You know that voter fraud that doesn't happen?

[Fluffypants]

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

There are many many examples of this kind of thing in America. Anybody that claims voter fraud doesn't exist is an absolute liar, I believe every single federal election they discover some voter fraud.

The real question is does enough of it happen to make a substantial difference to the outcome? And that's where it gets a lot harder to say for sure.

But it certainly can't be discounted. Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules and the rules are such that it makes voter fraud easy enough to detect but people can believe with certainty that even if a small amount went undetected it would be too small to make a difference.

Democracy only works if people have faith in it. And you can't have faith in a system that you can't be sure is honest

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules

But doesn't that mean federal overreach or fascism or commyism or somthing? Sounds pretty left wing whatever it is.

[Fluffypants]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

There are many many examples of this kind of thing in America. Anybody that claims voter fraud doesn't exist is an absolute liar, I believe every single federal election they discover some voter fraud.

The real question is does enough of it happen to make a substantial difference to the outcome? And that's where it gets a lot harder to say for sure.

But it certainly can't be discounted. Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules and the rules are such that it makes voter fraud easy enough to detect but people can believe with certainty that even if a small amount went undetected it would be too small to make a difference.

Democracy only works if people have faith in it. And you can't have faith in a system that you can't be sure is honest

To me the rules should be no more universal mail in voting unless you have good reason for an absentee ballot, 2 weeks maximum of early voting and voting day is voting day all absentee ballots must be in on voting day. 

Its just like money the more people between you and your vote the more chance that it is stolen. 

California's voting rules are insane and full of ways to cheat. Making it so anyone can vote harvest including political organizations is just down right stupid and that is how you get the people on skid row paying for votes. Automatic registration when you get a Drivers License and give licenses to anyone including illegals is bad. Universal Mail in Ballots and never cleaning your voter rolls not only is a huge waste of taxpayer funds, you can end up with 10 ballots at your house and those vote harvesters would be happy to collect those for you.

I think voting should take some effort. If its important to you you will find time to go do it and you are more likely to know what/who you are voting for.

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Fluffypants

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Edited 4 hours ago by robosmith

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

But doesn't that mean federal overreach or fascism or commyism or somthing?

It doesn't but that certainly what the democrats claim. They claim that if ou make sure that only people that are eligible to vote are voting then it's voter repression. 

I'm sure you'd be right there with them suggesting that anything that promotes fair and free elections should be avoided. You spoken several times about how you think people shouldn't be voting in the first place

 

[Fluffypants]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Cry to CBS news or read the article. This is CBS not exactly a right wing outlet.

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Well, Columbo, it was valid enough to force a new election. 

[Moonbox]

20 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Cry to CBS news or read the article. This is CBS not exactly a right wing outlet.

I guess the question is what do you figure it means? 

I'm not sure who you think ever claimed that people don't attempt voter fraud.  It seems like you figure this somehow proves something larger though....

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

I guess the question is what do you figure it means? 

I'm not sure who you think ever claimed that people don't attempt voter fraud.  It seems like you figure this somehow proves something larger though....

It does. It proves you Tweenkies cheat...constantly. You Libbies cheated in LA...You cheated in NY...several other cheats have been found too. 

And that's only what is caught. Obviously the Libbie cheating is more than just what's caught.

Libbies...saving Democracy...

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It doesn't but that certainly what the democrats claim. They claim that if ou make sure that only people that are eligible to vote are voting then it's voter repression. 

Nonsense. Only you people imagine Democrats say that.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sure you'd be right there with them suggesting that anything that promotes fair and free elections should be avoided. You spoken several times about how you think people shouldn't be voting in the first place

Nonsense. Only you imagine I say that.

Because you're a complete loon, like the rest of you people.

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Nonsense. Only you people imagine Democrats say that.

Nonsense. Only you imagine I say that.

Because you're a complete loon, like the rest of you people.

Excuse me but...

Who thinks men can be women?

Who keeps trying to assassinate Trump and anyone near him?

Who opened the border to millions and lied about it?

Who keeps getting caught engaging in multiple types of fraud?

Who lied about climate change and cost all humanity billions...if not trillions?

Who wants to abolish law officers?

That's right...you Tweenkies.

No FOAD you lyin' little shit.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who thinks men can be women?

Not me.

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who keeps trying to assassinate Trump and anyone near him?

Not me.

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who opened the border to millions and lied about it?

Ditto.

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who keeps getting caught engaging in multiple types of fraud?

Again I say, not me.

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who lied about climate change and cost all humanity billions...if not trillions?

Humanity.

6 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Who wants to abolish law officers?

Not me. Am I getting thru to you at all?

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

That's right...you Tweenkies.

Why do you keep misspelling and conflating Hostess cupcakes with...me?

10 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No FOAD you lyin' little shit.

Or what?

 

[Nationalist]

16 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Not me.

Not me.

Ditto.

Again I say, not me.

Humanity.

Not me. Am I getting thru to you at all?

Why do you keep misspelling and conflating Hostess cupcakes with...me?

Or what?

 

Lol...another Tweenkie with attitude. Time always catches up with you little snots.

"I DIDN'T DO IT. I JUST VOTED FOR IT."

Don't you ever tire of being a cowardly slimeball? Didn't whoever raised you, teach you morality, honor and respect. I mean...you openly display a lack of all three and in the case of respect, you even show disrespect for yourself.

You must really be a tortured soul.

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...another Tweenkie with attitude. Time always catches up with you little snots.

"I DIDN'T DO IT. I JUST VOTED FOR IT."

Don't you ever tire of being a cowardly slimeball? Didn't whoever raised you, teach you morality, honor and respect. I mean...you openly display a lack of all three and in the case of respect, you even show disrespect for yourself.

You must really be a tortured soul.

What on Earth are you babbling about? I voted for the things I said not me or I engineered the climate change scam or something?

You seriously need to get a grip. Your thinking is ridiculously fùcked up.

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What on Earth are you babbling about? I voted for the things I said not me or I engineered the climate change scam or something?

You seriously need to get a grip. Your thinking is ridiculously fùcked up.

You needed proper lessons apparently. Someone sure let you down. Sad I suppose. You don't even realize...or likely won't admit you realize...what I'm talking about.

You have no sense of right and wrong. Just "Us against them". And when pressed..."I DIDN'T DO IT". How the Hell does a person...especially a man...get to manhood governed by such basic and childish notions?

 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

Cry to CBS news or read the article. This is CBS not exactly a right wing outlet.

It IS NOW. You don't even who Bari Weis is and why she's in charge of CBS News. LMAO

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You don't even realize...or likely won't admit you realize...what I'm talking about.

You think I support the things happening on your list of grievances.

You're a deluded loon who can't think straight.

24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

You have no sense of right and wrong. Just "Us against them". And when pressed..."I DIDN'T DO IT". How the Hell does a person...especially a man...get to manhood governed by such basic and childish notions?

By not projecting his childishness on others. So grow up already why don't you?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Nonsense. Only you people imagine Democrats say that.

The democrats literally say that constantly. Biden called the georga laws "jim crow for the 21st century"  (turned out they were perfectly lawful and fine)  They insist anything requiring id is racist because black people are way too stupid to get id.

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Nonsense. Only you imagine I say that.

Literally say that and more than once. Usually right around the time when I say that people like you should be holding the government to account for their bad behavior. I always seems to irritate you, the idea that voters should be responsible for the gov't. 

45 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What on Earth are you babbling about? I voted for the things I said not me

You lying about everything so why would anybody take your word for it? All we can do is look at what you actually say and do around here before you deny ever saying and doing it and use that as a reference for your likely Behavior

You don't get to act outraged when all you do is lie and people don't believe you