John Johnston Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 MAGA loyalist Representative Lauren Boebert has broken with President Trump yet again, as she tore into proposals to spend $200 billion to continue the administration’s war with Iran. Oh oh. Trump will kick her out of his Playhouse if she keeps it up. 🤣 Quote
paxamericana Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 5 hours ago, John Johnston said: Trump will kick her out of his Playhouse if she keeps it up. And yet the data shows overwhelming support by maga for the Iran war. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/20/poll-trump-maga-iran-war-support-00836556 Quote
John Johnston Posted March 21 Author Report Posted March 21 1 hour ago, paxamericana said: And yet the data shows overwhelming support by maga for the Iran war. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/20/poll-trump-maga-iran-war-support-00836556 Nobody said the MAGA bunch was intelligent. They remind me of fish on the beach flipping and flopping just like the Gold Fish in Whitehouse. Quote
John Johnston Posted March 21 Author Report Posted March 21 1 minute ago, John Johnston said: Nobody said the MAGA bunch was intelligent. They remind me of fish on the beach flipping and flopping just like the Gold Fish in Whitehouse. The MAGA clowns do not even know what they stand for. Retarded. 1 Quote
West Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 Conservatives have always been individualists. They aren't commies like the Democrats who will slap people around if they don't vote party line. Dems = cult. Especially cause their policies involve mutulating kids genitalia Quote
robosmith Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 8 hours ago, paxamericana said: And yet the data shows overwhelming support by maga for the Iran war. https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/20/poll-trump-maga-iran-war-support-00836556 OF course, because MAGA still believes the pathological LIAR, like you. For example Trump is claiming he is winding down the war while asking for $200B funding to continue it. One of those is a blatant LIE. Quote
Deluge Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 15 hours ago, John Johnston said: MAGA loyalist Representative Lauren Boebert has broken with President Trump yet again, as she tore into proposals to spend $200 billion to continue the administration’s war with Iran. Oh oh. Trump will kick her out of his Playhouse if she keeps it up. 🤣 Boebert's right. Trump needs to end this thing now. Quote
paxamericana Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 13 hours ago, robosmith said: 200B funding to continue it. “Cost money to kill bad guys” - Pete H. Sect DoW Quote
paxamericana Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 11 hours ago, Deluge said: Boebert's right. Trump needs to end this thing now. Under what conditions? Have we finished destroying their nuclear capability and set the stage for a negotiated settlement where the Iranian stop attacking their neighbors? If not then why stop the war? Quote
Deluge Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 33 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Under what conditions? Have we finished destroying their nuclear capability and set the stage for a negotiated settlement where the Iranian stop attacking their neighbors? If not then why stop the war? Who were they attacking before we got involved? I honestly don't know because my focus has been 100% on the US and getting our shit in order. What I've heard is that Israel dragged us into another one of their spats with Iran. Taht fake American Ben Shapiro lied when he said Israel doesn't need any help - they can fight their own wars. Quote
paxamericana Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Who were they attacking before we got involved? I honestly don't know because my focus has been 100% on the US and getting our shit in order. What I've heard is that Israel dragged us into another one of their spats with Iran. Taht fake American Ben Shapiro lied when he said Israel doesn't need any help - they can fight their own wars. Our interest align with the Israeli nothing more. But it’s also true that they have different interest than America. To be clear. The American position is to control the flow of oil in the Middle East , we don’t actually care which despot rule the damn place. Israel on the other hand want an Iran that is no longer a threat to their security. Where we align with Israel is the removal of the current regime who has allied itself to China. It’s also with in the US interest to not have Iran gain a nuclear weapon as that would set the stage for nuclear proliferation in the region. My conjecture is that if push came to shove, we actually want Iran to destroy all the Middle East’s oil production. Which would leave only North America/ Venezuela as the predominant supplier. Russian oil is being whittled away by the Ukrainian with US help. Edited March 22 by paxamericana Quote
robosmith Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 (edited) 7 hours ago, paxamericana said: “Cost money to kill bad guys” - Pete H. Sect DoW Too bad there's more "bad guys" than dollars in our treasury. You quoting an lDIOT just shows your insanity. Edited March 22 by robosmith 2 Quote
paxamericana Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 1 hour ago, robosmith said: your insanity Im your redeemer. A Shepard in the barren wasteland of the digital age. 1 hour ago, robosmith said: bad guys The reason they’re bad is because they think they can get away with it. It’s our public duty to prove them wrong. Quote
robosmith Posted March 22 Report Posted March 22 54 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Im your redeemer. A Shepard in the barren wasteland of the digital age. You're DELUSIONAL. 54 minutes ago, paxamericana said: The reason they’re bad is because they think they can get away with it. It’s our public duty to prove them wrong. You're talking about Trump, who routinely violates all ethical norms because he can get away with it. IF Congress were actually functional he would be impeached and convicted already. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 On 3/21/2026 at 12:08 PM, John Johnston said: Nobody said the MAGA bunch was intelligent. They remind me of fish on the beach flipping and flopping just like the Gold Fish in Whitehouse. At least we know how to define a woman. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Deluge Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 22 hours ago, paxamericana said: Our interest align with the Israeli nothing more. But it’s also true that they have different interest than America. To be clear. The American position is to control the flow of oil in the Middle East , we don’t actually care which despot rule the damn place. Israel on the other hand want an Iran that is no longer a threat to their security. Where we align with Israel is the removal of the current regime who has allied itself to China. It’s also with in the US interest to not have Iran gain a nuclear weapon as that would set the stage for nuclear proliferation in the region. My conjecture is that if push came to shove, we actually want Iran to destroy all the Middle East’s oil production. Which would leave only North America/ Venezuela as the predominant supplier. Russian oil is being whittled away by the Ukrainian with US help. The only "interest" I care about is domestic. As a registered voter, I want this "war" over quickly - I'm already sick of it. Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 18 minutes ago, Deluge said: The only "interest" I care about is domestic. Energy trade is global. Which will affect domestic energy prices to a degree. Quote
Deluge Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 7 minutes ago, paxamericana said: Energy trade is global. Which will affect domestic energy prices to a degree. Not if we drill locally. Sure, AI says we can't use domestic oil because our refineries are mostly "optimized" for foreign oil only, but that smells like bullshit. We need to get independent. Quote
Moonbox Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 44 minutes ago, Deluge said: Not if we drill locally. Sure, AI says we can't use domestic oil because our refineries are mostly "optimized" for foreign oil only, but that smells like bullshit. We need to get independent. Pretty comfy way of looking at the world, isn't it? If you don't like the answer/reality you're getting, it's just fake news. Refinery infrastructure is incredibly expensive and often takes decades to get a Return on Investment. A lot of drilling/pipeline/refining projects don't make sense for companies if oil is <$100/barrel. That's why there are thousands of issued drilling permanents for US shale, with nobody actually using them. That's a big reason why pipeline projects out of Alberta don't get anywhere. That's why Canada doesn't refine much of its own oil. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
LinkSoul60 Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 46 minutes ago, Deluge said: Not if we drill locally. Sure, AI says we can't use domestic oil because our refineries are mostly "optimized" for foreign oil only, but that smells like bullshit. We need to get independent. AI is correct. Most of your refineries are set-up to refine heavy crude which you mostly import from Canada. Keep up the nonsense and we'll cut you off... 1 1 Quote
John Johnston Posted March 23 Author Report Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: AI is correct. Most of your refineries are set-up to refine heavy crude which you mostly import from Canada. Keep up the nonsense and we'll cut you off... Lol. And no more Fish, and no more murdering our wildlife. 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) 28 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: we'll cut you off... You’re really wanting to be annexed forcibly huh? Don’t get too excited you’ll get your new driver licenses and passport in the mail. So don’t tempt us, we can make Venezuela and Iran look like child’s play. Edited March 23 by paxamericana Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 4 minutes ago, paxamericana said: You’re really wanting to be annexed forcibly huh? Don’t get too excited you’ll get your new driver licenses and passport in the mail. Don’t tempt us, we can make Venezuela and Iran look like child’s play. Settle down Uncle Sam, or the tap heading in your direction is the first to get shut off.... 1 Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Not if we drill locally. The issue isn’t drilling, we have enough crude for our own needs. It is refining capacity. And it’s a spectrum not a do or don’t. America does refine its own oil for domestic consumption but we also refine overseas crude as well. Oil is tied to the dollar hence petrol dollar. If we want to remain being the currency reserve of the world we need to trade in oil, specifically make other countries dependent on our oil. Hopes this clears it up for you. To @Moonbox point, it’s not that simple to remain an Isolationist, though I appreciate the sentiment, it has never worked out well for us. The world goes to shit and eventually cost us more in blood and treasure to fix. Want to be left alone? It’s cheaper to prevent a bigger war with a few minor war. Hence the sacrifice Trump is making now in regards to Cuba, Venezuela and Iran. Russia, China and N Korea is next on the chopping block. That’s the roadmap to being left alone. And a quick note this is all planned to take place within our lifetime. It’s not a next century thing. If things work as planned, we should see a collapse of China by the end of this decade and Russia to follow after that by the 2050. Edited March 23 by paxamericana Quote
paxamericana Posted March 23 Report Posted March 23 (edited) 14 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Settle down Uncle Sam, or the tap heading in your direction is the first to get shut off.... You want Abram’s tank rolling into Alberta yes? Just say so Canuck. You get to be American over night. It’s a win win for America either way. Edited March 23 by paxamericana Quote
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