RCMP won’t release China policing pact despite Conservative, NDP pressure

[CdnFox]

RCMP won’t release China policing pact despite Conservative, NDP pressure - National | Globalnews.ca

The RCMP says it won’t release the full agreement it signed with China’s Ministry of Public Security without Beijing agreeing to do so, despite demands from the federal Conservatives and NDP for answers on what it contains.

Robin Percival said the memorandum of understanding signed in January “outlines specific forms of mutual collaboration” on policing, the exchange of information and investigative assistance, but did not give further details.

“The RCMP will not unilaterally make public or share the contents of an MOU with a third party without the concurrence of the other party,” Percival said.

“As such, the RCMP is not releasing the contents of the MOU at this time.”

So the RCMP signed a deal to cooperate with china's secret Police Service who we know has been interfering in Canada and we're not allowed to know the details.

Carney is selling us out. This country is in serious trouble

[WestCanMan]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The RCMP says it won’t release the full agreement it signed with China’s Ministry of Public Security without Beijing agreeing to do so, despite demands from the federal Conservatives and NDP for answers on what it contains.

 

Robin Percival said the memorandum of understanding signed in January “outlines specific forms of mutual collaboration” on policing, the exchange of information and investigative assistance, but did not give further details.

“The RCMP will not unilaterally make public or share the contents of an MOU with a third party without the concurrence of the other party,” Percival said.

“As such, the RCMP is not releasing the contents of the MOU at this time.”

So the RCMP signed a deal to cooperate with china's secret Police Service who we know has been interfering in Canada and we're not allowed to know the details.

Carney is selling us out. This country is in serious trouble

There's a very good reason why the US has backed out of the joint defence board with us, and we will probably be out of the 5 eyes soon too.  

[blackbird]

Considering the history of the CCP involvement in foreign influence it is surprising that the liberals would fall for this.  Liberals have a history of sucking up to them.  Canadians are so gullible and many believe anything Libs tell them.

Edited May 22 by blackbird

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

RCMP won’t release China policing pact despite Conservative, NDP pressure - National | Globalnews.ca

The RCMP says it won’t release the full agreement it signed with China’s Ministry of Public Security without Beijing agreeing to do so, despite demands from the federal Conservatives and NDP for answers on what it contains.

Robin Percival said the memorandum of understanding signed in January “outlines specific forms of mutual collaboration” on policing, the exchange of information and investigative assistance, but did not give further details.

“The RCMP will not unilaterally make public or share the contents of an MOU with a third party without the concurrence of the other party,” Percival said.

“As such, the RCMP is not releasing the contents of the MOU at this time.”

So the RCMP signed a deal to cooperate with china's secret Police Service who we know has been interfering in Canada and we're not allowed to know the details.

Carney is selling us out. This country is in serious trouble

This sell out goes back many years to when Pierre Trudeau (senior) signed an agreement with Chairman Mao around 1970.  Canadians have been asleep ever since.  Pierre was also buddy buddy with Commie Fidel Castro. This is what Canadians vote for.

[CdnFox]

36 minutes ago, blackbird said:

This sell out goes back many years to when Pierre Trudeau (senior) signed an agreement with Chairman Mao around 1970.  Canadians have been asleep ever since.  Pierre was also buddy buddy with Commie Fidel Castro. This is what Canadians vote for.

no, PP wasn't buddy buddy with castro   But even if he was at least castro wasn't trying to directly interfere with or coopt our democracy or sign secret deals with his version of the gestapo. 

There's always been trade and interaction with china. Harper was a little more harsh with them, when they stepped out of line he invited the Dalai lama to visit and basically told them it gets worse from here if you continue.

But since Justin we've been more and more and more pushed into the corner and forced to do whatever they want and now we're signing secret deals with their secret police? what the hell!

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

There's a very good reason why the US has backed out of the joint defence board with us, and we will probably be out of the 5 eyes soon too.  

Well they have to be concerned about it. There's absolutely no reason to believe that every single secret candidate knows isn't being funneled to the Chinese at this point.

And it becomes a trade irritant as well. But what really pisses me off is we signed to deal over this but we didn't even get anything in writing about not having those terrorists put back that they took off temporarily. So we didn't even get it written deal on tariffs but the RCMP has been forced to sign a deal to give them Intel and cooperation

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The RCMP says it won’t release the full agreement it signed with China’s Ministry of Public Security without Beijing agreeing to do so, despite demands from the federal Conservatives and NDP for answers on what it contains.

 

What's with the LPoC and all their top-secret BS now?

Now that they have a majority they just run everything in our country in full secrecy... 

It's like the Libs just finally stopped pretending that this is "some kind of a democracy where one party controls the media", at the same time as they signed a secret policing deal with Beijing.

Are we gonna get China's citizen surveillance technology, for help implementing our social credit system? Is that what this was about?

Is Beijing gonna provide the security at protests here now? Couldn't the Libs get the IRGC's snipers for that?

At what point will our God-damned left4rds finally look around and say "Wait a sec, what's the difference between our democracy and NoKo's democracy?"

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

What's with the LPoC and all their top-secret BS now?

Now that they have a majority they just run everything in our country in full secrecy... 

I think you answered your own question. They've always been corrupt and hid as much as they could But now without opposition getting in their way they don't even try they just put everything under wraps and do whatever they want to do. Whatever they want to do probably isn't very good for the country tho, it'll be what's good for them. 

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It's like the Libs just finally stopped pretending that this is "some kind of a democracy where one party controls the media", at the same time as they signed a secret policing deal with Beijing.

Very much like that yes.

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Are we gonna get China's citizen surveillance technology, for help implementing our social credit system? Is that what this was about?

Probably somewhat.

 

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At what point will our God-damned left4rds finally look around and say "Wait a sec, what's the difference between our democracy and NoKo's democracy?"

About 30 minutes after it's too late. 

Edited May 23 by CdnFox

[Barquentine]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So the RCMP signed a deal to cooperate with china's secret Police Service who we know has been interfering in Canada and we're not allowed to know the details.

Carney is selling us out.

Carney does not run the RCMP.

The RCMP have agreements with a lot of countries on criminal investigations and does not release a lot of the agreements.

Why do you automatically assume the RCMP is stupid? You think they're just handing everything over to the Chinese?

Oh, I forgot - you know more than anybody else about every thing (except your idol Trump, of course).

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Carney does not run the RCMP.

The RCMP generally follows the guidance of the prime minister's office.  

Right sgt pepper?  

This was a deal negotiated by the prime minister's office and signed while the Prime Minister was over negotiating with the Chinese.

If you're going to try and pretend that this has absolutely nothing to do with the government and you're going to embarrass yourself to a degree that's surprising even for you.

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

The RCMP have agreements with a lot of countries on criminal investigations and does not release a lot of the agreements.

Like who. 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Why do you automatically assume the RCMP is stupid?

I assume that the prime minister is stupid. 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

Oh, I forgot - you know more than anybody else about every thing

No, but I definitely know more than you.  Your defense of the indefensible is pathetic. China has been found by our security organizations to be directly interfering with Canadian politics and our police force just signed a deal with their police force and we don't know anything about it. If you needed explain to you why that is wrong then you're nothing more than a liberal doormat

[Legato]

16 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The RCMP generally follows the guidance of the prime minister's office.  

Right sgt pepper?  

This was a deal negotiated by the prime minister's office and signed while the Prime Minister was over negotiating with the Chinese.

If you're going to try and pretend that this has absolutely nothing to do with the government and you're going to embarrass yourself to a degree that's surprising even for you.

Like who. 

I assume that the prime minister is stupid. 

No, but I definitely know more than you.  Your defense of the indefensible is pathetic. China has been found by our security organizations to be directly interfering with Canadian politics and our police force just signed a deal with their police force and we don't know anything about it. If you needed explain to you why that is wrong then you're nothing more than a liberal doormat

Sgt Pepper Lol.

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The RCMP generally follows the guidance of the prime minister's office. 

The head of the RCMP can be fired by the Prime Minister.  They serve at his pleasure. 

They do what the PM says or they're out.

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Like who.

AI
The RCMP has formal law enforcement agreements, such as Memorandums of Understanding (MOUs) and liaison arrangements, with law enforcement agencies in over 60 countries to combat transnational crime.

Core Details of the AgreementThe Objectives: The MOU formally commits both nations to strengthen cooperation, share best practices, exchange investigative information, and coordinate technical training to tackle transnational crime.The Controversy: The Canadian government and the RCMP have kept the exact text of the MOU confidential, citing operational security and inter-agency confidentiality requirements.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and Germany operate under the Canada-Germany Treaty on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters. Signed originally in 1977 and continually updated, this treaty establishes a formal framework for both nations to exchange evidence, locate suspects, and cooperate in joint transnational investigations.

The primary active agreement between the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and France is the In-Flight Security Officer Treaty. The RCMP also maintains ongoing law enforcement and tactical training partnerships with French agencies.

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I assume that the prime minister is stupid.

Your extreme partisanship makes you ridiculous, as usual.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

AI
The RCMP has formal law enforcement agreements, such as Memorandums of Understanding (MOUs) and liaison arrangements, with law enforcement agencies in over 60 countries to combat transnational crime.

One where we don't know the details? LIke.  Who. Name one we have a SECRET arrangement with.

And nowhere does it say they're secret or the details are kept from the public for any of those other 60. 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and Germany operate under the Canada-Germany Treaty on Mutual Assistance in Criminal Matters.

Why yes we do!!!  Here it is, you can read every single word of the text and agreement! Nothing is hidden! We can all see clearly what was agreed to!

View Treaty - Canada.ca

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

The primary active agreement between the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) and France is the In-Flight Security Officer Treaty.

Why yes it is!  HERE'S THE TEXT

View Treaty - Canada.ca

So i can find the signed text of the German agreement, and the French agreement and every other agreement.

So why is it ONLY CHINA that we need a super secret agreement with for the RCMP?!?

As always, you're a dishonest, lying Dick.  we don't have "Secret rcmp" agreements with other countries that I can see, all of the other ones you can look at the text and see what we've agreed to. Except china ,

But you tried to pretend that wasn't true. 

Why do we have a secret RCMP deal with china?

 

[WestCanMan]

On 5/23/2026 at 6:58 AM, Barquentine said:

Carney does not run the RCMP.

😂

[Barquentine]

This is nothing new whether we can read the text or not, which I suspect they will release.

https://www.canada.ca/en/news/archive/2012/02/canada-china-law-enforcement-judicial-cooperation.html

To this end, on February 9, 2012, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Premier Wen Jiabao reaffirmed Canada and China’s intention to strengthen cooperation in combatting transnational crime and repatriating fugitives, and to enhance judicial and law enforcement cooperation.

In June 2010, Prime Minister Harper and Chinese President Hu Jintao witnessed the signing of the Canada-China MOU on Cooperation on Combatting Crime. The MOU aims to facilitate cooperation between the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Chinese Ministry of Public Security.

Close cooperation between Canada and China on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters also led to the prosecution of Ang Li in China for his role in the death of Amanda Zhao in Vancouver.  Discussions between Canadian and Chinese legal experts also facilitated the deportation of economic fugitive Lai Changxing to China in July 2011.

[John Stone]

........... arguably, this is not the time to play politics with China. 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

This is nothing new whether we can read the text or not, which I suspect they will release.

 

This is absolutely new you lying sack of crap. An mou is not an official agreement. Neither side is bound to it.. 

And it absolutely makes a difference as to whether or not you can see the terms of the agreement. What if the terms were "RCMP agrees to ignore any reports of alleged election interference"? We would have absolutely no idea

It's pathetic how desperate you are when you try and claim that a deal that we have absolutely no knowledge of is exactly the same as an agreement in principle that we can read word for word. And no they have said they're not going to release it

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Close cooperation between Canada and China on mutual legal assistance in criminal matters also led to the prosecution of Ang Li in China for his role in the death of Amanda Zhao in Vancouver.  Discussions between Canadian and Chinese legal experts also facilitated the deportation of economic fugitive Lai Changxing to China in July 2011.

You obviously don't have any idea of what China has been doing in Canada.

I recommend this book, although it is expensive.  Perhaps you can find a less expensive used copy or get the kindle book.  Unfortunately a new copy is $38 on Amazon.

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Under Assault: Interference and Espionage in China's Secret War Against Canada

by Dennis Molinaro (Author)  Format: Hardcover

4.7 4.7 out of 5 stars   (39) 

4.4 on Goodreads

FOREWORD BY CHERIE WONG

National security expert Dennis Molinaro reveals the shocking details of Beijing’s five-decades-long effort to influence and interfere in Canadian political life. From cultivating future political leaders at the end of the Cultural Revolution to the foreign-interference scandals that have shaken present-day Ottawa, this definitive book addresses one of the most urgent global issues of our time.   unquote

Considering this, agreeing to any MOU with China is highly questionable.

[Barquentine]

10 hours ago, blackbird said:

You obviously don't have any idea of what China has been doing in Canada.

Yes I do.

 

10 hours ago, blackbird said:

Considering this, agreeing to any MOU with China is highly questionable.

Was it ok when Harper did it?

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

What if the terms were "RCMP agrees to ignore any reports of alleged election interference"?

Are you really that stupid or just so desperate for a 'Gotcha" moment you're fantasizing and clutching at straws?

Harper was signing the same type of MOU years before.

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Neither side is bound to it.. 

Exactly!

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

This is absolutely new you lying sack of crap.

NO it's not. Are you so insecure you have to level schoolyard insults with every post? You have my sympathy. (But not my empathy, though since you guys don't believe in that I guess it doesn't matter.)

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Was it ok when Harper did it?

But harper didn't do it. You dealt with a Chinese but everything was above board no secret arrangements no deals between police agencies with hidden factors

So harper never did it. And if he had it wouldn't be okay. And it's not okay when Carney does it now

 

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Are you really that stupid or just so desperate for a 'Gotcha" moment you're fantasizing and clutching at straws?

So you admit that I'm writing you can't actually address the point I made and have to have a hysterical moment to try and cover that fact? Well fair enough, as long as we both agree the point is valid and obviously you do or you'd have made an argument against it

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Harper was signing the same type of MOU years before.

He never did.If you want to compare anything he actually did sign with what was signed now he would have to be able to read the document which you can't. Also this wasn't a memorandum of understanding this was an agreement

The RCMP has not entered into an mou or released a statement stating that they would like to work more closely with china to resolve international crime. They signed an actual agreement that will have terms and conditions and responsibilities and requirements and we have no idea what it says.

Harper never did anything like that and neither has any other prime minister in our history

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Exactly!

But they are bound to this one. It's not an mou it's an agreement. So under harper they agreed to something that they weren't bound to, under carney the RCMP has signed an actual agreement that they cannot back out of in the same way that they must honor and we don't know what it says

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

NO it's not.

It is absolutely new, it has never been done in our history, nothing like this has ever happened Where our police force signed an agreement with another nation's police force and all of the details are kept secret. That is especially true considering that the nation in question is hostile and not an ally.

This is not an MOU, this is not a deal signed in broad daylight with the public's full understanding, this is nothing like what we've done before. 

This is new.  And it's with China.  And that's a problem

[blackbird]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Yes I do.

 

Was it ok when Harper did it?

No.

[herbie]

3 out of 4 Canadian Political Parties Agree that taking away someone elses rights does not increase your own.

[Goddess]

Important to note regarding Mark Carney’s renewal of a law enforcement agreement with China’s Ministry of Public Security (MPS):

The RCMP maintained a Memorandum of Understanding with the Chinese government’s Ministry of Public Security (MPS), which was in effect until 2021. The “partnership” resulted in MPS officials stonewalling us while precursor chemicals flooded our country.

A document from August of 2023 states that the RCMP did not want to renew the agreement with the MPS after it expired.

“While the RCMP continues to seek ways to mitigate and navigate the current reality of the Canada-China bilateral relationship, in order to progress on law enforcement issues of mutual concern, it does not envision renewing its expired Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the Ministry of Public Security (MPS) in the immediate future.”

[Goddess]

Almost 100% of all fentanyl precursors seized by the CBSA at the border are from China.

So when the US is talking about stemming fentanyl supply… they aren’t talking about pills. They are talking about us getting serious about cracking down on precursors that are slipping in.

Drug precursors the new ’primary threat’ entering Canada as fentanyl imports drop | Radio-Canada.ca

China is laughing at us so hard right now. They don't need boots on the ground to take us over.

They are playing the long game and watching as our society crumbles from within with their help, all while our PM calls them a "strategic partner".