CdnFox Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 Productivity is an urgent problem for Canada. The response? A 15-year study - The Globe and Mail Not even kidding. Every economist says we have a critical and urgent problem that needs immediate solutions - so Carney is going to spend 15 years studding it and get right back to us on that. and the kick in the teeth is we know what the problems are. There's no mystery, there's no need for any study, this has been around for a decade and the issue overall has been studied for much longer than that. So we know what needs to happen. But friends of carney will now get rich writing this report which they'll spend maybe a total of 20 hours on. And we'll spend millions. And the problems will persist. for anyone who thought things would get better under Carney, my condolences for your shattered dreams 2 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Legato Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Productivity is an urgent problem for Canada. The response? A 15-year study - The Globe and Mail Not even kidding. Every economist says we have a critical and urgent problem that needs immediate solutions - so Carney is going to spend 15 years studding it and get right back to us on that. and the kick in the teeth is we know what the problems are. There's no mystery, there's no need for any study, this has been around for a decade and the issue overall has been studied for much longer than that. So we know what needs to happen. But friends of carney will now get rich writing this report which they'll spend maybe a total of 20 hours on. And we'll spend millions. And the problems will persist. for anyone who thought things would get better under Carney, my condolences for your shattered dreams and the Carney acolytes will defend this as being a profound example of how the Carney is working hard for Canadians. You can't fix ...... 1 1 Quote
Shady Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 It’s unbelievable how badly governed Canada is, and has been for over a decade. A 15 year study to solve a problem that needs to be solved ASAP. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 26 minutes ago, Shady said: It’s unbelievable how badly governed Canada is, and has been for over a decade. A 15 year study to solve a problem that needs to be solved ASAP. Worse, a problem we already know the answer to it's right up there with a15 year study of why the sun rises in the east , And we haven't seen the last of the funding for it. It'll be jobs for his buds. And worse, before the end they'll ask for at least one extension 1 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
LinkSoul60 Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 I wouldn't expect either of you three to understand but you'd figure the guy who wrote the op ed would... It's a $6B investment over 15 years with studies the will help drive solutions in productivity as policies, our economy, and the world evolves. The world changes and so do policies. You obviously do but have to ask...... Do you guys seriously think they're going to meet for 15 years then report back with recommendations??? 😂 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I wouldn't expect either of you three to understand but you'd figure the guy who wrote the op ed would... It's a $6B investment over 15 years with studies the will help drive solutions in productivity as policies, our economy, and the world evolves. The world changes and so do policies. You obviously do but have to ask...... Do you guys seriously think they're going to meet for 15 years then report back with recommendations??? 😂 $6B invested in what. How to teach the fairies to fly in formation. Hayzeus man you're easily fooled. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Shady said: It’s unbelievable how badly governed Canada is, and has been for over a decade. Hmmm, it seemed unbelievable 4 decades ago too. Maybe its like climate change catastrophism where things never seem as bad as they say. But then why are there so many old boats littering the coast and why are the fish plants in ruins? It must have seemed like good governance to someone I suppose. Edited February 22 by eyeball 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ironstone Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I wouldn't expect either of you three to understand but you'd figure the guy who wrote the op ed would... It's a $6B investment over 15 years with studies the will help drive solutions in productivity as policies, our economy, and the world evolves. The world changes and so do policies. You obviously do but have to ask...... Do you guys seriously think they're going to meet for 15 years then report back with recommendations??? 😂 From the link: Our economic institutions have catalogued, repeatedly, the same structural failures: a complex tax system that punishes investment, entrepreneurship and growth; a regulatory apparatus so stifling and unpredictable that capital flows elsewhere; protected oligopolies in key sectors (telecom, airlines, banking and agriculture) that face little competitive pressure to innovate; strained trade and transport infrastructure that can’t move our goods to global markets or people efficiently within our borders; an immigration system that drifted toward low-wage temporary workers who substitute for capital, displacing the high-skilled talent that complements it; and a public sector growing in size but declining in effectiveness and productivity. The Liberal government hasn't really addressed these problems much since 2015 have they? Who's been consistently calling for a reduction in red tape, raising alarms about the massive increase in the size of the public service, government spending, and revamping of our disastrous mass immigration policy for year now? Poilievre, the leader that gets hammered by the mainstream media day after day. Shout out to IamGroot for that VERY helpful archive link! 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
LinkSoul60 Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 20 minutes ago, ironstone said: The Liberal government hasn't really addressed these problems much since 2015 have they? No they haven't. Wonder if that has something to do with this national research project? 22 minutes ago, ironstone said: Who's been consistently calling for a reduction in red tape, raising alarms about the massive increase in the size of the public service, government spending, and revamping of our disastrous mass immigration policy for year now? It's either been the Pillow Guy or the guy who has little substance, is generally uncooperative, and has an affinity with slogans? 28 minutes ago, ironstone said: Poilievre, the leader that gets hammered by the mainstream media day after day. A person can only take so much. If only there was more rebel news for the masses....people would appreciate him more. Good thing for Pierre he won't have to get beat too much longer. 1 Quote
ironstone Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: It's either been the Pillow Guy or the guy who has little substance, is generally uncooperative, and has an affinity with slogans? 'Build Canada strong!' 'The world is a dangerous and divided place!' 'Bringing down the costs for Canadians and helping them get ahead!' These sound familiar? 11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: A person can only take so much. If only there was more rebel news for the masses....people would appreciate him more. Good thing for Pierre he won't have to get beat too much longer. This time around, you praise the great banker with a hyped up record. The Liberals went head over heels for the drama teacher despite his repeated failures, and now have gone gaga for Goldman Sachs type banker with a long record of pushing policies that directly benefits himself. The worst part is, it won't matter if Carney is equally as bad as Trudeau for an equal period of time if history repeats itself. 3 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
Legato Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 12 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: No they haven't. Wonder if that has something to do with this national research project? It's either been the Pillow Guy or the guy who has little substance, is generally uncooperative, and has an affinity with slogans? A person can only take so much. If only there was more rebel news for the masses....people would appreciate him more. Good thing for Pierre he won't have to get beat too much longer. Why are you frightened of Poilivere? You should be thankful he provided all the Liberal idea's which the Carney snatched up without a second glance. 1 1 Quote
Shady Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 14 hours ago, eyeball said: Hmmm, it seemed unbelievable 4 decades ago too. Maybe its like climate change catastrophism where things never seem as bad as they say. But then why are there so many old boats littering the coast and why are the fish plants in ruins? It must have seemed like good governance to someone I suppose. Per capita GDP pre Liberals 2014: USA 55,304 Canada 50,960 Post Liberals 2025: USA 91,900. Canada 54,000. We’ve almost been lapped in economic growth since the Liberals took office. Canadian dollar vs US dollar: 2014. 90 cents. 2025. 73 cents. Add to that, the Liberals have added more debt since they took office than every other previous government in the history of Canada COMBINED. With nothing to show for it. Other than higher debt servicing costs. In fact, for the first time in history, Canada spends more on interest on debt than on heath care. The fact that you can defend this atrocious record means you must be a boomer, or close to a boomer, or you’re a mindless partisan cultist. 1 Quote
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Shady said: The fact that you can defend this atrocious record means you must be a boomer, or close to a boomer, or you’re a mindless partisan cultist. The fact you think I'm defending the Liberals here means you're a loon. All you people are like this when faced with anyone who doesn't automatically worship the Conservatives. You're like ISIS fanatics who go around lopping off the heads of anyone who won't recite your Koran. Edited February 22 by eyeball Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 16 hours ago, Legato said: and the Carney acolytes will defend this as being a profound example of how the Carney is working hard for Canadians. You can't fix ...... And that it's all harper's fault in the first place Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: The fact you think I'm defending the Liberals here means you're a loon. Everybody can see that you're defending the liberals. You constantly 24 hours a day defend the liberals, unless you take a short break to defend Hamas Pretending that it somehow our fault that you defend such a corrupt and incompetent group of people is laughable, even if it is predictable. Your choice and leadership has destroyed the country for at least a generation probably three. And you're just happy as a clam to explain to everybody why you're proud of your choices 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Shady Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 29 minutes ago, eyeball said: The fact you think I'm defending the Liberals here means you're a loon. All you people are like this when faced with anyone who doesn't automatically worship the Conservatives. You're like ISIS fanatics who go around lopping off the heads of anyone who won't recite your Koran. Nobody was saying you need to automatically worship conservatives. That’s a false argument. You just need to recognize the reality of what the Liberals have done to Canada, and stop making excuses for it. 2 Quote
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, Shady said: Nobody was saying you need to automatically worship conservatives. That’s a false argument. You just need to recognize the reality of what the Liberals have done to Canada, and stop making excuses for it. I'm well aware of that reality, I'm just saying Conservatives have had an equal hand in wrecking things. You're as blinded by partisanship as ISIS fanatics are blinded by their faith. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm well aware of that reality, I'm just saying Conservatives have had an equal hand in wrecking things. You're as blinded by partisanship as ISIS fanatics are blinded by their faith. I’ve pointed out the data from when conservatives were in office. It paints a much better picture than after the Liberals took power. The conservatives have had no hand in the policies implemented over the last 11 years, and the terrible results of them. That’s completely on the Liberals and NDP that kept them in power. You need to own the sh!tty policies you helped enact. You need to own the results of them, and stop trying to blame other people. 2 Quote
CdnFox Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm well aware of that reality, I'm just saying Conservatives have had an equal hand in wrecking things. They do not. Not at all. It's not even remotely close. No sensible person who has any knowledge of history could make that argument Which is why you're fooling no one and we know you're attempting to defend the liberals. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted February 22 Author Report Posted February 22 Just now, Shady said: I’ve pointed out the data from when conservatives were in office. It paints a much better picture than after the Liberals took power. The conservatives have had no hand in the policies implemented over the last 11 years, and the terrible results of them. That’s completely on the Liberals and NDP that kept them in power. You need to own the sh!tty policies you helped enact. You need to own the results of them, and stop trying to blame other people. He knows. He's lying. He has spent many pages in the past trying to make the argument that Justin Trudeau's crimes where in fact Stephen Harper's fault. I won't bore you with the argument but it was just a stupid as this Eyeball wants to defend people like the liberals, Hamas, other groups which are currently undefensible. So you will see again and again his habit is to make statements that clearly support those groups and then attempt to back it off by claiming but he's not trying to support them and it's your fault. On the left these days although he certainly a more prolific example. It's important to learn the argument pattern so that you can counter it easily 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 Just now, Shady said: I’ve pointed out the data from when conservatives were in office. It paints a much better picture than after the Liberals took power. I think the dead industry I'm pointing at that both parties had an equal hand in destroying leaves a longer lasting impression. These old dead boats and fishplants will also be leaching pollution into the environment for decades I might add. 4 minutes ago, Shady said: You need to own the sh!tty policies you helped enact. You need to own the results of them, and stop trying to blame other people. You need to look at more than 10-11 years of data. I've been experiencing 40 years of evidence piling up around here. I see it every day. It's that starkly obvious. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: They do not. Not at all. It's not even remotely close. No sensible person who has any knowledge of history could make that argument. For anyone living on the coast it's really easy to make that argument. The evidence that's piled up on our coast speaks for itself. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, eyeball said: You need to look at more than 10-11 years of data. I've been experiencing 40 years of evidence piling up around here. I see it every day. It's that starkly obvious. and your brilliant solution to counter was to keep voting NDP, way to go Homer. Quote
eyeball Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 4 minutes ago, Legato said: and your brilliant solution to counter was to keep voting NDP, way to go Homer. Yes, to prevent a majority government, Liberal in this case. You're welcome. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted February 22 Report Posted February 22 27 minutes ago, eyeball said: I think the dead industry I'm pointing at that both parties had an equal hand in destroying leaves a longer lasting impression. These old dead boats and fishplants will also be leaching pollution into the environment for decades I might add. You need to look at more than 10-11 years of data. I've been experiencing 40 years of evidence piling up around here. I see it every day. It's that starkly obvious. Sure, let’s look at 40 years of data. per capita GDP in Canada was 11,000 in 1980. In the United States it was 12,000. The massive difference didn’t occur until the Liberals started implementing their terrible economic policies, and immigration policies in 2015. So even 40 years ago, Canada was on par with the United States. It’s under the Liberals exclusively, that we’ve been lapped economically. Start taking responsibility for the sh!tty policies helped enact over the last 11 years. Stop trying to blame other people for your failures. Quote
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