The Left's Desperate Bid to Have You Believe that America is Losing the War in Iran

[Nationalist]

29 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

Don't like Girls? 

Not crazy-ass fat ones...no.

8 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Interesting question. It's like "What came first: the chicken or the egg?"

Is their outward appearance the manifestation of their inner ugliness, laziness, and stupidity, or is their inner ugliness a product of their grotesque physical features?

Or maybe it's option 3: the man-bun simps are so effeminate and stupid that the women feel like they don't need to put any effort in to wrap the poor little cultists around their fingers. 

Little o' both I guess.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Lol...a football groupie.

Extremely Doubtful.

But thanks for proving you know nothing about her. LMAO

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According to reports and social media announcements in August 2025, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce are engaged. The couple announced the news via a joint Instagram post on August 26, 2025,

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

It was set to expire after 10 years. So at some point in 2025.

Which meant "10 years from 2015 to 2025 for Iran to secretly build up their own drone, ballistic missile, IRBM and ICBM capacity, and to stock Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis with hundreds of thousands of rockets, ballistic missiles and drones, so that they could overwhelm all of the US and Israeli defence systems in the ME."

Do you understand that, robo?

Are you aware that Iran even gives the Houthis ballistic missiles? Most countries don't even have ballistic missiles. Canada doesn't have ballistic missiles. But a terrorist group in the ME has ballistic missiles because that's how irresponsible and reckless Iran is. And they didn't just start giving the Houthis BM's after Trump "said or did something". They have been giving the Houthis BM's since at least 2015.

FYI Iran was building up drone, rocket and ballistic missile arsenals all over the ME to participate in a genocide against Israel and to wipe out American bases in the ME. 

So look at how much Iran built all those stockpiles up over the past ten years, then look ten years down the road, and ten years after that.

Eventually Iran was going to be powerful enough to just say "We're building nukes and you can't stop us."

And it's possible that they could have even gotten away with telling Kamala Harris that this year if she won the election. At which point it would be her choice alone to determine whether or not to call their bluff. Just imagine a nuclear-armed Iran in summer 2026. Talk about f'ed.

IDGAF what left4rd cultists say. Iran possessing nukes shouldn't be a partisan issue. You need to grow up, and deal with reality. 

I understand the the JCPOA was a nuclear agreement and covered NOTHING about MISSILES, lDIOT.

And that Trump was STUPID to walk away from it.

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I understand the the JCPOA was a nuclear agreement and covered NOTHING about MISSILES, lDIOT.

Right. That's what I just said, dummy.

Iran just bought themselves a decade, from 2015 to 2025, to build up their missile and drone fleets to massive enough levels where they would no longer need to agree to demands from the US or anyone else. Renewing that deal would just buy them another 10 years. 

If you look around the US and the rest of the world, not many people were brave enough to deal with Iran head-on. If not for Trump, the world was probably on a crash course with a nuclear armed Iran by summer 2026. 

Kamala never would have slowed them down. They'd tell her to go stare at some lawns while they built nukes. 

Thank God for Trump. (I do say "Thank God" a lot for an atheist lol)

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Right. That's what I just said, dummy.

Iran just bought themselves a decade, from 2015 to 2025, to build up their missile and drone fleets to massive enough levels where they would no longer need to agree to demands from the US or anyone else. Renewing that deal would just buy them another 10 years. 

If you look around the US and the rest of the world, not many people were brave enough to deal with Iran head-on. If not for Trump, the world was probably on a crash course with a nuclear armed Iran by summer 2026. 

Kamala never would have slowed them down. They'd tell her to go stare at some lawns while they built nukes. 

Thank God for Trump. (I do say "Thank God" a lot for an atheist lol)

Why should Iran submit to being under the thumb of ANYONE? If Israel is willing to give up nukes and missiles, maybe Iran will, too.

This is not over and despite what he says, Trump has not "won" anything.

Now he's backing down on his threats, because Iran can take out others' power plants, too.

 

[Gaétan]

I support the Iranians and Hezbollah because they oppose the genocides and injustices committed by the great prostitute and the beast and of its ten horns.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Extremely Doubtful.

But thanks for proving you know nothing about her. LMAO

 

Like I said...a football groupie.

[CdnFox]

Obviously at this point the left isn't interested in fact the truth as much as they are interested in making trump look weak

Having said that I have to admit looking from the outside it's hard to see signs that there was a concrete plan here.  Obviously they're dominating militarily but what's the end game? When do we call it a victory? Without regime change they're back to square one and it seems like they're not able to make that happen.

On the flip side we don't really know what's going on behind the scenes or what the negotiations are or what the original plan was or what the Israelis were thinking or anything. If it is truly possible to end the days of Iran being a state sponsor of terrorism and discord in the region then that's absolutely fantastic. But is that what they're actually doing?

I guess we'll have to wait and see. I mean even if it takes months if it results in Iran being neutralized as a terrorist threat in the middle east in a substantial way for the foreseeable future it was totally worth it. If this by 6 months of then keeping their heads down and then they're back at it then this was pointless

[John Stone]

The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action  (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the Five Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council – China, France, Russia, U.K, - plus Germany together with the European Union. 

The agreement was a monumental example of INTERNATIONAL agreement.

EPIC Fury is NOT a monumental example of international agreement. 

The agreement allowed the international community to sanction Iran, to any degree,  IF a violation was detected.

The JCPOA agreement, July 2015, included inspections as part of its provisions. The agreement allowed for the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) to have enhanced access to Iran’s nuclear facilities, including the right to a physical or technical presence in all nuclear sites. This was a significant aspect of the deal as it insured that Iran would need to set up an entirely parallel set of facilities and a SUPPLY chain if it sought to have a covert nuclear weapons program. The IAEA’s monitoring of Iran’s entire nuclear fuel cycle and supply chain, from the uranium mines and mills to centrifuge production, assembly and storage facilities, was a key element of the deal.

President Donald Trump officially terminated U.S. participation  in the JCPOA, May 8,2018 and directed re-imposition of U.S. sanctions on Iran.

Iran began enriching uranium after the JCPOA was cancelled in 2018. Specifically, Iran resumed enriching uranium to 20 percent in Jan 2021 and to 60 percent in April 2021.

 

 

[John Stone]

The question is why did Trump withdraw the U.S. support for the JCPOA.

I fully support Israel, they have legitimate security concerns and are justified in their actions. 

The decision by Trump is the mystery. 

JCPOA notwithstanding, Iran would continue to be a threat to Israel, nukes or not. (anyone remember why the U.S. invaded Iraq?? WMD lies?) 

Totally understand Israel's concern  re: JCPOA - Israel was not willing to take the chance - they needed the U.S. to become totally involved - ground troops would be the ideal. 

Cutting to the chase, Bibi saw a fool in Trump - he punked him - he used every tool in his toolbox of options 

The JCPOA allowed international  oversight - when the agreement was cancelled by Trump Iran  (duh?) spun up their centrifuges' - no question  they have enriched fuel now - but it did not need to be. 

Trump, in his actions then  and his ham-fisted manner now has made the World a much more dangerous spaceship (Russia, China, NK  ........... for starters and  then there's the 'kids') 

oh yeah, why does this doddering fool negotiate in public in  the most childish of  expressions. 

Edited March 25 by John Stone

[Michael Hardner]

37 minutes ago, John Stone said:

why does this doddering fool negotiate in public in  the most childish of  expressions. 

I don't think that's happening.  Otherwise, wouldn't we have clear indications of what is on the table?

 

[John Stone]

34 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I don't think that's happening.  Otherwise, wouldn't we have clear indications of what is on the table?

 

Is it possible that Trump backed out of JCPOA, knowing that with the return of sanctions, Iran would again begin  enrichment?

Israel desires U.S. involvement  - always did!

Kudos to Bibi  - well played. 

As dozy as Biden was, he didn't fall for it. 

 

Edited March 25 by John Stone

[Reg Volk]

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, Gaétan said:

I support the Iranians and Hezbollah because they oppose the genocides and injustices committed by the great prostitute and the beast and of its ten horns.

There are no injustices committed by any of the people that you support genocide against.

1. Your people committed genocide against 700,000 Sikhs and Hindus to eradicate non-muslims in Pakistan on Aug 14, 1947. They drove 8M more people out, forever.
2. Your people tried to commit a second genocide against Israel 9 months later, May 14 1948, by sending the combined armies of 5 muslim nations to what they thought would be another joyful slaughter, but got hoisted on their own petards.

The Jews have been trying to avoid annihilation for a long time prior to even May 14, 1948, but that was the day they started fighting as a nation to protect themselves.

FYI Palestinians have always had the option to live in peace. They choose to strive for genocide: the concept of not killing Jews is foreign to them.

You are a stupid, worthless, cultist piece of shit. 

[WestCanMan]

12 hours ago, John Stone said:

The so-called Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action  (JCPOA) also known as the Iran nuclear deal or Iran deal was an agreement to limit the Iranian nuclear program in return for sanctions relief and other provisions. The agreement was finalized in Vienna on 14 July 2015, between Iran and the Five Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council – China, France, Russia, U.K, - plus Germany together with the European Union. 

^^Propganda^^

Abiding by the restrictions of UN Security Council Resolution 2231 was a fundamental requirement of the JCPOA, and Iran completely ignored 2231 and started amassing ballistic missiles right away. They had thousands of BM's by 2018.

• Ballistic Missile Restrictions [from 2231]: Called on Iran not to engage in activities related to ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons, such as launches, until October 2023. (ie, building them, testing them, or acquiring the missiles or plans for building them)

We now know that Iran even has IRBM's because they fired on at Diego Garcia. 

 

[Gaétan]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

There are no injustices committed by any of the people that you support genocide against.

1. Your people committed genocide against 700,000 Sikhs and Hindus to eradicate non-muslims in Pakistan on Aug 14, 1947. They drove 8M more people out, forever.
2. Your people tried to commit a second genocide against Israel 9 months later, May 14 1948, by sending the combined armies of 5 muslim nations to what they thought would be another joyful slaughter, but got hoisted on their own petards.

The Jews have been trying to avoid annihilation for a long time prior to even May 14, 1948, but that was the day they started fighting as a nation to protect themselves.

FYI Palestinians have always had the option to live in peace. They choose to strive for genocide: the concept of not killing Jews is foreign to them.

You are a stupid, worthless, cultist piece of shit. 

People who are paid by agencies to spread propaganda, like you, should be expelled from the forum and from Canada if they are here. The RCMP tolerates cia agents and Israeli agent here, and they shouldn’t.

[WestCanMan]

46 minutes ago, Gaétan said:

People who are paid by agencies to spread propaganda, like you, should be expelled from the forum and from Canada if they are here. The RCMP tolerates cia agents and Israeli agent here, and they shouldn’t.

Gaetan, the thing that you're accusing Israel of was only really done by Pakistan.

In Pakistan they killed ~700,000 people and expelled 8M, with no right to return, just because they wanted an ethnically cleansed state. The Pakistanis weren't attacked by foreign armies, they just wanted to kill/kick out people whose ancestors had lived there for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. 

Israel was created by the exact same British Gov't, and ratified by the exact same UN members, but on that day 5 muslim armies attacked Israel, trying to commit a genocide against them, just like the one in Pakistan 9 months earlier that ethnically cleansed the place to this day. But the 5 armies failed to commit genocide. Israel won.

You could look back a bit further if you wanted to. The war really started on the day of the UN vote, and just ramped up after Israel got their sovereignty, because the muslim nations didn't want Britain to be involved.

You could go back even further, and notice that Jewish populations across the ME have been discriminated against/slaughtered/persecuted etc for over a thousand years. 

Israel's crime all along has just been "preventing genocide against them". 

FYI muslim countries committed several genocides in the millions during the 1900's, Gaetan. Pakistan committed two themselves. Turkey committed one. 

Where is all the anger from the ME countries over all of those GENOCIDES that were THOUSANDS OF TIMES LARGER, Gaetan? Why don't you join ranks with the muslims and rage against all of the genocides in the ME that were in the millions? 

Oh, I know why: because they don't give a f--k about those genocides in the millions. They only care about "the nabka" where 400-1,000 people were killed and 30,000 died on both sides of a war. 

Here is AI's version of the events in Israel circa 1948:

• The partition of 

  Mandatory Palestine

   refers to the United Nations' 1947 plan to divide the British-ruled territory into independent Arab and Jewish states. While the plan was adopted by the UN General Assembly, it was never fully implemented as written and instead triggered a period of intense conflict that reshaped the region's borders. 
   
  The UN Partition Plan (1947)
  Following the end of World War II and the Holocaust, the British government announced its intention to withdraw from Palestine and turned the issue over to the newly formed United Nations. 
• Civil War and the 1948 War

  Immediately following the UN vote, the territory descended into a civil war (Nov 1947–May 1948) between Jewish and Arab militias. 

   
• Declaration of Independence: On May 14, 1948, hours before the British Mandate officially expired, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel
  .
• Arab Invasion: The next day, a coalition of Arab states (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon) invaded the former mandate territory, escalating the conflict into the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. 
• Results and the Nakba
  The war formally ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, leading to a landscape very different from the original UN proposal: 
• Territorial Shifts: Israel emerged in control of approximately 77%–78% of the former mandate territory, significantly more than the UN plan had allotted.
• Occupation of Remaining Areas: Jordan took control of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, while Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip
  .
• The Nakba (The Catastrophe): For Palestinians, this period is remembered as the Nakba, involving the mass displacement of approximately 700,000–750,000 Palestinians who fled or were expelled from their homes, creating a massive refugee crisis that persists today.
• Jewish Displacement: Simultaneously, hundreds of thousands of Jews fled or were expelled from Arab countries, with many eventually settling in the newly formed State of Israel. 

 

 

FYI the first major massacre of the "nabka" period was committed by muslims, at the Haifa Oil Refinery Massacre, Dec 30 1947. That was approximately 40 people. The muslims did two more mass killings in early 1948.

Here is the whole list of killings during the nabka, which you can compare to the massacres by muslims in the 1900s, that were in the millions.

• Balad al-Shaykh (31 December 1947): A Palmach raid on the village near Haifa resulted in 60–70 deaths.
• Sa'sa' (14 February 1948): Palmach forces blew up houses with families inside, killing approximately 60 villagers, including children.
• Deir Yassin (9 April 1948): One of the most infamous massacres, where Irgun and Lehi units killed between 107 and 140 villagers, including women and children, near Jerusalem.
• Nasir al-Din (14 April 1948): Zionist militias killed roughly 50 people, leaving only 40 survivors in the village south of Tiberias.
• Ein al-Zeitun (May 1948): At least 70 Palestinian villagers were killed after the Palmach captured the village near Safed.
• Abu Shusha (13–14 May 1948): The Givati Brigade killed 60–70 villagers; a mass grave with 52 bodies was later unearthed in 1995.
• Tantura (22–23 May 1948): Following the village's surrender, the Alexandroni Brigade killed an estimated 40 to 200+ villagers.
• Lydda (July 1948): During the capture of the city, hundreds of Palestinians (estimates range from 250 to over 400) were killed, including 176 people inside the Dahmash Mosque.
• Safsaf (29 October 1948): Israeli forces shot and killed 52–70 men, who were then burned in a pit.
• Al-Dawayima (29 October 1948): One of the largest massacres, with death toll estimates ranging from 80 to over 450. Victims were killed in their homes, in the village mosque, and at a nearby cave.
• Saliha (30 October 1948): The 7th Brigade blew up a mosque where villagers had taken refuge, killing 60–94 people.
• Eilabun (30 October 1948): Fourteen villagers were killed, with 13 executed in front of the community; the event was documented by UN investigators.
• Hula (31 October 1948): In this Lebanese village, between 35 and 58 villagers were killed by the Carmeli Brigade after the village was captured without resistance.

That's it. That's the big list. That's "the nabka" that you're so irate about. It's about 1,000 people, but just remember, this was all done while 5 muslim armies were trying to commit genocide against the Jews there. 

Now compare the nabka, of 1,000 peple MAX, vs several muclim genocides in the millions in that century. 

 

Gaetan: I would love to see exactly what your alternative facts state, because you're clearly reacting to a completely different set of circumstances from what I've seen from every historian, novel, and documentary, and from what Google AI thinks. 

If you'd like to discuss pre-1948 or 1967 or '68 to the present, sure. I'm game. 

 

 

Again, Gaetan, please go and ask your muslim friends why they don't give a F about the genocides in the ME that were in the millions. I would really love to know they feel like those genocides in the millions were ok, but the one in the thousands requires a retaliatory genocide in the millions.

Make that make sense, Gaetan. Just try. 

Edited March 26 by WestCanMan

[Gaétan]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Gaetan, the thing that you're accusing Israel of was only really done by Pakistan.

In Pakistan they killed ~700,000 people and expelled 8M, with no right to return, just because they wanted an ethnically cleansed state. The Pakistanis weren't attacked by foreign armies, they just wanted to kill/kick out people whose ancestors had lived there for hundreds, maybe thousands of years. 

Israel was created by the exact same British Gov't, and ratified by the exact same UN members, but on that day 5 muslim armies attacked Israel, trying to commit a genocide against them, just like the one in Pakistan 9 months earlier that ethnically cleansed the place to this day. But the 5 armies failed to commit genocide. Israel won.

You could look back a bit further if you wanted to. The war really started on the day of the UN vote, and just ramped up after Israel got their sovereignty, because the muslim nations didn't want Britain to be involved.

You could go back even further, and notice that Jewish populations across the ME have been discriminated against/slaughtered/persecuted etc for over a thousand years. 

Israel's crime all along has just been "preventing genocide against them". 

FYI muslim countries committed several genocides in the millions during the 1900's, Gaetan. Pakistan committed two themselves. Turkey committed one. 

Where is all the anger from the ME countries over all of those GENOCIDES that were THOUSANDS OF TIMES LARGER, Gaetan? Why don't you join ranks with the muslims and rage against all of the genocides in the ME that were in the millions? 

Oh, I know why: because they don't give a f--k about those genocides in the millions. They only care about "the nabka" where 400-1,000 people were killed and 30,000 died on both sides of a war. 

Here is AI's version of the events in Israel circa 1948:

• The partition of 

  Mandatory Palestine

   refers to the United Nations' 1947 plan to divide the British-ruled territory into independent Arab and Jewish states. While the plan was adopted by the UN General Assembly, it was never fully implemented as written and instead triggered a period of intense conflict that reshaped the region's borders. 
   
  The UN Partition Plan (1947)
  Following the end of World War II and the Holocaust, the British government announced its intention to withdraw from Palestine and turned the issue over to the newly formed United Nations. 
• Civil War and the 1948 War

  Immediately following the UN vote, the territory descended into a civil war (Nov 1947–May 1948) between Jewish and Arab militias. 

   
• Declaration of Independence: On May 14, 1948, hours before the British Mandate officially expired, David Ben-Gurion declared the establishment of the State of Israel
  .
• Arab Invasion: The next day, a coalition of Arab states (Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, and Lebanon) invaded the former mandate territory, escalating the conflict into the 1948 Arab–Israeli War. 
• Results and the Nakba
  The war formally ended with the 1949 Armistice Agreements, leading to a landscape very different from the original UN proposal: 
• Territorial Shifts: Israel emerged in control of approximately 77%–78% of the former mandate territory, significantly more than the UN plan had allotted.
• Occupation of Remaining Areas: Jordan took control of the West Bank and East Jerusalem, while Egypt occupied the Gaza Strip
  .
• The Nakba (The Catastrophe): For Palestinians, this period is remembered as the Nakba, involving the mass displacement of approximately 700,000–750,000 Palestinians who fled or were expelled from their homes, creating a massive refugee crisis that persists today.
• Jewish Displacement: Simultaneously, hundreds of thousands of Jews fled or were expelled from Arab countries, with many eventually settling in the newly formed State of Israel. 

 

 

FYI the first major massacre of the "nabka" period was committed by muslims, at the Haifa Oil Refinery Massacre, Dec 30 1947. That was approximately 40 people. The muslims did two more mass killings in early 1948.

Here is the whole list of killings during the nabka, which you can compare to the massacres by muslims in the 1900s, that were in the millions.

• Balad al-Shaykh (31 December 1947): A Palmach raid on the village near Haifa resulted in 60–70 deaths.
• Sa'sa' (14 February 1948): Palmach forces blew up houses with families inside, killing approximately 60 villagers, including children.
• Deir Yassin (9 April 1948): One of the most infamous massacres, where Irgun and Lehi units killed between 107 and 140 villagers, including women and children, near Jerusalem.
• Nasir al-Din (14 April 1948): Zionist militias killed roughly 50 people, leaving only 40 survivors in the village south of Tiberias.
• Ein al-Zeitun (May 1948): At least 70 Palestinian villagers were killed after the Palmach captured the village near Safed.
• Abu Shusha (13–14 May 1948): The Givati Brigade killed 60–70 villagers; a mass grave with 52 bodies was later unearthed in 1995.
• Tantura (22–23 May 1948): Following the village's surrender, the Alexandroni Brigade killed an estimated 40 to 200+ villagers.
• Lydda (July 1948): During the capture of the city, hundreds of Palestinians (estimates range from 250 to over 400) were killed, including 176 people inside the Dahmash Mosque.
• Safsaf (29 October 1948): Israeli forces shot and killed 52–70 men, who were then burned in a pit.
• Al-Dawayima (29 October 1948): One of the largest massacres, with death toll estimates ranging from 80 to over 450. Victims were killed in their homes, in the village mosque, and at a nearby cave.
• Saliha (30 October 1948): The 7th Brigade blew up a mosque where villagers had taken refuge, killing 60–94 people.
• Eilabun (30 October 1948): Fourteen villagers were killed, with 13 executed in front of the community; the event was documented by UN investigators.
• Hula (31 October 1948): In this Lebanese village, between 35 and 58 villagers were killed by the Carmeli Brigade after the village was captured without resistance.

That's it. That's the big list. That's "the nabka" that you're so irate about. It's about 1,000 people, but just remember, this was all done while 5 muslim armies were trying to commit genocide against the Jews there. 

Now compare the nabka, of 1,000 peple MAX, vs several muclim genocides in the millions in that century. 

 

Gaetan: I would love to see exactly what your alternative facts state, because you're clearly reacting to a completely different set of circumstances from what I've seen from every historian, novel, and documentary, and from what Google AI thinks. 

If you'd like to discuss pre-1948 or 1967 or '68 to the present, sure. I'm game. 

 

 

Again, Gaetan, please go and ask your muslim friends why they don't give a F about the genocides in the ME that were in the millions. I would really love to know they feel like those genocides in the millions were ok, but the one in the thousands requires a retaliatory genocide in the millions.

Make that make sense, Gaetan. Just try. 

I don’t read copy‑and‑paste propaganda from your agency

[John Stone]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

^^Propganda^^

Abiding by the restrictions of UN Security Council Resolution 2231 was a fundamental requirement of the JCPOA, and Iran completely ignored 2231 and started amassing ballistic missiles right away. They had thousands of BM's by 2018.

• Ballistic Missile Restrictions [from 2231]: Called on Iran not to engage in activities related to ballistic missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapons, such as launches, until October 2023. (ie, building them, testing them, or acquiring the missiles or plans for building them)

We now know that Iran even has IRBM's because they fired on at Diego Garcia. 

 

?

Iran's missile suite does not include ICBM

ICBM are global threats. 

The technology to get to this point is quite challenging - usually begins with simple satellites

Iran does contain ballistic missiles - designed for short to medium range - variable warhead

Iran's ballistic missiles would be perfect for attacking staging areas .....

[John Stone]

Strategically, Iran is definitely winning the war if u want to call it that. 

Before this 'excursion' Iran controlled around 4 percent of oil global exports.

Post 'excursion' they have wrested control of over 20 percent - simply put Iran has become an oil hegemon

It is Iran that controls the oil market.

The 

[John Stone]

At this point I it is clear that  op, "Midnight Hammer'  was   a failure. The precision attacks on Iran's  nuclear research facilities, June 22  (Fordow, Nantanz and Isfahan) were wildly exaggerated regarding, 'mission accomplished. 

It the fuel had been destroyed then there would have been no need for op, 'Epic Fury'. 

What those attacks  did accomplish was to commit the U.S. ............ ultimately to a ground war. 

Epic Fury was a restricted bombing campaign - begun about 3 weeks ago. The strategy was to bomb Iran into a negotiated settlement - with a focus on the nuke fuel.  The campaign was restricted due to the fact that it was discovered that Iran COULD control  Hormuz AND Iran could do tit-for-tat with neighboring countries infrastructure. 

Regime change was attempted, but Iran proved to be amazingly resilient. 

Likely, an attempt will be made to occupy Kharg.

Consider the transit for the attacking force .......... likely in ships - 200 miles from Hormuz - think targets. 

If Trump does decide on a beach assault both Trump politically and the assault force will be hugely exposed.

No question the Marines can do it - at what cost? 

Ballistic / drone launchers are  hundreds of miles inland.  

Consider this, what is to stop Iran from dropping 'dirty bombs'

Contamination for decades?

This 'excursion' needs a negotiated settlement.

The question is, has Iran now developed a diet as an  oil hegemon? 

Is anyone so foolish as to think the U.S. can declare 'excursion over' and get back to licking their nutz? 

Iran will  decide when it ends, not  the U.S. 

.......... likely China  and Russia will began to play a part in any negotiation. 

Edited March 26 by John Stone

[WestCanMan]

5 hours ago, Gaétan said:

I don’t read copy‑and‑paste propaganda from your agency

Nothing there is propaganda. 

If you have some alternative FACTS, don't be so afraid to show them. 

[Reg Volk]

 

How does a foolish Leftist woman go from basic lunatic to insane psychopath Jew-hater?  Watch this and find out!

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, John Stone said:

?

Iran's missile suite does not include ICBM

ICBM are global threats. 

The technology to get to this point is quite challenging - usually begins with simple satellites

Iran does contain ballistic missiles - designed for short to medium range - variable warhead

Iran's ballistic missiles would be perfect for attacking staging areas .....

IRBM's Intermediate-Range Ballistic Missiles.

They don't have quite the same range of ICBM's but it's a 2-stage rocket now, with high re-entry speeds, which means that they're closing in on ICBM technology, if they don't didn't [😂] already have it. 

[WestCanMan]

36 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

How does a foolish Leftist woman go from basic lunatic to insane psychopath Jew-hater?  Watch this and find out!

To be completely honest, they're only going from:

• violent hatred and bigotry against Republicans to
• violent hatred and bigotry against Republicans and Jews

They've been running around here denying reality for years now, pretending that:

1. young adults needed a jab
2. the jabs prevent people from getting sick
3. they saw a sea of swastikas and confederate flags at the Freedom Convoy rally
4. the Freedom Convoy rally was destructive and dangerous while BLM rallies were safe and lawful
5. G Floyd, Rayshad, Good, and M Brown were all completely innocent people complying with police when they were killed for no reason
6. Trump is a danger to democracy and the chorus of lying MSM outlets and social media giants is not

They're brainwashed, 100%. Not to love the Dems, to hate conservatives. 

I say let their hatred and love of violence grow. Let's see what the man-bun army can do 🤣