August1991 Posted April 10 Report Posted April 10 In Quebec, like Europe, i have the choice for many common health tests. I can pay for cataract surgery and an MRI - or I can go public, and wait. Quote
August1991 Posted April 23 Author Report Posted April 23 I recently had the choice, same document from a public specialist: Public MRI - wait, we'll contact you to schedule Private MRI - about Cdn $800, next Monday. Quote
August1991 Posted May 2 Author Report Posted May 2 (edited) How much does a MRI cost in the US? In other provinces, how long do you wait? Can you pay as I did in Quebec? Edited May 2 by August1991 Quote
ExFlyer Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 Not sure what point you re trying to make but, you could always go somewhere and get medical services. In Quebec, your premiers have gone to the US for services. In Ontario, you can go to your doctor to to emergency or urgent care clinic or to any other medical service group. Knowing that emergency care clinics have been around for decades and are all "private". 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
herbie Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 11 hours ago, August1991 said: How much does a MRI cost in the US? Irrelevant. You do not pay here. If you simply don't want to wait, no one is stopping you from going to the USA or even India if you wish to. Two different things. And completely ignore those who can't pay. 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 I proposed health‑care reforms to political parties in Québec that would reduce the number of sick people and save the public treasury 30 billion dollars a year, and no one is interested. It feels pointless to vote because they’re all corrupted by major poison‑producing industries like pharmaceuticals, food corporations, the military sector, and others. They have no compassion for people who suffer; for them, corrupting political parties is just a small investment that brings in billions in profit. The media are corrupted as well, and those who run them have huge interests in supporting capitalism and the parties that serve it. Quote
John Stone Posted May 2 Report Posted May 2 (edited) Always a controversy over what country has better health care. U.S. has Health Ins and Medicaid (Medicare) Kanadian citizens tap Universal Health Care (Medicare) Additionally, many U.S. hospitals are profit-drive (Business) Kanadian hospitals are government owned. Per capita U.S. citizens pay huge amounts in Ins / deductibles (15K USD/ yr) Kanada it depends on the Province .......... but the bill is paid by the Gov. .......... around 5k CDNf Roughly 10 percent of the U.S.. population have no health ins. Edited May 2 by John Stone 1 Quote
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 7 hours ago, herbie said: Irrelevant. You do not pay here. If you simply don't want to wait, no one is stopping you from going to the USA or even India if you wish to. Two different things. And completely ignore those who can't pay. You do pay, in taxes. Typical big government leftist, and why I oppose government health care. Snobs like you are like: SHUT UP AND WAIT 6 MONTHS OR PI$$ OFF. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 15 minutes ago, User said: You do pay, in taxes. Typical big government leftist, and why I oppose government health care. Snobs like you are like: SHUT UP AND WAIT 6 MONTHS OR PI$$ OFF. So you'll just man up and die if you can't afford it? 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 12 hours ago, eyeball said: So you'll just man up and die if you can't afford it? Why wouldn’t I be able to afford it? Quote
John Stone Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 Universal Health Care - warts and all? The U.S. has the economic capacity to implement such a system. The challenge is mainly political and the groomed concept of individualism. What is truly crazy is the country spends more on health care than any other high-income country, yet when compared it remains the only one without universal health coverage? Health Ins net earnings peaked at 30 billion last year............. a mere 30 billion? Adjusted figures for the Iran war are estimated to be 200 billion. “I am thrilled to announce my plan to lower healthcare prices for all Americans and truly make healthcare affordable again—we’re doing things that nobody’s ever been able to do, we’re calling it The Great Healthcare Plan.” / Trump Don't just talk about it, be about it Donald! Quote
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 36 minutes ago, John Stone said: The U.S. has the economic capacity to implement such a system. How are you even a real person? In one thread you are talking about how we will have to cut entitlement spending because of the national debt and here you are saying we can afford universal healthcare… Quote
herbie Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 16 hours ago, User said: ou do pay, in taxes. That's the lie you Yanks like to promote loudest. We pay barely more taxes than you do, and we don't pay thousands in premiums and co-pays. The things we do pay for are also far cheaper.A month's worth of post op pain meds, antinbiotics PLUS blood pressure meds for $21? Keep fooling yourself. Along with your greedy self-centered anti-social Why should "I" pay for someone else's drugs attitude. Go ahead pay 10 times as much just to make sure no one else benefits. Quote
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 15 minutes ago, herbie said: That's the lie you Yanks like to promote loudest. We pay barely more taxes than you do, and we don't pay thousands in premiums and co-pays. The things we do pay for are also far cheaper.A month's worth of post op pain meds, antinbiotics PLUS blood pressure meds for $21? Keep fooling yourself. Along with your greedy self-centered anti-social Why should "I" pay for someone else's drugs attitude. Go ahead pay 10 times as much just to make sure no one else benefits. Interesting take, figuring I have worked with plenty of Canadians who pay a crap ton in taxes and complain how the return is crap. This thread was created to complain about how long an MRI takes and your response is so what. Quote
eyeball Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 4 hours ago, User said: Why wouldn’t I be able to afford it? Depends on what you're sick with, like millions of other Americans you might not have enough money. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: Depends on what you're sick with, like millions of other Americans you might not have enough money. Why wouldn’t I have enough money? Quote
eyeball Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 2 minutes ago, User said: Why wouldn’t I have enough money? Depends on what you're sick with, like millions of other Americans you might not have enough money. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
John Stone Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 1 hour ago, User said: How are you even a real person? In one thread you are talking about how we will have to cut entitlement spending because of the national debt and here you are saying we can afford universal healthcare… The Trump administration has requested a 1.5 trillion INCREASE in defense spending for 2027. This equates to roughly a 42 percent increase in defense spending and TEN percent reduction in nondefense spending. Quote
User Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 4 minutes ago, John Stone said: The Trump administration has requested a 1.5 trillion INCREASE in defense spending for 2027. This equates to roughly a 42 percent increase in defense spending and TEN percent reduction in nondefense spending. OMG, it’s 1.5 total… Still not a response to the silliness you are engaged in on this forum. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted May 3 Report Posted May 3 Our Canadian system needs tweaking. Suggestions for improvement lie in both Asia and Europe, especially Europe. There may be isolated examples from the US that we can follow as well. We should consider anything that seems to work and provides value for money. Let’s be open to ideas. Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
eyeball Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 Apparently we have some 13000 doctors and 32000 nurses living in Canada who are qualified but can't get the certification they need practice. To me this resonates with the issue of inter-provincial trade barriers. Personally I think the biggest issue everyone faces is our system of government. With 12 - 13 provincial governments each effectively with the power of a country and 1 country with no more gravitas than a province amongst equals is it really any wonder it takes forever to get anything done? The only thing that gives me hope is the recent decisions to scrap DST. That only took decades and decades so...what's the hurry? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Our Canadian system needs tweaking. It takes years and years to tweak the Canadian system. We'd be better off if it just collapsed and we could get a fresh start. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Nefarious Banana Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 3 hours ago, eyeball said: It takes years and years to tweak the Canadian system. We'd be better off if it just collapsed and we could get a fresh start. When that unemployed hang-about 'street person' has had two dozen call-outs with ambulance and medical care for his/her overdose crisis and gets top-billing treatment in the Emergency ward, and grandpa who's worked/paid taxes dies waiting for an ambulance/medical help . . . you know there's something really fk'd in this country. 1 Quote
Gaétan Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 Political parties are so corrupt that people end up being slowly poisoned by what they eat. We should start by reforming the health‑care system, which is itself corrupted by major food and pharmaceutical corporations, and get rid of the poisons they make us consume. These companies have no compassion for the population they make sick. Their strongest allies are the capitalist parties — the Liberals, the Conservatives — and the media. Quote
John Stone Posted May 4 Report Posted May 4 11 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Our Canadian system needs tweaking. Suggestions for improvement lie in both Asia and Europe, especially Europe. There may be isolated examples from the US that we can follow as well. We should consider anything that seems to work and provides value for money. Let’s be open to ideas. vote ............... a 60 percent turnout isn't a cause for celeb! Quote
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