CIA analysis suggests Iran can withstand U.S. naval blockade for months - WaPo

[paxamericana]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Again, War in Iran in service to Netanyahu ambition is NOT to be left alone. AKA you're LYING.

Iran had it coming since 1979 as far as I'm concerned. Protecting the petrol dollar is how we get left alone.

7 minutes ago, John Stone said:

Iran (coup) 1951, Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Balkans,  Greenland, Canada, global tariffs as leverage for political advantage, Venezuela, Columbia, Panama, Mexico, Spain, Puerto Rico, Cuba, Europe in toto, Japan in toto, China - pre WWII.  

left alone? 

History says otherwise in CAPs and UNDERLINED. 

 

That's a misunderstanding of American history. To be left alone you, bring the fight to them at their doorstep not yours. And definitely don’t allow them to sucker punch like lushitania, pearharbor , 9/11. Yeah people might bash Americans for our ways but make no mistake, we will come for you at a time and place of our choosing if you become a threat.

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[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Iran had it coming since 1979 as far as I'm concerned. Protecting the petrol dollar is how we get left alone.

No need for "the petrol dollar" since we're not buying foreign oil according to Trump. 

And using it to assert global hegemony is NOT "left alone." Duh

[paxamericana]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

No need for "the petrol dollar" since we're not buying foreign oil according to Trump. 

And using it to assert global hegemony is NOT "left alone." Duh

That's retarded, what you want to shoot everyone? If you don't then force them to use the petrol dollar and threaten banking access. That's how you deter .

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

That's retarded, what you want to shoot everyone?

^FALSE DICHOTOMY from an lDIOT.

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

If you don't then force them to use the petrol dollar and threaten banking access. That's how you deter .

US doesn't have that power anymore.

[paxamericana]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

FALSE DICHOTOMY

Use the two brain cell you got, every other economic leverage that we have tried before ended with us having to go shoot them across the ocean, island to island, continent to continent. The petrol dollar was the least costly way of imposing cost and deterrence. Being left alone means you're going to have to go smash dumb assh0les face in from time to time okay. That's what a credible deterrence mean. Leaving them alone doesn't mean they'll leave you alone. We got bit every single time we went full isolationist. Both world wars are a reminder, never mind the fact that nukes are in play and if nothing else they'll try to shoot their nukes across the ocean. That's why we don't allow other countries to go nuclear.

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

US doesn't have that power anymore.

As long as we're a major producer of oil and/or consumer, there will always be a need for the petrol dollar. 

If you want to be a pushover deadbeat, go live in Canada like @John Stone

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[John Stone]

11 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Use the two brain cell you got, every other economic leverage that we have tried before ended with us having to go shoot them across the ocean, island to island, continent to continent. The petrol dollar was the least costly way of imposing cost and deterrence. Being left alone means you're going to have to go smash dumb assh0les face in from time to time okay. That's what a credible deterrence mean. Leaving them alone doesn't mean they'll leave you alone. We got bit every single time we went full isolationist. Both world wars are a reminder, never mind the fact that nukes are in play and if nothing else they'll try to shoot their nukes across the ocean. That's why we don't allow other countries to go nuclear.

As long as we're a major producer of oil and/or consumer, there will always be a need for the petrol dollar. 

If you want to be a pushover deadbeat, go live in Canada like @John Stone

In 1974, Saudi Arabia struck a deal with the United States to price its oil sales in dollars - other country's followed. Oil revenues flowed back into U.S. treasuries, stocks, and real estate—giving America cheap financing and underpinning the dollar’s reserve‐currency status – a country needed a USD reserve to pay for its oil.

The so-called 'Petrodollar" was born. 

However, in 2025, the Saud’s chose not to renew the agreement. The requirement that buyers pay only in dollars quietly lapsed. Across markets, the world’s largest oil exporter will accept other currencies. This move severs an invisible safety net that has buffered U.S. deficits for half a century.

The impact along with an ever-increasing decline in oil demand will likely have a severe impact on the U.S.......... going forward.

The U.S.  debt now stands at around a staggering  40 trillion bucks -140 percent over the country’s GDP – by 2050 it is projected to grow to around 90 trillion!

Pundits agree that economics, particularly spending on defense,  was the primary reason the USSR collapsed.

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[paxamericana]

19 minutes ago, John Stone said:

However, in 2025, the Saud’s chose not to renew the agreement. The requirement that buyers pay only in dollars quietly lapsed. Across markets, the world’s largest oil exporter will accept other currencies. This move severs an invisible safety net that has buffered U.S. deficits for half a century.

The impact along with an ever-increasing decline in oil demand will likely have a severe impact on the U.S.......... going forward.

Say wut? Not if we destroy the Middle East oil production and force everyone to buy from America petrol dollar producer . What did you think we didn’t consider that?

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[John Stone]

8 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Say wut? Not if we destroy the Middle East oil production and force everyone to buy from America petrol dollar producer . What did you think we didn’t consider that?

......... silly me, the U.S. strategy is obvious - thanks! 😅

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[Nationalist]

22 hours ago, User said:

They don’t. 

Hmmm...it sure looks like they do.

https://www.livingintheair.org/2024/08/control-mechanisms-how-israel-runs.html?m=1

22 hours ago, User said:

No… they suffer because of Iran. If you want to be a “Nationalist” and hide in your own country, do so, you don’t get to whine about the world anymore. 

Lol...well...unfortunately for you...yes I do...and will.

Iran is not a threat to continental US. It never has been. What happened to 'no more forever wars'? What happened to 'the US should not police the world'?

Netanyahu...that's what happened.  The filthy Zionist has Trump by the short and curries and its time this folly ended.

Edited May 9 by Nationalist

[paxamericana]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

......... silly me, the U.S. strategy is obvious - thanks! 😅

And make it look like Iran did it. What did you think we are amateur? Only by being 51st can you too become a stable genius mmmkay.

Edited May 9 by paxamericana

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Hmmm...it sure looks like they do.

https://www.livingintheair.org/2024/08/control-mechanisms-how-israel-runs.html?m=1

Lol...well...unfortunately for you...yes I do...and will.

Iran is not a threat to continental US. It never has been. What happened to 'no more forever wars'? What happened to 'the US should not police the world'?

Netanyahu...that's what happened.  The filthy Zionist has Trump by the short and curries and its time this folly ended.

Not interested in your link spamming to others equally stupid assertions.

You said Israel has a vote in America, they do not. 
 

You claim to be a Nationalist not wanting to be involved in world affairs and arguing the same for America and then speak out of both sides of your mouth when convenient wanting to be involved in world affairs. 
 

Go worry about Canada. The US will deal with Iran and their threat to the world and our strategic interests in the region. 
 

[John Johnston]

And the needless and unnecessary American Operation Cluster F@ck is going so well. 

[User]

46 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

And the needless and unnecessary American Operation Cluster F@ck is going so well. 

It is. 
 

We have been stopping Iranian bound shipping. 
 

I suppose you want Iran to keep the Straight closed and/or impose extortions on ships having to pay to get through?

 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, User said:

Not interested in your link spamming to others equally stupid assertions.

You said Israel has a vote in America, they do not. 
 

You claim to be a Nationalist not wanting to be involved in world affairs and arguing the same for America and then speak out of both sides of your mouth when convenient wanting to be involved in world affairs. 
 

Go worry about Canada. The US will deal with Iran and their threat to the world and our strategic interests in the region. 
 

When did I ever say I'm bot interested in world affairs?

Strategic interests...drive the economy down? This was stupid. A lark. Politically inept. Trump would have gained more politically had he told Isreal they'd be on their own.

It's an expense the economy didn't need.

 

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, paxamericana said:

Use the two brain cell you got, every other economic leverage that we have tried before ended with us having to go shoot them across the ocean, island to island, continent to continent. The petrol dollar was the least costly way of imposing cost and deterrence. Being left alone means you're going to have to go smash dumb assh0les face in from time to time okay. That's what a credible deterrence mean. Leaving them alone doesn't mean they'll leave you alone. We got bit every single time we went full isolationist. Both world wars are a reminder,

NO REASON to believe your ^lDIOTIC OPINIONS.

History proves that at least WWII with Japan was PROVOKED by US hegemony.

Quote

The argument that World War II between the United States and Japan was provoked by U.S. hegemony is a recognized viewpoint in historical, revisionist, and academic debates, often centered on the economic pressures placed on Japan before the attack on Pearl Harbor. [1, 2, 3]

While some scholars and observers emphasize the U.S. role, others focus on Japan's prior expansionist aggression in China, arguing the U.S. response was a justified reaction to violations of international order, rather than a mere pursuit of hegemony. [1, 2, 3]

Key Perspectives on Provocation

• Economic Warfare & Embargoes: Proponents of this view argue that the U.S. government implemented increasingly strict economic sanctions designed to limit Japanese military expansion, including restricting aviation fuel and scrap iron in 1940 and finally freezing Japanese assets in July 1941.
• The "Oil Stranglehold": By cutting off nearly 94% of Japan's oil supply, the U.S. effectively placed Japan on a countdown to economic collapse, leaving them with the choice of abandoning their war in China or seizing oil resources in the Dutch East Indies. This was seen in Tokyo as an act of war, forcing a "Hail Mary" move to attack.
• "Back Door to War" Theory: Some historians suggest that President Franklin D. Roosevelt knew of the likely Japanese attack but did not stop it, allowing a direct provocation to bring a reluctant U.S. public into World War II.
• U.S. Hegemony and Regional Interests: From this perspective, the U.S. was defending its own colonial interests in the Pacific (Philippines) and the Open Door policy in China, which contradicted Japan's ambition for a "Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere"

18 hours ago, paxamericana said:

never mind the fact that nukes are in play and if nothing else they'll try to shoot their nukes across the ocean. That's why we don't allow other countries to go nuclear.

As long as we're a major producer of oil and/or consumer, there will always be a need for the petrol dollar. 

If you want to be a pushover deadbeat, go live in Canada like @John Stone

MAD has worked for 80 years. And you're a FOOL if you believe "we don't allow other countries to go nuclear."

There is a LONG LIST of those WHO HAVE.

[User]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

When did I ever say I'm bot interested in world affairs?

Strategic interests...drive the economy down? This was stupid. A lark. Politically inept. Trump would have gained more politically had he told Isreal they'd be on their own.

It's an expense the economy didn't need.

 

It’s your usual schtick, to oppose helping Israel, or Ukraine, or anyone that it’s not your business or country.

Well, Iran and America are not your business either. 
 

Go worry about Canada. 

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, User said:

It’s your usual schtick, to oppose helping Israel, or Ukraine, or anyone that it’s not your business or country.

Well, Iran and America are not your business either. 
 

Go worry about Canada. 

Lol...no.

[User]

8 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...no.

Oh my! The “Nationalist” who isn’t so nationalist anymore. 

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Oh my! The “Nationalist” who isn’t so nationalist anymore. 

Lol...do you really not understand Nationalism?

[User]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...do you really not understand Nationalism?

Your positions here are the issue. 

 

[CdnFox]

On 5/8/2026 at 6:39 AM, John Johnston said:

Now I feel bad for ragging on Bush as much as I did back in the day. Goes to show, gotta pace yourself, there will always be a bigging A hole in waiting.

Sorry George.

Oh i'm sure you'll say the same thing about the next one  

No matter WHAT republican gets to be president, he's always the worst person ever according to the democrats  

 

[CdnFox]

Frankly I'm not really sure why this is particularly interesting news.

First off the fact that they can potentially last that long doesn't mean that they want to or that they will. I assume that at that point their country will be in pretty severe straights and they may not want it to go to that point.

Secondly so what? If it takes three or four months and they finally cave and give trump what he wants then trump will have a big victory just before the midterms. As much as it will be fiscally damaging around the world in the meantime for him it has the potential to be a net bounce.

I mean if it was felt that they could hang out for a year or two then that would be a very different story. But a few more months to survivable and even though it will probably do a lot of damage to the world economy it probably won't do all that much damage to trump specifically, especially if he prepares for it and they republicans make sure gas companies know they better damn well drop their price as soon as the conflict is over rather than waiting.

I don't think this is quite the negative story that the lp thought it was

[WestCanMan]

On 5/7/2026 at 12:45 PM, User said:

Anonymous source vs the entire public-facing administration... 

• Even when there are 51 of them, and they all show their faces and sign their names, sometimes they're lying.
• The FBI, as in, the very top 4 people in the FBI when Comey was there, all signed off on FISA warrant applications that contained fabricated evidence that they knew about.
• And yeah, anonymous source just means "even less reliable than 'polling data'". 

[WestCanMan]

When they say that "Iran can withstand a U.S. naval blockade for months" what they mean is that 'IRGC elites can chill out in their West Vancouver homes and watch Iranian peons starve to death for months'.

The tough part for the IRGC is that, as people get hungrier, they get angrier. And the Iranian people started off angry. 

Normal citizens lack the viciousness and inhumanity of muslim dictators, so they can be cowed, but anyone who is hungry will fight like the 3rd monkey. Keeping the Iranan civilian population down is gonna get harder and harder.

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, User said:

Your positions here are the issue. 

 

User...Trump had all his ducks in a row. The border was closed. Illegals were being expelled. The economy was bursting at the seems. Fuel prices were dropping. Then he fcked all the progress up by letting Netanyahu talk him into attacking Iran. A country that is a threat to Isreal, but not the USA 

Edited May 10 by Nationalist