abortion. He was the co-chair of the all-party Parliamentary Pro-Life Caucus and he has attended pro-life rallies. Obviously, his personal views differ from the majority of his party. Saying the Liberals are trying to limit a woman's right to choose because of Steckle's personal crusade is like saying the Conservatives are in favour of same-sex marriage because MP Jim Prentice supports it.

It may be possible that he is tabling the private member's bill now because with the Conservatives in power he feels it is his best chance to advance his personal pro-life cause.

I don't agree its mountains - molehills, he obviously is attempting it, knowing a number of CPC's would vote for it, if it's a free vote. If it passes, its a foot in the door, give an inch they'll take a mile.

Hopefully it won't make it out of committee.

[Black Dog]

The point is that if it had been a Conservative backbencher who had tabled this private member's bill, the CBC would have reported the news. The fact that Steckle is a Liberal means that it has not been reported.

The CBC is apparently quick to see signs of a Tory social conservative agenda but is blithe to the same agenda from Liberals.

So why the silence from every other media outlet? Are they in on the conspiracy too?

[gc1765]

The point is that if it had been a Conservative backbencher who had tabled this private member's bill, the CBC would have reported the news. The fact that Steckle is a Liberal means that it has not been reported.

The CBC is apparently quick to see signs of a Tory social conservative agenda but is blithe to the same agenda from Liberals.

I understand your point, however your entire argument is based on mere speculation not facts. You don't actually know what the CBC would have done if it had been a CPC private members bill. The fact is that none of the major media outlets (to my knowledge) have reported the story, therefore it doesn't make sense to criticize the CBC and not the rest of the media.

[August1991]

I understand your point, however your entire argument is based on mere speculation not facts.

Agreed. Absolutely. The speculation concerns what the CBC would have done if a Tory had done this - and we won't know since Harper has said, I believe, that no one in his caucus will do it in this session.

I think the CBC is singled out because it is a State organization and many people (including myself) view it as biased.

[gc1765]

I understand your point, however your entire argument is based on mere speculation not facts.

Agreed. Absolutely. The speculation concerns what the CBC would have done if a Tory had done this - and we won't know since Harper has said, I believe, that no one in his caucus will do it in this session.

I think the CBC is singled out because it is a State organization and many people (including myself) view it as biased.

Fair enough.