Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 5 hours ago, User said: Yes. Yes? I know there's been attacks on bases over there but locally its been just a couple of lone wolf type things and they happened after America blew stuff up in Iran. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 (edited) 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Terrorism...in America? Or on US bases in the Middle East? What is the implication here? We should not fight back when our military is being attacked? Here is a pretty long list of attacks on military and civilian targets, mostly in the middle east. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present-2/ Edited April 13 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: What is the implication here? We should not fight back when our military is being attacked? Here is a pretty long list of attacks on military and civilian targets, mostly in the middle east. https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2026/03/06/iranian-and-iranian-backed-attacks-against-americans-1979-present-2/ Ok. That's a reasonable answer. So...those bases...many in Iraq where The Coalition of The Willing destroyed the place looking for WMD that didn't exist. In Syria where the "terrorist" the US went to fight, is now the head of state, and others in nations the US has "protection rackets" going. Why not just remove them? Or at least have them stop firing missiles at Iran. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Barquentine Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 18 hours ago, paxamericana said: It’s crypto that is a real threat. Hence US government crackdown on none sanctioned crypto. Crypto is a threat to everyone and a crook's best friend. No wonder Trump and his cronies like it so much. What makes one crypto sanctioned and another one not? What is the real value of crypto? Zero. There will be some major crashes. Remember NFTs? 18 hours ago, paxamericana said: Any threat to the petrol dollar will incur a regime change or national dissolution. That includes the Chinese who are target number one. Hah! Good luck with that one. Quote
paxamericana Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 30 minutes ago, Barquentine said: What is the real value of crypto? Zero Tell that to the speculators. And then again, what is currency if not the immaterial, value. Gold is much the same as crypto in those regards. 31 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Hah! Good luck with that one. No luck needed. It’s currency backed by the world’s deadliest military in history. Quote
Barquentine Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 2 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Tell that to the speculators Exactly! Speculators. 3 minutes ago, paxamericana said: And then again, what is currency if not the immaterial, value Backed by the goods created and economic activity of a country. 4 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Gold is much the same as crypto in those regards. That's partially right but gold does have a lot of practical applications. 4 minutes ago, paxamericana said: No luck needed. It’s currency backed by the world’s deadliest military in history. And you're going to do what to China with that? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 49 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ok. That's a reasonable answer. So...those bases...many in Iraq where The Coalition of The Willing destroyed the place looking for WMD that didn't exist. In Syria where the "terrorist" the US went to fight, is now the head of state, and others in nations the US has "protection rackets" going. Why not just remove them? Or at least have them stop firing missiles at Iran. Are you under the impression they are reacting to us? We reacted to them. They were an ally until their leader got mad at the UK for an oil embargo and moved toward Russia in relations. Eisenhower was afraid the guy would go full communist, so he orchestrated a coup that backfired and led to the leaders we had up to 6 weeks ago. Those leaders attacked us relentlessly. We did not put bases in the ME to be aggressive to Iran. We put bases in the ME, in part, to respond to Iran. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
paxamericana Posted April 13 Author Report Posted April 13 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Barquentine said: And you're going to do what to China with that? The same thing we’ll do to all the other country that threatens the petrol dollar. Regime change. In the particular case of China, they are under going economic collapse. And if push comes to shove a wholesale famine should we wish to. So let it be a warning to any would be adversary who thinks they can challenge American supremacy, don’t fck with us. Here is your mobile on demand regime change service. We have 11 of these, come git sum. Edited April 13 by paxamericana Quote
Army Guy Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 Blocking Iran ports is probably the smartest move the US could have made, while still maintaining the destruction of its defenses though bombing.....but it does pose a risk when it comes down to confirmation with China....As most of Chinas oil comes from Iran....maybe China will force Iran to agree to US demands...although the optimal goal would be regime change...and the destruction of Iran proxy terrorists organizations... 1 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 9 hours ago, User said: Listen to yourself. You are both crying about Iran closing the Strait and cheering them on! I've told you too many times now... I'm not crying or cheering Iran on, I'm laughing at how well they're playing the economic pressure on Trump. You have to give the opponent a nod when they catch you with a solid hit... Quote
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Are you under the impression they are reacting to us? We reacted to them. They were an ally until their leader got mad at the UK for an oil embargo and moved toward Russia in relations. Eisenhower was afraid the guy would go full communist, so he orchestrated a coup that backfired and led to the leaders we had up to 6 weeks ago. Those leaders attacked us relentlessly. We did not put bases in the ME to be aggressive to Iran. We put bases in the ME, in part, to respond to Iran. Respond to Iran...responding to America's attempted coup...in Iran. Are you listening to yourself? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I've told you too many times now... I'm not crying or cheering Iran on, I'm laughing at how well they're playing the economic pressure on Trump. You have to give the opponent a nod when they catch you with a solid hit... Yeah, you are speaking with a forked tongue. In the same breath you cry, blaming Trump for closing the Strait, you also praise Iran for closing the Strait. The only principle you live by here is hating Trump. 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yes? I know there's been attacks on bases over there but locally its been just a couple of lone wolf type things and they happened after America blew stuff up in Iran. So… now you move on to justifying Irans actions. 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 4 minutes ago, User said: So… now you move on to justifying Irans actions. No. Im still wondering what realistic threat Iran poses to America? It appears to be little to none. In which case, America has become a Zionist stooge. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No. Im still wondering what realistic threat Iran poses to America? It appears to be little to none. In which case, America has become a Zionist stooge. No, you have just continued to dwindle the discussion down the path of ignoring half of what I say every time to the point now you have ignored the beginning of this discussion. Go back to the shared strategic interests. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 28 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Respond to Iran...responding to America's attempted coup...in Iran. Are you listening to yourself? You aren't reading it. They moved toward Russia. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
LinkSoul60 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 39 minutes ago, User said: Yeah, you are speaking with a forked tongue. In the same breath you cry, blaming Trump for closing the Strait, you also praise Iran for closing the Strait. The only principle you live by here is hating Trump. You're trying to listen with too much shît between your ears... It is what it is... not quite the wipe out your guy and his Fox News minion Hegseth told you, is it. Strongly disliking Trump doesn't even register in my guiding principles. Why exactly do you rely on him to guide yours? 1 Quote
eyeball Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 22 hours ago, Nationalist said: I would like to see "The West" stop bending the knee for Isreal. You're anti-Semitic? Welcome to the club. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 18 hours ago, User said: Well, at least you are being more honest now, you clearly oppose Israel and cheer on Iran. You realize he was a lefty in the past don't you? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 57 minutes ago, User said: No, you have just continued to dwindle the discussion down the path of ignoring half of what I say every time to the point now you have ignored the beginning of this discussion. Go back to the shared strategic interests. What shared strategic interests? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 13 hours ago, Nationalist said: And that's America's concern...why? The End of Days. It's America's death wish. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 53 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: You aren't reading it. They moved toward Russia. And? Is Russia not allowed to engage in business? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: You realize he was a lefty in the past don't you? This war makes no sense. If its all about Isreal...they should have the balls to say so. Isreal poses no benefit to America and Iran poses no threat to America. All they've accomplished is to reverse the deflation we were enjoying. 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: The End of Days. It's America's death wish. I've heard some say that. Should it happen...the Gawd of that burnt desert wins i guess. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 28 minutes ago, eyeball said: You're anti-Semitic? Welcome to the club. No. Im anti-stupid. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 2 hours ago, paxamericana said: In the particular case of China, they are under going economic collapse. And if push comes to shove a wholesale famine should we wish to. So let it be a warning to any would be adversary who thinks they can challenge American supremacy, don’t fck with us. China is not under an economic collapse. It's called a slowdown, just like the US economy. If you can't handle a lightweight like Iran easily how would you expect handle formidable opponent like China. Heck, they're in the background and enjoying watching this play this out as you pîss all your bullets, money and international goodwill away... Quote
eyeball Posted April 13 Report Posted April 13 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: This war makes no sense. It only makes sense to right wingers. 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: If its all about Isreal...they should have the balls to say so. Americans let their feelings be known. Only 5% of them supported admitting more Jewish refugees following the war. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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