CDC will not publish report showing COVID vaccine effectiveness

[Deluge]

Just now, User said:

1. I responded to your comment where you continued to act like a child. 

This is a public forum. You espouse ignorant and false things… be prepared to have people respond and call you out for it.

2. Once again, you kept asking me for a rebuttal and this is a question. 
 

I don’t think the CDC is still advising people to mask or social distance anymore. 

1. And you still refuse to answer the question. You either agree or disagree, thats's it. Can you do that? WILL you do that?

2. Try to follow me here. If you answer the question and your answer is "disagree" then you proceed with a rebuttal. Do you understand that? CAN you understand that? 

[User]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I wish I could remember the name of the guy on the FDA ACIP panel on whether to mandate the shots for children said on camera, "We'll never know the effects until we give them the shots."

Then 2 of them quit over the decision.

I posted all about it at the time because medical ethics since time immemorial has been that we don't experiment on pregnant women and children.  We threw medical ethics out the window to experiment.

First, not talking about any mandates here, I don’t support those and didn’t support what Biden did to try to compel them either.

Second, the vaccines had been through normal testing and productions methods, although obviously rushed with some emergency authorizations… because millions were dying. 
 

25 minutes ago, Goddess said:

They reduced it 98% before the vaccine.

No, they certainly did not. 

[User]

21 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. And you still refuse to answer the question. You either agree or disagree, thats's it. Can you do that? WILL you do that?

2. Try to follow me here. If you answer the question and your answer is "disagree" then you proceed with a rebuttal. Do you understand that? CAN you understand that? 

Agree or disagree with what? What is it you want me to rebuttal? 

[Deluge]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Agree or disagree with what? What is it you want me to rebuttal? 

Rebut, not rebuttal. "What do you want me to rebut?". 

I'm sorry, robouser, but I'm not going down your rabbit hole. If you're too lazy to answer or too weak and prideful to answer then you admit that you have no idea what in the f*ck you are talking about. 

Edited April 29 by Deluge

[User]

3 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Rebut, not rebuttal. "What do you want me to rebut?". 

I'm sorry, robouser, but I'm not going down your rabbit hole. If you're too lazy to answer or too weak and prideful to answer then you admit that you have no idea what in the f*ck you are talking about. 

You are the one who kept asking me to rebut a question, never giving me something to actually rebut.

It you want to move on… no loss. 

Not my fault you can’t articulate an actual point. 

[Deluge]

Just now, User said:

You are the one who kept asking me to rebut a question, never giving me something to actually rebut.

It you want to move on… no loss. 

Not my fault you can’t articulate an actual point. 

No, I'm always here, waiting for the answer. I'll always be here.... You just need to scroll back through and find it. I've asked you multiple times. 

There's no rush. take your time.  

[User]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

No, I'm always here, waiting for the answer. I'll always be here.... You just need to scroll back through and find it. I've asked you multiple times. 

There's no rush. take your time.  

So which is it? You want to keep crying about this or you going to finally post something for me to rebut? 

[Deluge]

Just now, User said:

So which is it? You want to keep crying about this or you going to finally post something for me to rebut? 

You're dodging again. Dodging and running and hiding and dodging again. Don't be a p*ssy. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, Deluge said:

You're dodging again. Dodging and running and hiding and dodging again. Don't be a p*ssy. 

I’m not dodging anything.

Not sure how to dumb this down more for you.

You keep asking me to rebut something but then never give me anything to rebut.

[Goddess]

34 minutes ago, User said:

the vaccines had been through normal testing and productions methods

They were not.

Even Pfizer had admitted that.  The contracts state it.  Lightbound, who was our health minister at the time, testified to this in committee.

The production methods used for the trials was totally different from the one that was marketed.

My gawd, this is all proven.  In committees, in Senate, in Congress, in the EU parliament, in documentation, in CDC and FDA ACIP meeting transcripts.

[User]

9 minutes ago, Goddess said:

They were not.

Even Pfizer had admitted that.  The contracts state it.  Lightbound, who was our health minister at the time, testified to this in committee.

The production methods used for the trials was totally different from the one that was marketed.

My gawd, this is all proven.  In committees, in Senate, in Congress, in the EU parliament, in documentation, in CDC and FDA ACIP meeting transcripts.

Sigh…

There is nothing nefarious going on here. Obviously to scale up production, different methods used, but comparable. Not “totally different”

What exactly is it you think is proven here?

 

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, User said:

Obviously to scale up production, different methods used, but comparable. Not “totally different”

What method was used in the trials and what method was marketed?  And don't quickly google something.

You're acting like you are expert in production methods of the covid jabs, so you must know this off the top of your head.

Edited April 29 by Goddess

[User]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

What method was used in the trials and what method was marketed?  And don't quickly google something.

You're acting like you are expert in production methods of the covid jabs, so you must know this off the top of your head.

You are not an expert either. This was your point, if you have one, you make it. 

[Goddess]

In the Senate hearings right now, they just showed this chart from VAERS

The argument has always been that the increase in vaccine deaths is because "we've administered billions of doses".

But calculated at "rates of death per dose compared to the flu injections", the covid injection has a 55X increase.

I'm still watching the hearings.

[User]

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

In the Senate hearings right now, they just showed this chart from VAERS

OK, and?

5 hours ago, Goddess said:

The argument has always been that the increase in vaccine deaths is because "we've administered billions of doses".

But calculated at "rates of death per dose compared to the flu injections", the covid injection has a 55X increase.

I'm still watching the hearings.

VAERS is not a database of vaccine deaths...

 

[Goddess]

15 hours ago, User said:

VAERS is not a database of vaccine deaths...

In spite of the accepted reality that VAERS underreports by 10X, it tracks them, obviously.

I'm not getting drawn into this circular argument with you again.

You:  VAERS is useless as a database.

Me:  Why would they unleash an experimental vaccine on the population and not have a way of tracking adverse events?

You:  That's what VAERS is for.

Me:  OK.  Here's some stats from VAERS.

You:  VAERS is a useless database.

Repeat ad nauseum.

[User]

6 minutes ago, Goddess said:

In spite of the accepted reality that VAERS underreports by 10X, it tracks them, obviously.

I'm not getting drawn into this circular argument with you again.

You:  VAERS is useless as a database.

Me:  Why would they unleash an experimental vaccine on the population and not have a way of tracking adverse events?

You:  That's what VAERS is for.

Me:  OK.  Here's some stats from VAERS.

You:  VAERS is a useless database.

Repeat ad nauseum.

No, once again, you have to make up crap to argue against.

I didn’t say VAERS was useless. I clearly said VAERS was not a database of vaccine deaths. It isn’t. 
 

Instead of responding directly and earnestly to that, you have to do this game. 

[robosmith]

On 4/29/2026 at 2:43 PM, Goddess said:

In the Senate hearings right now, they just showed this chart from VAERS

The argument has always been that the increase in vaccine deaths is because "we've administered billions of doses".

But calculated at "rates of death per dose compared to the flu injections", the covid injection has a 55X increase.

I'm still watching the hearings.

Of course you know that NONE of the VAERS reports are verified.

That means they are AFFECTED by political influence.

[Deluge]

On 4/29/2026 at 1:42 PM, User said:

I’m not dodging anything.

Not sure how to dumb this down more for you.

You keep asking me to rebut something but then never give me anything to rebut.

That's all you do is dodge. You either dodge, or runaway, or prance, or skip, or whistle past the grave yard; anything to avoid a loss. 

You're weak. 

[User]

8 minutes ago, Deluge said:

That's all you do is dodge. You either dodge, or runaway, or prance, or skip, or whistle past the grave yard; anything to avoid a loss. 

You're weak. 

So…. Once again, you got nothing. Just acting like the child you are.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, User said:

So…. Once again, you got nothing. Just acting like the child you are.

I'm not the one running from the question. I have everything.  

[User]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

I'm not the one running from the question. I have everything.  

Every step of the way you have pushed two faced nonsense garbage I’ve responded to, questions I’ve answered, and then you wanted me to rebut a question. 
 

I can’t rebut a question. 
 

So what question is it you think I’m hiding from? 

[Deluge]

21 minutes ago, User said:

1. Every step of the way you have pushed two faced nonsense garbage I’ve responded to, questions I’ve answered, and then you wanted me to rebut a question. 
 

2. I can’t rebut a question. 
 

3. So what question is it you think I’m hiding from? 

1. We've already covered this. I am an anti-vaxxer and you are a vaxx pusher. Why are you still crying? 

2. You can answer a question, so how about it? 

3. The one the gets further & further in your rearview mirror.  

Edited May 1 by Deluge

[User]

17 minutes ago, Deluge said:

1. We've already covered this. I am an anti-vaxxer and you are a vaxx pusher. Why are you still crying? 

2. You can answer a question, so how about it? 

3. The one the gets further & further in your rearview mirror.  

You are the one who keeps this stupidity going. 
 

Let’s see the question. 

[Deluge]

39 minutes ago, User said:

You are the one who keeps this stupidity going. 
 

Let’s see the question. 

You had your chance, professor, but you f*cked that up. Now you have to go get it. Or don't. I'll be here either way.