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[User]

42 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Hey...great news!

With the new PM in Hungary, EU funds will flow to The Green T-Shirt's bank account again. Whoopie. 

This war is laughable now. The Ukrainians are using only drones now in some places apparently. 

But...I'm sure you'll snatch victory from defeat somehow.

Um… EU funds were already going to Ukraine. It’s amazing how they all want to help a nation fight off Russian aggression like that. 
 

You mock drone use as if that is a bad thing. Good for them, if they are able to defeat Russian advances with cheap drone tech. 
 

It isn’t my.victory or defeat and you are completely running from the point. That you are praising a man who has been wrong repeatedly about Ukraine and making assertions you can’t back up.

 

[User]

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Zelensky should be taken out and f'ing shot.

He has been throwing lives away for years now, just to gain zero square inches of territory back. 

But of course you have no criticism for how many more lives Russia has thrown into the meat grinder for years to gain paltry amounts of territory….

 

[Nationalist]

20 minutes ago, User said:

Um… EU funds were already going to Ukraine. It’s amazing how they all want to help a nation fight off Russian aggression like that. 
 

You mock drone use as if that is a bad thing. Good for them, if they are able to defeat Russian advances with cheap drone tech. 
 

It isn’t my.victory or defeat and you are completely running from the point. That you are praising a man who has been wrong repeatedly about Ukraine and making assertions you can’t back up.

 

No he hasn't been wrong. In fact, when this ends, he'll be proven correct.

So will I...BTW...

[User]

5 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

No he hasn't been wrong. In fact, when this ends, he'll be proven correct.

So will I...BTW...

He has claimed numerous times already that Ukraines demise was imminent.

He was already wrong, repeatedly.

That doesn’t change anything in that you have made an assertion about Turkey providing missiles to Iran and you have nothing to back that up. 

I’m still waiting for the example of this attack on Russian stuff you brought up. 

Every step of the way you make these assertions and then run from them when challenged throwing all his other crap at the wall.

 

[WestCanMan]

23 minutes ago, User said:

But of course you have no criticism for how many more lives Russia has thrown into the meat grinder for years to gain paltry amounts of territory….

NATO is at Russia's border.

When I joined the military, we talked about what we would do when Ivan and Igor came over the hill, not about how glorious it would be to send our armies to Russia. 

If Russia loses one inch, they can nuke that battle line in Ukraine for all I care. 

Ukraine is a bridge too far for us. We are not the good guys in this war.

[Nationalist]

11 minutes ago, User said:

He has claimed numerous times already that Ukraines demise was imminent.

He was already wrong, repeatedly.

That doesn’t change anything in that you have made an assertion about Turkey providing missiles to Iran and you have nothing to back that up. 

I’m still waiting for the example of this attack on Russian stuff you brought up. 

Every step of the way you make these assertions and then run from them when challenged throwing all his other crap at the wall.

 

Russian stuff...and people.

https://www.jfeed.com/news-world/russia-evacuates-nuclear-experts-iran

 

[User]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

NATO is at Russia's border.

When I joined the military, we talked about what we would do when Ivan and Igor came over the hill, not about how glorious it would be to send our armies to Russia. 

If Russia loses one inch, they can nuke that battle line in Ukraine for all I care. 

Ukraine is a bridge too far for us. We are not the good guys in this war.

I swear, you just ignore everything we have ever discussed and pretend like you are starting right back at square one with your inane claims that I have already debunked numerous times. 

So what if NATO is at Russia's border? They have been there for a long time before Ukraine. NATO is a defensive alliance. They only threat they pose to Russia is being unified in defending against a Russian attack. 

NATO is not sending its armies to Russia. 

Russia lost an inch a long time ago already. I know you don't care about Ukraine, as you have been quite clear you side with Russia as you push their ignorant propaganda and support their war. 

 

[User]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Russian stuff...and people.

https://www.jfeed.com/news-world/russia-evacuates-nuclear-experts-iran

 

You claimed:

"Isreal bombed a Russian depot and their response was rather stern."

This article doesn't say anything about Israel bombing a Russian depot or anything Russian. It is about how Russians were near some bombings IN IRAN. 

 

[Nationalist]

22 minutes ago, User said:

I swear, you just ignore everything we have ever discussed and pretend like you are starting right back at square one with your inane claims that I have already debunked numerous times. 

So what if NATO is at Russia's border? They have been there for a long time before Ukraine. NATO is a defensive alliance. They only threat they pose to Russia is being unified in defending against a Russian attack. 

NATO is not sending its armies to Russia. 

Russia lost an inch a long time ago already. I know you don't care about Ukraine, as you have been quite clear you side with Russia as you push their ignorant propaganda and support their war. 

 

Yes. So you keep saying.

Yet...

https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554

Nothing erases history.

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, User said:

I swear, you just ignore everything we have ever discussed and pretend like you are starting right back at square one with your inane claims that I have already debunked numerous times. 

I swear that you just lack the capacity to understand geopolitics.

Did you ever play Risk before? Monopoly? 

What happens when you own all the countries? Or all the lots? 

FYI Ukraine being in NATO doesn't just pose a physical threat, it's also an economic blow to Russia to lose it to NATO. It's one less country to trade with, and one more to trade with Europe and the US. One less country that Russia can at least have a mutual defence pact with.

It's a big deal if you have 13 countries to trade with instead of 3. And Ukraine's economy is huge.

Iran trades with China, Brazil, Russia etc... because countries need trading partners.

BUT, it's still a MASSIVE thorn in Russia's side that Ukraine shares thousands of km of border with them and Belorussia. And now Belorussia is surrounded. What about when that domino falls?

Sure, it sucked when the puny countries got taken over by NATO, but they weren't worth fighting for. Eastern Ukraine is. 

Putin can't afford to have NATO in Ukraine. And F Ukraine. They're a bad neighbour. 

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NATO is a defensive alliance.

BS. 

Are the Democrats a pro-USA party? I mean, they definitely should be, they all live there, so how could they not? But they clearly aren't. 

And just like the dems aren't pro-USA anymore, NATO won't be defensive for twenty generations. Or 6 generations. Humans aren't like that.

If you look at how slimy and evil people like Schumer and Pelosi are, it's easy to see how the US can't be trusted. 

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I know you don't care about Ukraine,

Not at all.

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as you have been quite clear you side with Russia as you push their ignorant propaganda and support their war. 

I support the right of Iranian people to serve in the Iranian army to defend their people. If Gaza had an army that wasn't dedicated to genocide I would support them as well.

I support any soldier anywhere that is defending their home. But Russia is the country that's getting backed into a corner here. I understand their need to fight. Ukrainians can go to hell - they're shitty neighbours. 

[User]

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. So you keep saying.

Yet...

https://www.newsweek.com/us-nato-helped-trigger-ukraine-war-its-not-siding-putin-admit-it-opinion-1685554

Nothing erases history.

Yeah, read the first sentence of that OPINION:

Vladimir Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine is a monstrous act of aggression that has plunged the world into a perilous situation. By any reasonable standard, his move was an over-the-top response to any Ukrainian or NATO provocations. 

[Nationalist]

4 minutes ago, User said:

You claimed:

"Isreal bombed a Russian depot and their response was rather stern."

This article doesn't say anything about Israel bombing a Russian depot or anything Russian. It is about how Russians were near some bombings IN IRAN. 

 

I dont flag-waive when my country is doing stupid shit. That's called being realistic. 

If you wanna squabble, do it with robo-dweeb or HoeDaddy. The fact is, this "war" was a big mistake and may well cause the Republicans to lose both houses in November.

5 minutes ago, User said:

Yeah, read the first sentence of that OPINION:

Vladimir Putin's decision to launch a full-scale invasion of Ukraine is a monstrous act of aggression that has plunged the world into a perilous situation. By any reasonable standard, his move was an over-the-top response to any Ukrainian or NATO provocations. 

Try the whole article.

[WestCanMan]

It was brilliant for Trump to let the Iranian blockade go for so long.

All the haters were pumping up the blockade, cheering for the apparent Iranian victory. CNN was doing it. CBC was doing it. The Dems were doing it. Even environmentalists like @cougar were saying that "shooting rockets at tankers is ok if Iran needs to do it to win".

So now all the Trump/USA haters condoned the "blocked strait" game for weeks, they declared it the best game ever, and... Trump is winning it now 🤣

He is grinding Iran into dust at this game.  

Now what, left4rds?

[User]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I dont flag-waive when my country is doing stupid shit. That's called being realistic. 

If you wanna squabble, do it with robo-dweeb or HoeDaddy. The fact is, this "war" was a big mistake and may well cause the Republicans to lose both houses in November.

What are you talking about?

Once again, you made an assertion about Israel attacking Russia. You have twice now posted things that didn't support that claim as if it did. 

Just admit you were wrong, stop trying to post crap like it proves your claim when it doesn't. 

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Try the whole article.

How about you post the relevant part you think supports your claims, if they exist. I posted the parts that clearly did not. 

 

[User]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I swear that you just lack the capacity to understand geopolitics.

Did you ever play Risk before? Monopoly? 

What happens when you own all the countries? Or all the lots? 

This is not a game where the point is to "win" by completely controlling the board. If that were the case, we would be in all out war against Russia to take them out. 

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI Ukraine being in NATO doesn't just pose a physical threat, it's also an economic blow to Russia to lose it to NATO. It's one less country to trade with, and one more to trade with Europe and the US. One less country that Russia can at least have a mutual defence pact with.

It's a big deal if you have 13 countries to trade with instead of 3. And Ukraine's economy is huge.

Please elaborate on why Ukraine joining NATO, if that ever happened, which was not a forgone conclusion or even close to happening, would somehow stop Russia from trading with them.

You are just making crazy shit up. 

Russia had been trading with NATO countries before the war. 

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

BUT, it's still a MASSIVE thorn in Russia's side that Ukraine shares thousands of km of border with them and Belorussia. And now Belorussia is surrounded. What about when that domino falls?

Nothing is falling. NATO is not the Soviet Union invading and taking over countries. 

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Sure, it sucked when the puny countries got taken over by NATO, but they weren't worth fighting for. Eastern Ukraine is. 

Putin can't afford to have NATO in Ukraine. And F Ukraine. They're a bad neighbour. 

NATO did not "take them over"

Even if Ukraine joined NATO... guess what happens to the Russian border? Nothing. 

Just like nothing has happened along the rest of the borders with NATO. 

NATO is a defensive alliance. The only threat they pose to Russia is if Russia attacks them. 

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

BS. 

Are the Democrats a pro-USA party? I mean, they definitely should be, they all live there, so how could they not? But they clearly aren't. 

And just like the dems aren't pro-USA anymore, NATO won't be defensive for twenty generations. Or 6 generations. Humans aren't like that.

If you look at how slimy and evil people like Schumer and Pelosi are, it's easy to see how the US can't be trusted. 

Just because you say BS doesn't make it so. Declaring that sometime in the future NATO wouldn't be doesn't disprove that they are not right now. 

You are just an outright Russian supporter. You lie about NATO, you criticize the US and NATO, you push Russian propaganda. Why don't you get it over with and just go live in Russia and denounce your Canadian citizenship?

 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, User said:

What are you talking about?

Once again, you made an assertion about Israel attacking Russia. You have twice now posted things that didn't support that claim as if it did. 

Just admit you were wrong, stop trying to post crap like it proves your claim when it doesn't. 

How about you post the relevant part you think supports your claims, if they exist. I posted the parts that clearly did not. 

 

Yes, it appears I was wrong about a direct attack on a Russian base. Does that change anything? Not really.

As to the article...

"However, that conclusion is different from saying that there were no provocations, as far too many policymakers and pundits in the West are doing now.

It has become especially fashionable in such circles to insist that NATO's expansion to Russia's border was in no way responsible for the current Ukraine crisis. Many dismiss all arguments to the contrary as "echoing Putin's talking points," "siding with Putin," or circulating Russian propaganda and "disinformation." Leaving aside the ugly miasma of McCarthyism enveloping such allegations, the underlying argument is factually wrong.

Russian leaders and several Western policy experts were warning more than two decades ago that NATO expansion would turn out badly—ending in a new cold war with Russia at best, and a hot one at worst. Obviously, they were not "echoing" Putin or anyone else. George Kennan, the intellectual architect of America's containment policy during the Cold War, perceptively warned in a May 2, 1998 New York Times interview what NATO's move eastward would set in motion. "I think it is the beginning of a new cold war," he stated. "I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake.""

And, as it turns out, it was a tragic mistake. Just ask all the widows and mother's of dead Ukrainian soldiers.

 

 

Edited April 15 by Nationalist

[Hodad]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I swear that you just lack the capacity to understand geopolitics.

Did you ever play Risk before? Monopoly? 

What happens when you own all the countries? Or all the lots? 

FYI Ukraine being in NATO doesn't just pose a physical threat, it's also an economic blow to Russia to lose it to NATO. It's one less country to trade with, and one more to trade with Europe and the US. One less country that Russia can at least have a mutual defence pact with.

It's a big deal if you have 13 countries to trade with instead of 3. And Ukraine's economy is huge.

Iran trades with China, Brazil, Russia etc... because countries need trading partners.

BUT, it's still a MASSIVE thorn in Russia's side that Ukraine shares thousands of km of border with them and Belorussia. And now Belorussia is surrounded. What about when that domino falls?

Sure, it sucked when the puny countries got taken over by NATO, but they weren't worth fighting for. Eastern Ukraine is. 

Putin can't afford to have NATO in Ukraine. And F Ukraine. They're a bad neighbour. 

BS. 

Are the Democrats a pro-USA party? I mean, they definitely should be, they all live there, so how could they not? But they clearly aren't. 

And just like the dems aren't pro-USA anymore, NATO won't be defensive for twenty generations. Or 6 generations. Humans aren't like that.

If you look at how slimy and evil people like Schumer and Pelosi are, it's easy to see how the US can't be trusted. 

Not at all.

I support the right of Iranian people to serve in the Iranian army to defend their people. If Gaza had an army that wasn't dedicated to genocide I would support them as well.

I support any soldier anywhere that is defending their home. But Russia is the country that's getting backed into a corner here. I understand their need to fight. Ukrainians can go to hell - they're shitty neighbours. 

Look, a massive a-hole discovers empathy for the very first time... and employs it to empathize with another massive a-hole. 

Poor Putin. People don't want to ally themselves with the murderous, manipulative, authoritarian, kleptocrat? Say it ain't so? 

But he deserves allies! It doesn't matter what other countries want or what kind of governments they want. Putin deserves them. And if they don't want to be friends with him, he should invade them. And then he's the good guy in that scenario. 

Holy shit, you are delusional. 

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, User said:

Please elaborate on why Ukraine joining NATO, if that ever happened, which was not a forgone conclusion or even close to happening, would somehow stop Russia from trading with them.

These two comments entirely display your knowledge of the situation...

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Russia had been trading with NATO countries before the war. 

[WestCanMan]

28 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Look, a massive a-hole

Yeah, we know.

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Poor Putin.

Not "Poor Putin", a-hole. There are 154M people in Russia and they are not benefitting from NATO's war. 

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People don't want to ally themselves with the murderous, manipulative, authoritarian, kleptocrat?

Why are you bringing Trudeau into this?

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But he deserves allies! 

1. Stop talking about Russia as if Putin is the only person there
2. If you hate communism and dictators so much then why do you support Sanders, Mamdani, Trudeau, Carney, and the ayatollah? It honestly makes no sense at all. You're like a self-proclaimed vegan who runs a slaughterhouse and only eats veal. 

Edited April 15 by WestCanMan

[User]

25 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

These two comments entirely display your knowledge of the situation...

Yes. They are intelligent, factual points. As opposed to your ignorant and/or outright false crap you say. 

Are you really unaware that Europe was one of the largest trading partners with Russia before the war? 

 

[Nationalist]

57 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Look, a massive a-hole discovers empathy for the very first time... and employs it to empathize with another massive a-hole. 

Poor Putin. People don't want to ally themselves with the murderous, manipulative, authoritarian, kleptocrat? Say it ain't so? 

But he deserves allies! It doesn't matter what other countries want or what kind of governments they want. Putin deserves them. And if they don't want to be friends with him, he should invade them. And then he's the good guy in that scenario. 

Holy shit, you are delusional. 

Lol...what a putz.

Are you really this shallow?

[Hodad]

47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Yeah, we know.

Not "Poor Putin", a-hole. There are 154M people in Russia and they are not benefitting from NATO's war. 

Why are you bringing Trudeau into this?

1. Stop talking about Russia as if Putin is the only person there
2. If you hate communism and dictators so much then why do you support Sanders, Mamdani, Trudeau, Carney, and the ayatollah? It honestly makes no sense at all. You're like a self-proclaimed vegan who runs a slaughterhouse and only eats veal. 

1. It doesn't matter how many people live in Russia. Regarding geopolitics, Putin is Russia right now. He is the politics. He is the military. He makes the decisions.

2. Putin is not a communist, but he certainly is a dictator. I have no particular interest in any of those people, nor have I ever displayed any. Just because you beta biatches are constantly looking for a "strongman" to adore doesn't mean the rest of us are interested in a cult of personality. 

[Legato]

19 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Then I guess we'll have to wait and see.

MacGregor is usually proven correct.

Key Findings for April 13, 2026:

No Massive Attack: Major news outlets reporting on April 13 and 14, 2026—including AP and the New York Times—indicate that as of that date, residents in central Israel had emerged from shelters, roads were busy, and schools were reopening, suggesting a pause or significant de-escalation in major strikes on Tel Aviv.

Ceasefire and Negotiations: Reports indicate a "fragile ceasefire" between the U.S. and Iran was in place, with diplomatic talks occurring in Washington.

Context of Misinformation: Many dramatic videos showing Tel Aviv under attack are, in fact, AI-generated or miscaptioned footage from earlier in 2025 or March 2026, according to expert fact-checks. 

The New York Times +4

While earlier, smaller strikes occurred in March 2026, a massive "missile storm" on April 13 is not supported by credible, timely reporting

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, User said:

Yes. They are intelligent, factual points. As opposed to your ignorant and/or outright false crap you say. 

Are you really unaware that Europe was one of the largest trading partners with Russia before the war? 

Be honest. There were permanent trade barriers with Russia, even before the Ukrainian gov't was overthrown in an American-led coup. 

There were permanent trade barriers with Russia when Zelensky took office, and immediately reaffirmed Ukraine's commitment to the 2019 constitutional amendment that made joining NATO a strategic goal. 

Russia's war against Ukraine is entirely legitimate. The deaths of all the Ukrainian and Russian soldiers was already a foregone conclusion when Ukraine made that commitment. 

Zelensky chose this war.

Zelensky chose for all these deaths to occur by openly advocating for Ukraine to ally themselves with people hundreds and even several thousands of miles away instead of at least remaining neutral towards his own neighour.

• Key Warnings Throughout the Years:
• 1997–1998 (Mid-1990s): George Kennan, the architect of the US Cold War containment policy, warned in 1997 and 1998 that expanding NATO was a "fateful error" that would start a new Cold War and lead to an adverse Russian reaction. In 1997, 50 prominent foreign policy experts signed an open letter to President Clinton calling the expansion a "policy error of historic proportions".
• 2007: Vladimir Putin stated at the Munich Security Conference that NATO expansion was a "serious provocation" that reduced trust.
• 2008: Following the Bucharest summit where NATO stated Ukraine "will become members," US diplomat William J. Burns (now CIA Director) famously warned in a memo that "Ukrainian entry into NATO is the brightest of all redlines for the Russian elite (not just Putin)".
• 2014-2022: Following the annexation of Crimea, many analysts argued that the ongoing push for NATO-Ukraine ties was a "needless provocation" that directly violated what Russia considered its "vital national interests".

You keep on acting surprised by the start of this war, and saying that I make all this stuff up myself, or that I just don't know what I'm talking about, but this war, this consequence of NATO aggression, has been well and truly understood for GENERATIONS. All of these deaths were a CONSCIOUS DECISION that was made by the US and parroted by Vladimir Zelensky, may God have mercy on his traitorous soul (just kidding: f-him).

 

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, Legato said:

Key Findings for April 13, 2026:

No Massive Attack: Major news outlets reporting on April 13 and 14, 2026—including AP and the New York Times—indicate that as of that date, residents in central Israel had emerged from shelters, roads were busy, and schools were reopening, suggesting a pause or significant de-escalation in major strikes on Tel Aviv.

Ceasefire and Negotiations: Reports indicate a "fragile ceasefire" between the U.S. and Iran was in place, with diplomatic talks occurring in Washington.

Context of Misinformation: Many dramatic videos showing Tel Aviv under attack are, in fact, AI-generated or miscaptioned footage from earlier in 2025 or March 2026, according to expert fact-checks. 

The New York Times +4

While earlier, smaller strikes occurred in March 2026, a massive "missile storm" on April 13 is not supported by credible, timely reporting

That's interesting 'cause...

 

The "just some guy"...who was in the highest levels of government not too long ago...

And this is amusing...

Now...you and I both know, as do most of us, that the primary news media is controlled by...outside forces.

If half of this reporting is true, things are not getting better for "our side".

Maybe "our side" should extricate itself from this mess?