Lunatic NDP members send email encouraging their crazy base to hate conservatives

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

I'm 100% willing to believe that you're pretend that you care about the environment in order to line your pockets but he's been quite clear that you don't actually care

He? Your toaster you mean?

Must be a Toshiba knock off, its a little more obvious where you learned English.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

He? Your toaster you mean?

Is that the name of one of the voices in your head? LOL

[Nationalist]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

Speaking for myself I value the environment more. You simply can't have enduring prosperity without it.

The environment eh?

So what part of the environment do you figure you're saving? Do you realize the climate change debate is over? Do you realize the fossil fuel regulations and taxes have accomplished nothing but inflation that your family will have to pay for?

You Libbies are such a contradiction. Drive prices up with your bullshit...then complain that prices are too high.

The stupidity is monumental. 

[CDN1]

19 hours ago, herbie said:

By implying the two things are in anyway way connected, your level of political ignorance is revealed. You are not a Conservative either.

I'd accuse you of playing dumb, but clearly you're incapable of that.

[Barquentine]

On 3/22/2026 at 10:10 AM, Nationalist said:

Conservatives would undo all the restrictions put in place to stifle business and prosperity.

So you want:

Sewage and toxic waste in the lake your kids swim in?

No safety rules so more construction workers are dying from 'accidents'?

Lovely blue smoggy air in all our cities?

More E Coli in your meat? Or do you prefer Salmonella?

No building codes? A little fire never hurt anyone, right?

Armed battles between Police and First Nations? All you want is more of their land- what's their problem?

Companies shouldn't have to pay taxes on their profits, right?

Wages? Minimum Shminimum!

Etc...

Yeah we need more economic activity. We just don't have to trash ourselves to do it.

[Nationalist]

32 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

So you want:

Sewage and toxic waste in the lake your kids swim in?

No safety rules so more construction workers are dying from 'accidents'?

Lovely blue smoggy air in all our cities?

More E Coli in your meat? Or do you prefer Salmonella?

No building codes? A little fire never hurt anyone, right?

Armed battles between Police and First Nations? All you want is more of their land- what's their problem?

Companies shouldn't have to pay taxes on their profits, right?

Wages? Minimum Shminimum!

Etc...

Yeah we need more economic activity. We just don't have to trash ourselves to do it.

Did I say any of that...Mr. Alarmist? No. But for shits and giggles, let's look at these...points...of yours.

1. Nobody wants sewage in the lake. Don't be a goof.

2. No construction safety? Again...why such a goofy point? I would say regulation and permitting representing up to 25% of a build is nonsense. 

3. Blue smoggy air? Goofy.

As is the rest of your...points. just goofy. As for the natives, most of them are good with pipelines and mining because their tribes get more work thus more funds. Those that oppose often do for inter-tribal squabbles. Any tribe that refuses federal access or annexation, are criminal according to Canadian law. If the natives decide Canadian laws don't govern them, then they might just wind up in jail.

In conclusion...your points are both alarmist and...goofy.

Edited March 23 by Nationalist

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The environment eh?

1. So what part of the environment do you figure you're saving?

2. Do you realize the climate change debate is over?

3. Do you realize the fossil fuel regulations and taxes have accomplished nothing but inflation that your family will have to pay for?

4. You Libbies are such a contradiction. Drive prices up with your bullshit...then complain that prices are too high.

5. The stupidity is monumental. 

1. As much as possible.

2. No, you're here debating it right now.

3.  No, carbon taxes are mice nuts compared to the inflation driven by climate change,

4.  I'm not complaining. In fact I just said I have no issue with paying more. There's no contradiction.

5. Smarten up then. 

 

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Did I say any of that...Mr. Alarmist? No. But for shits and giggles, let's look at these...points...of yours.

1. Nobody wants sewage in the lake. Don't be a goof.

2. No construction safety? Again...why such a goofy point? I would say regulation and permitting representing up to 25% of a build is nonsense. 

3. Blue smoggy air? Goofy.

As is the rest of your...points. just goofy. As for the natives, most of them are good with pipelines and mining because their tribes get more work thus more funds.

So what are all these regulations the Cons would do away with then?

Sounds like you want them all to stay in place.

I guess you haven't been to any cities to experience smog.

And yes, many first nations want economic projects, through negotiations, not government steam-rolling.

20 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Any tribe that refuses federal access or annexation, are criminal according to Canadian law.

You sure about that?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/principles-principes.html#:~:text=The Supreme Court of Canada,the land and its resources.

The Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that Aboriginal title gives the holder the right to use, control, and manage the land and the right to the economic benefits of the land and its resources. The Indigenous nation, as proper title holder, decides how to use and manage its lands for both traditional activities and modern purposes,

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So what are all these regulations the Cons would do away with then?

Sounds like you want them all to stay in place.

I guess you haven't been to any cities to experience smog.

And yes, many first nations want economic projects, through negotiations, not government steam-rolling.

You sure about that?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/principles-principes.html#:~:text=The Supreme Court of Canada,the land and its resources.

The Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that Aboriginal title gives the holder the right to use, control, and manage the land and the right to the economic benefits of the land and its resources. The Indigenous nation, as proper title holder, decides how to use and manage its lands for both traditional activities and modern purposes,

That figures. Canadian citizens have one law and a separate law for Indians. This country sucks!

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So what are all these regulations the Cons would do away with then?

Sounds like you want them all to stay in place.

I guess you haven't been to any cities to experience smog.

And yes, many first nations want economic projects, through negotiations, not government steam-rolling.

You sure about that?

https://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/csj-sjc/principles-principes.html#:~:text=The Supreme Court of Canada,the land and its resources.

The Supreme Court of Canada has confirmed that Aboriginal title gives the holder the right to use, control, and manage the land and the right to the economic benefits of the land and its resources. The Indigenous nation, as proper title holder, decides how to use and manage its lands for both traditional activities and modern purposes,

There are a lot of laws that are unnecessarily hinder without offering any additional protection, or are insanely bureaucratic, or expensive way Beyond their value

As an example, we have the no pipeline law which prevents companies from seriously considering building pipelines in Canada. Rather than getting rid of that law Carney said he'll keep the law in place but create an entire department with all of the associated expenses around the idea that they can create magic zones under special circumstances if they feel like it and that they would use this to allow the very pipelines that the no pipeline law is denying

This despite the fact that ottawa can kill any pipeline it wants anyway during the regulatory process that used to be in place

As a result no companies are coming forward to look at a pipeline in Canada because they aren't interested in the regulatory environment. That's a quote from them

You can still have full environmental cooperation and protection with a quarter of the laws making it much easier for companies to know exactly what will and will not be passed and to make it worth it for them to apply.

 

[ironstone]

More insanity from NDP frontrunner Avi Lewis.

NDP frontrunner proposes mass amnesties, waves of new asylum-seekers
Avi Lewis called it 'anti-immigrant backlash' to draw a line between high immigration and real estate affordability

Despite skyrocketing Canadian dissatisfaction with immigration rates, NDP leadership hopeful Avi Lewis has just proposed restoring immigration numbers to their post-COVID highs, and re-opening the borders to millions of potential asylum-seekers from the United States.
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In an interview with the immigrant-centric publication New Canadian Media, Lewis advocated for the mass-amnesty of temporary migrants and the importation of “many more” international students.
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Lewis also called for an end to the Safe Third Country Agreement with the U.S., which would allow anyone in the United States to claim asylum in Canada.

The left has lost its collective mind. https://archive.ph/JqwlC#selection-3785.0-3809.152

Despite this madness, if there is to be even the slightest hope for the Conservatives, this radical needs to slice into Liberal support in a way that the radical Jagmeet never could.

[CdnFox]

41 minutes ago, ironstone said:

More insanity from NDP frontrunner Avi Lewis.

NDP frontrunner proposes mass amnesties, waves of new asylum-seekers
Avi Lewis called it 'anti-immigrant backlash' to draw a line between high immigration and real estate affordability

Despite skyrocketing Canadian dissatisfaction with immigration rates, NDP leadership hopeful Avi Lewis has just proposed restoring immigration numbers to their post-COVID highs, and re-opening the borders to millions of potential asylum-seekers from the United States.
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In an interview with the immigrant-centric publication New Canadian Media, Lewis advocated for the mass-amnesty of temporary migrants and the importation of “many more” international students.
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Lewis also called for an end to the Safe Third Country Agreement with the U.S., which would allow anyone in the United States to claim asylum in Canada.

The left has lost its collective mind. https://archive.ph/JqwlC#selection-3785.0-3809.152

Despite this madness, if there is to be even the slightest hope for the Conservatives, this radical needs to slice into Liberal support in a way that the radical Jagmeet never could.

I just don't see that many people getting behind this guy. He's just so far left. That only works when things are going really well and people can afford it, but I don't think it's the right call for the moment

[Barquentine]

15 hours ago, ironstone said:

Despite this madness, if there is to be even the slightest hope for the Conservatives, this radical needs to slice into Liberal support in a way that the radical Jagmeet never could.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your POV) Avi Lewis will take the NDP too far to the left.

Gone are the Heydays of Broadbent, Layton, and Mulcair.

[Barquentine]

18 hours ago, CdnFox said:

As an example, we have the no pipeline law which prevents companies from seriously considering building pipelines in Canada.

Companies will be interested when pipelines are a profitable investment. Oil is temporarily high but will drop back down in a few months. If a company comes forward that law will quickly be amended or dropped.

[ironstone]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on your POV) Avi Lewis will take the NDP too far to the left.

Gone are the Heydays of Broadbent, Layton, and Mulcair.

I don't think there is all that much difference now between the NDP and the Liberals. Carney is talking out of both side of his mouth and it helps him tremendously. He can talk about reforming immigration while at the same time he plans to give amnesty to all those people that overstay their visa's and while also allowing IRGC members in. He brags about his MOU's , but those projects likely won't ever come to fruition.

He is being judged by his words because real accomplishments don't seem to matter to the majority of Canadians.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Companies will be interested when pipelines are a profitable investment.

Pipelines are a profitable investment. And in fact many of our Canadian companies are investing in and building pipelines in the states right now. So it's not that they don't want to build pipelines.

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Oil is temporarily high but will drop back down in a few months. If a company comes forward that law will quickly be amended or dropped.

Like I said they're already building Pipelines. Enbridge was clear that they were investing money into pipelines just not in Canada because specifically of the regulatory environment

I know your buddy Justin Trudeau tried to argue that there's no business case for natural gas but it turns out they're really actually is

But who's going to propose a pipeline to a coast that has a tankerman? Who's going to propose a pipeline where the regulatory burden is so high it's impossible to meet? Especially when it costs a couple of hundred million just to put a proposal together

The answer is nobody, and they absolutely would if that wasn't the case

This isn't complex and it's not a problem with the cost of oil

[ironstone]

There doesn't to be much interest brewing for this leadership race. Even most so-called NDP supporters don't seem to care.

Nearly half of NDP supporters don't know who is running for party leader

 

Voting is underway in the federal NDP leadership race, but a new poll shows the party faces a steep challenge connecting with its own supporters.

With five candidates vying to take the reins, many past New Democrat voters have little idea who they are or who would make the best leader.

Research from the Angus Reid Institute, surveying more than 1,100 Canadians who voted NDP in at least one of the last four federal elections, found 44% of them do not recognize any of the leadership candidates.

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/nearly-half-of-ndp-supporters-dont-know-who-is-running-for-party-leader/72213

Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised as these are typically the folks that think workers should seize the means of production and all the other left-wing lunacy.

 

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, ironstone said:

There doesn't to be much interest brewing for this leadership race. Even most so-called NDP supporters don't seem to care.

Nearly half of NDP supporters don't know who is running for party leader

 

Voting is underway in the federal NDP leadership race, but a new poll shows the party faces a steep challenge connecting with its own supporters.

With five candidates vying to take the reins, many past New Democrat voters have little idea who they are or who would make the best leader.

Research from the Angus Reid Institute, surveying more than 1,100 Canadians who voted NDP in at least one of the last four federal elections, found 44% of them do not recognize any of the leadership candidates.

https://www.westernstandard.news/news/nearly-half-of-ndp-supporters-dont-know-who-is-running-for-party-leader/72213

Perhaps we shouldn't be surprised as these are typically the folks that think workers should seize the means of production and all the other left-wing lunacy.

 

The media went far far far out of their way to not do any more stories on this race than absolutely necessary. 

They did more stories and interviews between candidates in one month of the liberal leadership race than they've done in an entire year on this one. 

I don't think the media wanted anyone to be thinking bout the ndp. And the ndp didn't do a great job of self promotion. 

The guy how's most likely to win is the worst possible leader for them as well. 

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

your buddy Justin Trudeau 

 tankerman? Who's going to propose a pipeline where the regulatory burden is so high it's impossible to meet?

Not my buddy. (I caught him cheating at chess a few too many times.)

WTF is a tankerman?

And again, which regulations do you want to get rid of. "Too many regulations!" is just a right wing slogan.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Not my buddy. (I caught him cheating at chess a few too many times.)

You mean he's dishonest? Sounds like a perfect match   

 

4 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

WTF is a tankerman?

A misspellling of tankerban.  LOL i guess that code was just too hard for your leftie brain to crack was it?    ROLMAO!!! 

4 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And again, which regulations do you want to get rid of. "Too many regulations!" is just a right wing slogan.

I've pointed out two of the biggest.  The so called no pipeline act (Impact Assessment Act (IAA) and  the Canadian Energy Regulator Act (CERA))  and the no oil tanker bans. 

me "Here's two specific examples"

you "WHAT REGULATIONS COULD YOU POSSIBLY MEAN!!?!?!?!?"

C'mon dude. Don't complain that you don't have specifics after you're given specifics.  And the pipeline industries have pointed out those two specifically (nobody builds a pipeline to nowhere as enbridge said)  and the mining and other development sectors point to the first one as being a deal killer.  Those were specifically designed to kill pipelines and resource development 

And there's a lot more examples out there. 

You can have strong protections without having useless and unnecessary red tape 

And yes, that is indeed a conservative slogan.  I suppose that means "not enough red tape' is a liberal one? That's really not something to be proud of. 

If we're going to succeed we need strong resource development.  Period. We can have protections and we can be smart about it but we can't block it, and that's what the current laws do.  And now we're basically in a low grade recession and have been for a year or two depending on which economist you talk to. 

 

 

[herbie]

If left is right and right is wrong
it's time to decide what side you're on...

No Cancom prize but sure seems like musical cycles repeat, eh?

[herbie]

On 3/25/2026 at 10:09 AM, ironstone said:

Voting is underway in the federal NDP leadership race

Less one voter this time. No one to vote for..... just to keep the office lights on until 2030 something?

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, herbie said:

Less one voter this time. No one to vote for..... just to keep the office lights on until 2030 something?

Parties must be built.  Occasionally when they become corrupt they have to be destroyed and rebuilt from scratch. If you believe in their principles at all that's what you do

The conservatives went through this federally and provincially here in British Columbia. It's a long and painful process but occasionally it's necessary

If you ever believed that the MVP stood for something then you should be out there helping pick a leader that's going to rebuild a party in the image that you can be proud of.\

As you have claimed to be an NDP supporter I would strongly encourage you to look at the candidates and pick one you think will help create a party that's worth supporting.

Unless you've just been lying and have been a liberal supporter all along much like eyeball

[Barquentine]

21 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"not enough red tape'

A civil servant is someone who cuts red tape - lengthwise!

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

A civil servant is someone who cuts red tape - lengthwise!

Sad but true regardless of the gov't.  It IS absolutely necessary to regularly go back and clean the cobwebs and make sure that what we have is only what we need or nothing gets done, and that's not particularly 'left or right', that's just gov't.