Deluge Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 40 minutes ago, Moonbox said: Pretty comfy way of looking at the world, isn't it? If you don't like the answer/reality you're getting, it's just fake news. Refinery infrastructure is incredibly expensive and often takes decades to get a Return on Investment. A lot of drilling/pipeline/refining projects don't make sense for companies if oil is <$100/barrel. That's why there are thousands of issued drilling permanents for US shale, with nobody actually using them. That's a big reason why pipeline projects out of Alberta don't get anywhere. That's why Canada doesn't refine much of its own oil. The point, comrade, is that the US could go 100% exclusive on oil and fuel and it's not doing that, and Ive gotten sick of it. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) 9 minutes ago, paxamericana said: That’s the roadmap to being left alone. Really can't disagree more. Cuba and Venezuala never posed a threat to the USA. Iran did/does, but you can't half-ass the solution. Dropping some bombs on them, assassinating their leader etc, doesn't make the US more safe. There's still stockpiles of almost-fully-enriched uranium hidden underground. The regime survives. All you're doing is cementing the pursuit of a nuclear deterrent as Iran's #1, absolute priority, and that the United States doesn't respect treaties or negotiate in good faith. Trump wonders why the Iranians aren't rising up? They had frontrow seats to the last time the USA encouraged a Shiite rebellion and then walked away from it. 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: The point, comrade, is that the US could go 100% exclusive on oil and fuel and it's not doing that, and Ive gotten sick of it. They could, but as with everything else the questions is always whether they should. The free market has a big say in a lot of that, and they don't see it as a good investment. They don't really take your feelings into account on that, comrade. Edited March 23 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
LinkSoul60 Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, paxamericana said: You want Abram’s tank rolling into Alberta yes? Just say so Canuck. You get to be American over night. Sure, send them up. Your finances are getting tight with Trump losing those tariff dollars, breaking the bank in debt before the war, and will probably double his mismangement before all is said and done. Diesel is more expensive up here so bring a credit card that is not cut off... Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) 7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Sure, send them up We wouldn’t want to come uninvited, why don’t you turn off the tap first? So we can all be clear that Canada want to be Americans. I think one of your premier Ford was it? He was real excited about doing just that. Wonder what happened? 7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Diesel is more expensive up here so bring a credit card that is not cut off... Our tanks takes jet fuel or gasoline thanks. Edited March 23 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 8 minutes ago, paxamericana said: We wouldn’t want to come uninvited, why don’t you turn off the tap first? So we can all be clear that Canada want to be Americans. I think one of your premier Ford was it? He was real excited about doing just that. Wonder what happened? Our tanks takes jet fuel or gasoline thanks. Keep it up and we're shutting off your tap first, and quickly.... Ford was messing with the senile guys mind to watch the melt down. Always good fun taking pot shots at the fool. And no, Canadian's prefer being Canadians, not American. I mean why would we want to be part of the US. You guys don't even like each other... we want no part of that. Whatever, fuel is real expensive now because of Capt. Bonespurs so bring a credit card that works.... Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 24 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Keep it up and we're shutting off your tap first, and quickly I’m glad you all are that excited to have freedom in Canada too. Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) Johnny, there never was a "MAGA wall" because unlike left4rds, conservatives are free-thinkers, and come to our own conclusions all the time. We disagree here in this forum constantly. User and I have epic exchanges that go on for days. By contrast, you will never see robo go against eyeball, or EF go against moonie, etc, because you guys are all in lock-step, every second of the say, in every thread, on every topic, regardless of how wrong you all are... If the LPoC says something blatantly false and stupid, or the dems, or CNN, or CBC, you will all defend it tooth-and-nail until the day you die, regardless of how blatantly false it is. At the very worst you will just stay away from a topic to draw attention elsewhere. Currently you're ALL trying to pretend that it's ok to demand that people show ID to get a job shovelling snow, but at the same time it's racist to require that those same people should need to show ID to vote. According to your theory, I should be able to go down to San Francisco and cast my vote as "Nancy Pelosi" and no one can challenge my right to cast that ballot, but I can't buy wine unless i have a driver's license. That's the depth of your stupidity. Not one leftist here can say "Yeah guys, voter ID makes sense" because you are all cultists. Period. You are all cultists, so none of you can admit that voter ID makes sense. Prove me wrong, johnny. Break ranks with your fellow leftards and say that, even if you don't believe it, for no other reason than to prove that you have free will, and you can say whatever you want.... I'll wait. You can retract your statement here tomorrow, and I will be your witness that it was just an experiment, and you didn't really disobey your handler, you were just trying to pretend to have freedom of speech. Johnny, there's no better example of a free thinker here than MH, our resident conservative who takes the LPoC position on literally every topic here, ever. Yeah. He's a conservative, but at no point has he ever sided with conservatives on a single policy or statement. Could one possibly be any more open-minded than the man who says "the other guys are always right, 100% of the time, we are always wrong, and the majority of us are racists and misogynists"? Edited March 23 by WestCanMan 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) On 3/22/2026 at 9:33 AM, paxamericana said: Under what conditions? Have we finished destroying their nuclear capability and set the stage for a negotiated settlement where the Iranian stop attacking their neighbors? If not then why stop the war? I figure they got the message. Don't you? If Isreal wants to fight, let 'em. But the USA needs to stop. Edited March 23 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 25 minutes ago, Nationalist said: to stop. We will. Timeline is fuzzy though. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Just now, paxamericana said: We will. Timeline is fuzzy though. Un-Fuzzy it. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Un-Fuzzy it. Need 200B first. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Just now, paxamericana said: Need 200B first. Lol...of course... 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 On 3/21/2026 at 6:55 PM, Deluge said: Boebert's right. Trump needs to end this thing now. I think that Trump should keep his options open while we figure out how much opposition the IRGC regime can mount to a return of the Shah. If the IRGC maintains control, then all that Trump did is set the timeline back 4 yeaars. If the IRGC maintains control, and the Chinese military sets up bases in Iran, the ME is permanently f'ed. Maybe the world. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I think that Trump should keep his options open while we figure out how much opposition the IRGC regime can mount to a return of the Shah. If the IRGC maintains control, then all that Trump did is set the timeline back 4 yeaars. If the IRGC maintains control, and the Chinese military sets up bases in Iran, the ME is permanently f'ed. Maybe the world. Why would the world be f'ed? I can easily see the Chinese putting bases in Iran to ensure their oil and gas supply. Why would that be a bad thing? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 Just now, Nationalist said: Why would the world be f'ed? I can easily see the Chinese putting bases in Iran to ensure their oil and gas supply. Why would that be a bad thing? Because it ensures that Iran is forever an evil shithole country. Can you imagine a ME that's not a complete shithole? What might that look like? What would it take to get there? Surely the Chinese reinforcing the current regime there is a huge step towards "shithole forever". Believe me, they're not gonna go there to bring the Iranians freedom lol. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 16 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Because it ensures that Iran is forever an evil shithole country. Can you imagine a ME that's not a complete shithole? What might that look like? What would it take to get there? Surely the Chinese reinforcing the current regime there is a huge step towards "shithole forever". Believe me, they're not gonna go there to bring the Iranians freedom lol. And who says Iran wants your version of freedom? It looks like they dont...really. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: And who says Iran wants your version of freedom? It looks like they dont...really. It depends on whose propaganda you believe, I guess. Of course the evil F's who are still in power don't want change. The whole reason they were slaughtering people was to stay in power. But when people were being slaughtered, they kept coming out. I think that shows a real willingness by millions of people to fight for change. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Nationalist Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It depends on whose propaganda you believe, I guess. Of course the evil F's who are still in power don't want change. The whole reason they were slaughtering people was to stay in power. But when people were being slaughtered, they kept coming out. I think that shows a real willingness by millions of people to fight for change. Ya. I see your point. Im disappointed that they didn't do so 2 or 3 weeks ago. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) On 3/21/2026 at 10:11 AM, John Johnston said: The MAGA clowns do not even know what they stand for. Retarded. at least they can articulate their beliefs. You just make dumbass statements and Whine like a baby. Did you have a point or..... Edited March 23 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: It depends on whose propaganda you believe, I guess. Of course the evil F's who are still in power don't want change. The whole reason they were slaughtering people was to stay in power. But when people were being slaughtered, they kept coming out. I think that shows a real willingness by millions of people to fight for change. 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Ya. I see your point. Im disappointed that they didn't do so 2 or 3 weeks ago. I think the problem now is that for better or worse that can is open and the worms are everywhere. As much as this situation is a total tar baby, Now that they have begun they kind of have to finish. If they leave the current regime in place then it will simply encourage them to be even more aggressive with their support of terrorist groups in the area. They will claim victory because they survived and look like heroes and martyrs. Well we might very well argue that America should not have gone in like this the fact of the matter is now that they did they have to finish the job we're just going to be one hell of a mess on the situation will be considerably worse in the not too distant future Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Johnston Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, CdnFox said: at least they can articulate their beliefs. You just make dumbass statements and Whine like a baby. Did you have a point or..... Belief in what? Trump lies and change his story minute to minute. What beliefs do they have? They don't have clue about what they are supposedly for or against. One day they want the pedo files, next day they don't. One day they don't want forver wars, next day they support never ending wars. One day they are against Israel, next day they support Israel. One day Rogan is a star, next day he is your enemy and on and on and on... Quote
CdnFox Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 11 minutes ago, John Johnston said: Belief in what? Anything at all? So far all you've done is come here and make childish elementary school level insults at people without offering any substantive thougths at all. You're like a Chihuahua who rides behind his fence and barks as the big dogs walk by. 13 minutes ago, John Johnston said: What beliefs do they have? They don't have clue about what they are supposedly for or against. That's perhaps you're stupid as comment to date. You can disagree with what they are for or against but there is no doubt that trump supporters and republicans in general are extremely clear about what they are for or against. Are you telling me you honestly don't know their position on illegal immigration? You're absolutely confused as to what their policy is with regards to repatriation of industry and use of tariffs? Unclear as to what they want to make America again? You would have to have more flavors of stupid going on than Baskin-Robbins has flavors of ice cream to believe that they don't understand what they believe in for better or worse. Seriously, that was the sound of your credibility flushing down the toilet in case you weren't sure They never supported pedophiles. They've never supported on ending war. How old are you? Honest to god you sound more like a kid every time you open your mouth. Here's a simple trick in life kid. If you find that you have to lie like this to make your point, then you don't have a very good point Why don't you take a minute and collect your thoughts and actually come back with something intelligent to offer to the conversation rather than just flailing your arms and peeing yourself. Is there a specific issue that's relevant to the topic at hand that you feel needs to be discussed and examined? You should be able to articulate it 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 32 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I think the problem now is that for better or worse that can is open and the worms are everywhere. As much as this situation is a total tar baby, Now that they have begun they kind of have to finish. If they leave the current regime in place then it will simply encourage them to be even more aggressive with their support of terrorist groups in the area. They will claim victory because they survived and look like heroes and martyrs. Well we might very well argue that America should not have gone in like this the fact of the matter is now that they did they have to finish the job we're just going to be one hell of a mess on the situation will be considerably worse in the not too distant future America is preparing their Marines. Trump says he has negotiations going. The Iranians deny that. An alliance of nations is forming to rule the Straight. And the Isrealis...are bombing Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank. Its friggin' ridiculous. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: America is preparing their Marines. Trump says he has negotiations going. The Iranians deny that. An alliance of nations is forming to rule the Straight. And the Isrealis...are bombing Lebanon, Gaza and the West Bank. Its friggin' ridiculous. Oh don't get me wrong, it is one hell of a mess. The backing out now would make it even more of a mess. The whole thing reminds me of Monty Python's reenactment of the battle of pearl harbour 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
John Johnston Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 12 hours ago, CdnFox said: Anything at all? So far all you've done is come here and make childish elementary school level insults at people without offering any substantive thougths at all. You're like a Chihuahua who rides behind his fence and barks as the big dogs walk by. That's perhaps you're stupid as comment to date. You can disagree with what they are for or against but there is no doubt that trump supporters and republicans in general are extremely clear about what they are for or against. Are you telling me you honestly don't know their position on illegal immigration? You're absolutely confused as to what their policy is with regards to repatriation of industry and use of tariffs? Unclear as to what they want to make America again? You would have to have more flavors of stupid going on than Baskin-Robbins has flavors of ice cream to believe that they don't understand what they believe in for better or worse. Seriously, that was the sound of your credibility flushing down the toilet in case you weren't sure They never supported pedophiles. They've never supported on ending war. How old are you? Honest to god you sound more like a kid every time you open your mouth. Here's a simple trick in life kid. If you find that you have to lie like this to make your point, then you don't have a very good point Why don't you take a minute and collect your thoughts and actually come back with something intelligent to offer to the conversation rather than just flailing your arms and peeing yourself. Is there a specific issue that's relevant to the topic at hand that you feel needs to be discussed and examined? You should be able to articulate it Did I hit a nerve? :) Quote
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