Carney says MPs are "just useful for votes"

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure pumpkin 😏😏😏🙄🙄🙄 Tell yourself whatever lies you need you to get through the night. We can all hear the tape and dozens of sources agree that that he said 'just'.  And it wouldn't have even made sense if he'd said it the way you claimed

He said 'Just useful for votes' and then laughed thinking it was a great joke. 

Liberals are all the same, "Justin was a great leader! Our economy is booming! Things have not been so affordable for decades! Carly never said what he said honest!'

I'm sure there's a way for you to look more pathetic but I can't think of what it would be right now. Sorry was that too many words for you?

I don't have to tell myself anything.  I can just watch the video and use my ears.  Anyone else can too.  Your ranting and fussing and pleading that we accept your warped reality doesn't change anything.  🤡

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Legato said:

"we have MP's they're not - they're just good for votes".

It's all over the internet, google it.

Are you sure? How do you know he didn't say “You just have MPs and they're useful for votes… same with cabinet members.”?

The difference between we and you seems pretty stark don't you think?

You actually checked before quoting what someone else told you the internet said without asking the Internet directly yourself?

I mean I get it that PMOs have less and less regard for those beneath them as time passes and Carney is a PM...but if we're going to criticize this we should at least get it right, and especially what's worthiest of criticism.

What is needed is a much better understanding within government of how the Westminster system is meant to work, what the pitfalls of excessive centralization of power and advice are, and why balance in how government operates is ultimately in everyone’s best interest.

https://archive.ph/XRpDe

The concentration of power just naturally goes with the concentration of wealth like peas and carrots or space and time. It's accelerating around the world.

It's time for a revolution.

[Legato]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Are you sure? How do you know he didn't say “You just have MPs and they're useful for votes… same with cabinet members.”?

 

That's you speaking, the Carney did not say that.

More cloth ears.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

That's you speaking, the Carney did not say that.

Did you check? This is what Google AI said in response to my question...
 

what exactly did he say?

This

"you just have MPs, and they're not ... they're useful for votes."

or

"we have MP's they're not - they're just good for votes"

.....

The exact phrase Mark Carney used leans closest to your first option. According to the recorded hot mic transcript, his exact words on Parliament Hill were:

“You just have MPs and they're useful for votes… same with cabinet members.”

Do you use a different Google or do you run down to the library to check between posts?

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Did you check? This is what Google AI said in response to my question...
 

what exactly did he say?

This

"you just have MPs, and they're not ... they're useful for votes."

or

"we have MP's they're not - they're just good for votes"

.....

The exact phrase Mark Carney used leans closest to your first option. According to the recorded hot mic transcript, his exact words on Parliament Hill were:

“You just have MPs and they're useful for votes… same with cabinet members.”

Do you use a different Google or do you run down to the library to check between posts?

You okay? You seem to be agreeing that the Carney is once again showing his disdain for anything not Brookfield.

[SpankyMcFarland]

 

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Did you check? This is what Google AI said in response to my question...
 

what exactly did he say?

This

"you just have MPs, and they're not ... they're useful for votes."

or

"we have MP's they're not - they're just good for votes"

.....

The exact phrase Mark Carney used leans closest to your first option. According to the recorded hot mic transcript, his exact words on Parliament Hill were:

“You just have MPs and they're useful for votes… same with cabinet members.”

Do you use a different Google or do you run down to the library to check between posts?

I agree. I am not exactly blessed with the hearing of an owl these days but what I am hearing is, “they’re useful for votes” here. I don’t hear a “just” at all.

Regarding context, bear in mind also that these two politicians are comparing different systems. Ours depends crucially on votes of confidence no matter who was elected for which party. If you don’t have the votes, you’re done. 

https://thedeepdive.ca/carney-mps-useful-for-votes/

 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[SpankyMcFarland]

On 6/22/2026 at 6:58 PM, CdnFox said:

 

 

 

HOT MIC: Carney says MPs are "just useful for votes"

 

This guy does not care about democracy, this guy does not care about Canada. Everything and everyone is just something to be used for his own purposes.

Have you listened to this recording? I can’t hear “just” anywhere around the five second mark. The whole case rests on the presence of that word. Saying that MPs are useful for votes is true - a PM depends on those votes all the time. 

Edited 13 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[eyeball]

26 minutes ago, Legato said:

You okay? You seem to be agreeing that the Carney is once again showing his disdain for anything not Brookfield.

Which includes MPs and Cabinet. As I've been saying elsewhere this is how PMs and their PMOs have all been trending this way for decades now. Westminster Parliamentary systems elsewhere are all going down the same road.

Trust me, you and I are on the same side here. I'm just trying to improve your focus on what it is that's really at issue. Your thinking is polluted with left wing derangement syndrome however and whatever you say or think needs to include a dig at anything that isn't right wing and conservative.

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Moonbox said:

I don't have to tell myself anything.  I

Because the voices in your head do it for you?

Have you ever considered the possibility of coming here and not making a complete jackass of yourself where everybody is pointing and laughing?

You're like the hunter in that bear joke ..,,,  "be honest, you don't come here for the hunting do you"  

[SpankyMcFarland]

This recording is like a Rorschach test of political allegiance. Apparently, only one side can hear the ‘just’. 

[CdnFox]

47 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Have you listened to this recording? I can’t hear “just” anywhere around the five second mark. The whole case rests on the presence of that word. Saying that MPs are useful for votes is true - a PM depends on those votes all the time. 

It's clear as a bell unless you're deliberately trying to miss it, and no it doesn't. Even if all he said is we have MPS they're useful for voting right implies exactly the same thing.

Once again you're stuck defending the indefensible rather than addressing it. You guys on the left claim that trump supporters are delusional but you guys are a hundred times worse

What he said should be condemned by every Canadian joke or not and you're trying every single twist and turn possible to excuse it

1 minute ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

This recording is like a Rorschach test of political allegiance. Apparently, only one side can hear the ‘just’. 

Like one side ignores the fact he said just. I'm strangely it seems like all the neutral people on the internet hear the just

Minutes before you were arguing that this is part of a larger trend and now you're trying to claim it never happened

Do you have any idea how pathetic you look? You can't even say you shouldn't have said that

[SpankyMcFarland]

27 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

It's clear as a bell unless you're deliberately trying to miss it, and no it doesn't. Even if all he said is we have MPS they're useful for voting right implies exactly the same thing.

Once again you're stuck defending the indefensible rather than addressing it. You guys on the left claim that trump supporters are delusional but you guys are a hundred times worse

What he said should be condemned by every Canadian joke or not and you're trying every single twist and turn possible to excuse it

Like one side ignores the fact he said just. I'm strangely it seems like all the neutral people on the internet hear the just

Minutes before you were arguing that this is part of a larger trend and now you're trying to claim it never happened

Do you have any idea how pathetic you look? You can't even say you shouldn't have said that

This is really strange to me. If I could hear it I would tell you. Are you sure about this? It’s certainly not as clear as you are trying to make out. If the word is in there it’s heavily fused with the two words beside it. The report from the Western Standard below does not include ‘just’ in the actual words it says he used.

Edited 12 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[Army Guy]

On 6/22/2026 at 7:14 PM, Barquentine said:

Liar: he did not say "just useful", what's the rest of the conversation before that, context, joking conversation...?

There you go grasping at straws again. You are pathetic!

I mean these are pretty much the same MP's that were in Justin Cabinet....they were part of the worst liberal government ever....Not sure how you could defend these useless Mo rons..

[SpankyMcFarland]

Here is a report of the incident in the Western Standard. Note how the ‘just’ is put outside the quote in the headline and not included at all in the description of the conversation: 

 

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Carney caught on hot mic saying MPs are just ‘useful for votes’

 

Quote

“You just have MPs, and they’re not ... they’re useful for votes,” Carney said, before laughing.

“No, but your model is the British system. If you’re not elected, you couldn’t be the PM,” Plenković responded.

“Yep, yep, yep,” Carney replied, appearing to backtrack.

“Same with all the cabinet members, exactly.”

The exchange quickly circulated online, with critics arguing it reflected a dismissive view of elected MPs.

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/carney-caught-on-hot-mic-saying-mps-are-just-useful-for-votes/74441

I’m beginning to believe my own eco-gay Marxist ears at this stage. 

Edited 12 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

This recording is like a Rorschach test of political allegiance. Apparently, only one side can hear the ‘just’. 

These guys would have been on God's side in the story of Babel.

People trying to ascertain the truth? Blasphemy.

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Even if all he said is we have MPS they're useful for voting right implies exactly the same thing.

We mock your surrender.

[SpankyMcFarland]

I’d be happy for this to be adjudicated by some reasonably sane person. If no “just” exists in the words spoken by the PM then the title of this thread should be changed to reflect that.

[CdnFox]

31 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

This is really strange to me. If I could hear it I would tell you. 

considering your first response was to try and defend him by blaming trends in history or some damn thing you'll understand that I have a difficult time believing that

25 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Here is a report of the incident in the Western Standard. Note how the ‘just’ is put outside the quote in the headline and not included at all in the description of the conversation: 

 

Those aren't "quotes".   that is a single quote which is used for a "quote within a quote" .  as in "Yesterday i 'yelled' at the dog"

My god. you're getting more desperate and pathetic as you go. 

 

23 minutes ago, eyeball said:

These guys would have been on God's side in the story of Babel.

People trying to ascertain the truth? Blasphemy.

Oh look who's back defending the lips with every fiber of his being   "But i'm not a supporter, honest!!" LOL

23 minutes ago, eyeball said:

We mock your surrender.

Only you could define a statement like "You're wrong and even if you were right you'd still be wrong"  as being surrender  

Seeing as you couldn't refute the point I guess you must agree with it

Edited 11 hours ago by CdnFox

[SpankyMcFarland]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

considering your first response was to try and defend him by blaming trends in history or some damn thing you'll understand that I have a difficult time believing that

Those aren't "quotes".   that is a single quote which is used for a "quote within a quote" .  as in "Yesterday i 'yelled' at the dog"

My god. you're getting more desperate and pathetic as you go. 

 

Oh look who's back defending the lips with every fiber of his being   "But i'm not a supporter, honest!!" LOL

Only you could define a statement like "You're wrong and even if you were right you'd still be wrong"  as being surrender  

Seeing as you couldn't refute the point I guess you must agree with it

Did Carney use the word “just” or not? 
 

The point I made was that the word ‘just’ matters a lot in this context.

Edited 11 hours ago by SpankyMcFarland

[CdnFox]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

Did Carney use the word “just” or not? 

He did, but the only reason you were debating that point is because you know that either way it means the same thing and you don't want to talk about that.

How pathetic. Liberals are all the same.

Let me ask you this if you did say just then is what he said morally wrong and an indication that he doesn't value his MPS? Let's clear that off the table first

[SpankyMcFarland]

Just now, CdnFox said:

He did, but the only reason you were debating that point is because you know that either way it means the same thing and you don't want to talk about that.

How pathetic. Liberals are all the same.

Let me ask you this if you did say just then is what he said morally wrong and an indication that he doesn't value his MPS? Let's clear that off the table first

Can anybody else hear ‘just’ here? 

[CdnFox]

Just now, SpankyMcFarland said:

Can anybody else hear ‘just’ here? 

So you couldn't answer the question.

Well that's pretty much an admission that you know you're wrong isn't it.

[SpankyMcFarland]

5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So you couldn't answer the question.

Well that's pretty much an admission that you know you're wrong isn't it.

Can you honestly hear ‘just’ clearly here? Let’s clarify that first. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

If he didn’t use the word “just”, or if there is any uncertainty about it, the title of this thread should be corrected. Fair is fair. 

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Only you could define a statement like "You're wrong and even if you were right you'd still be wrong" 

Where did Carney say that?

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

Can you honestly hear ‘just’ clearly here? Let’s clarify that first. 

I've answered that question. Your dodging my question because you know it proves you're wrong

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Where did Carney say that?

In the segment where he said it

3 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

If he didn’t use the word “just”, or if there is any uncertainty about it, the title of this thread should be corrected. Fair is fair. 

He did use the word and the title comes straight from the news article reporting on it. I didn't make up the title it's a cut and paste

And you still can't answer the question because you know that you're in the wrong here. What a dishonest piece of shit you are