You know that voter fraud that doesn't happen?

[Fluffypants]

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

There are many many examples of this kind of thing in America. Anybody that claims voter fraud doesn't exist is an absolute liar, I believe every single federal election they discover some voter fraud.

The real question is does enough of it happen to make a substantial difference to the outcome? And that's where it gets a lot harder to say for sure.

But it certainly can't be discounted. Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules and the rules are such that it makes voter fraud easy enough to detect but people can believe with certainty that even if a small amount went undetected it would be too small to make a difference.

Democracy only works if people have faith in it. And you can't have faith in a system that you can't be sure is honest

[eyeball]

25 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules

But doesn't that mean federal overreach or fascism or commyism or somthing? Sounds pretty left wing whatever it is.

[Fluffypants]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

There are many many examples of this kind of thing in America. Anybody that claims voter fraud doesn't exist is an absolute liar, I believe every single federal election they discover some voter fraud.

The real question is does enough of it happen to make a substantial difference to the outcome? And that's where it gets a lot harder to say for sure.

But it certainly can't be discounted. Americans need to switch to a system where all of the states operate under the same rules and the rules are such that it makes voter fraud easy enough to detect but people can believe with certainty that even if a small amount went undetected it would be too small to make a difference.

Democracy only works if people have faith in it. And you can't have faith in a system that you can't be sure is honest

To me the rules should be no more universal mail in voting unless you have good reason for an absentee ballot, 2 weeks maximum of early voting and voting day is voting day all absentee ballots must be in on voting day. 

Its just like money the more people between you and your vote the more chance that it is stolen. 

California's voting rules are insane and full of ways to cheat. Making it so anyone can vote harvest including political organizations is just down right stupid and that is how you get the people on skid row paying for votes. Automatic registration when you get a Drivers License and give licenses to anyone including illegals is bad. Universal Mail in Ballots and never cleaning your voter rolls not only is a huge waste of taxpayer funds, you can end up with 10 ballots at your house and those vote harvesters would be happy to collect those for you.

I think voting should take some effort. If its important to you you will find time to go do it and you are more likely to know what/who you are voting for.

 

Edited 4 hours ago by Fluffypants

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Fluffypants said:

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/hempstead-union-free-school-district-clerk-throwing-away-ballots/

They found a clerk throwing ballots away and have to redo the election.

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by robosmith

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

But doesn't that mean federal overreach or fascism or commyism or somthing?

It doesn't but that certainly what the democrats claim. They claim that if ou make sure that only people that are eligible to vote are voting then it's voter repression. 

I'm sure you'd be right there with them suggesting that anything that promotes fair and free elections should be avoided. You spoken several times about how you think people shouldn't be voting in the first place

 

[Fluffypants]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Cry to CBS news or read the article. This is CBS not exactly a right wing outlet.

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Do you know what this picture from your cite depicts :

It looks like a Xerox copy of a ballot APPLICATION

 

 

Well, Columbo, it was valid enough to force a new election. 

[Moonbox]

20 minutes ago, Fluffypants said:

Cry to CBS news or read the article. This is CBS not exactly a right wing outlet.

I guess the question is what do you figure it means? 

I'm not sure who you think ever claimed that people don't attempt voter fraud.  It seems like you figure this somehow proves something larger though....

[Nationalist]

1 minute ago, Moonbox said:

I guess the question is what do you figure it means? 

I'm not sure who you think ever claimed that people don't attempt voter fraud.  It seems like you figure this somehow proves something larger though....

It does. It proves you Tweenkies cheat...constantly. You Libbies cheated in LA...You cheated in NY...several other cheats have been found too. 

And that's only what is caught. Obviously the Libbie cheating is more than just what's caught.

Libbies...saving Democracy...