Barquentine Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 https://www.newsweek.com/canada-pm-weighing-military-presence-in-greenland-report-11379395 "Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney is reportedly weighing the possibility of sending a military presence to Greenland for exercises with allies of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) amid escalating tensions over the territory after President Donald Trump said he wants to acquire the Arctic island, according to two senior Canadian officials who spoke to CBC News." IMHO that would be a big mistake. Why poke the bear with dementia? A simple sound bite about supporting Nato, sacrosanct borders, ETC... but more troops (We have some there with Norad) not necessarry... DON'T DO IT MARK! 1 Quote
John Stone Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 .......... does this mean a reduction in Latvia? Oh, Canada! 1 Quote
herbie Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Oh, everything is a pie. You can't do two things at the same time. Bow to Can'tsevative reasoning. We should be sending troops as a show and even better show if some were Inuit Rangers. It's not the other side of the world, it's next door, 1 3 Quote
suds Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Has anyone considered there might be a method to Trump's madness? First he threatened Nato which resulted in greatly increasing defense spending among Nato membership. He threatened to take the Panama Canal by force if necessary which resulted in a new defense and security pact greatly reducing Chinese influence, and giving priority to U.S. warships. Then there's the Venezuela chapter (while still ongoing) is in the process of removing all Chinese and Russian influence in that area as well. Now he threatens to invade Greenland which leads to a number of Nato members offering to militarize which maybe they should have done in the first place. It would be nice to see a contingent of Canadian forces there as well. We don't seem to realize that the world's getting a lot smaller and it is after all right in our own backyard. 1 1 Quote
Nefarious Banana Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 2 minutes ago, suds said: Has anyone considered there might be a method to Trump's madness? First he threatened Nato which resulted in greatly increasing defense spending among Nato membership. He threatened to take the Panama Canal by force if necessary which resulted in a new defense and security pact greatly reducing Chinese influence, and giving priority to U.S. warships. Then there's the Venezuela chapter (while still ongoing) is in the process of removing all Chinese and Russian influence in that area as well. Now he threatens to invade Greenland which leads to a number of Nato members offering to militarize which maybe they should have done in the first place. It would be nice to see a contingent of Canadian forces there as well. We don't seem to realize that the world's getting a lot smaller and it is after all right in our own backyard. Trump's the 'front man' . . . who's doing the heavy thinking behind these 'new' American policies? Quote
eyeball Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 17 minutes ago, suds said: We don't seem to realize that the world's getting a lot smaller and it is after all right in our own backyard. I've been saying it for years... Wanna bet Trump is as utterly clueless about polar distortion or area inflation at high latitudes on maps as he is about who sends him his tariffs? 2 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
suds Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Flyer old buddy, what are you confused about? Threatening allies would not be my first choice in getting things done. But if that's what it takes.... 1 Quote
suds Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 42 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said: Trump's the 'front man' . . . who's doing the heavy thinking behind these 'new' American policies? I don't really see Trump as a 'front man' type of President. He's certainly no Joe Biden. He appoints advisors who think exactly the same way he does. Which in my opinion is not a good thing. Basically, he's just doing the same thing as China's been doing in trying to gain influence in strategic and resource rich parts of the world. Only he's a little more rough around the edges. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 Yeah, we should try to re-do 1812. I'm pretty sure that Carney is the type of guy that would win against a war against the US. Elbows up! 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
ExFlyer Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 (edited) 17 hours ago, suds said: Flyer old buddy, what are you confused about? Threatening allies would not be my first choice in getting things done. But if that's what it takes.... Confused if you are pro Trump or anti trump or don't care Trump. As I recall, he never threatened NATO allies, only said he wanted Greenland. Trump just posted an email telling the PM of Denmark that he is doing this because they would not give him the Nobel Peace Prize. This has nothing to do with politics or threats...it is because he is pissed that his ego was not satisfied. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/norwegian-leader-says-he-received-trump-message-that-reportedly-ties-greenland-to-nobel-peace-prize Also, Greenland has been the point of numerous NATO exercises and can be again. Edited January 20 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 37 minutes ago, suds said: I don't really see Trump as a 'front man' type of President. He's certainly no Joe Biden. He appoints advisors who think exactly the same way he does. Which in my opinion is not a good thing. Basically, he's just doing the same thing as China's been doing in trying to gain influence in strategic and resource rich parts of the world. Only he's a little more rough around the edges. Last time he was prez, he surrounded himself with bootlickers as well except then, those bootlickers saw through him and either quit or argued with him and got fired. This time, he surrounded himself with booltickers that he has something over them. (dirty pictures or other incriminating evidence/intelligence) It seems to me that all politicians surround themselves with like minded people. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
suds Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Confused if you re pro Trump or anti trump or don't care Trump. As I recall, he never threatened NATO allies, only said he wanted Greenland. Trump just posted an email telling the PM of Denmark that he is doing this because they would not give him the Nobel Peace Prize. This has nothing to do with politics or threats...it is because he is pissed that his ego was not satisfied. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/norwegian-leader-says-he-received-trump-message-that-reportedly-ties-greenland-to-nobel-peace-prize Also, Greenland has been the point of numerous NATO exercises and can be again. I generally try to call things as I see them on these boards. I find if you don't, you end up in these untenable situations where you end up arguing over things you don't actually believe in. Another rule I follow is that when you're wrong and you know you're wrong, admit it, and bow out gracefully. As for Trump, I've always considered him to be a bullshi*ter. Maybe it's part of the art of the deal or whatever, but you can't believe everything that comes out of his mouth. However he is threatening our sovereignty by threatening us with tariffs which he knows threatens our economy. Greenland as I understand it is a self governing part of Denmark (which is a Nato member) making Nato's obligations apply to Greenland as well. And if he ever does decide to invade Greenland, then he becomes a threat to Nato as well. Edited January 19 by suds Quote
suds Posted January 19 Report Posted January 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Last time he was prez, he surrounded himself with bootlickers as well except then, those bootlickers saw through him and either quit or argued with him and got fired. This time, he surrounded himself with booltickers that he has something over them. (dirty pictures or other incriminating evidence/intelligence) It seems to me that all politicians surround themselves with like minded people. Ok, I can agree with most of that. So the thing is.... do you see him as a 'frontman'? I do not. Do you think China's any different? In my opinion they might be more subtle in doing it, but basically they're doing the same thing by putting pressure on other countries to bend to their will. Edited January 19 by suds Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 13 hours ago, suds said: I generally try to call things as I see them on these boards. I find if you don't, you end up in these untenable situations where you end up arguing over things you don't actually believe in. Another rule I follow is that when you're wrong and you know you're wrong, admit it, and bow out gracefully. As for Trump, I've always considered him to be a bullshi*ter. Maybe it's part of the art of the deal or whatever, but you can't believe everything that comes out of his mouth. However he is threatening our sovereignty by threatening us with tariffs which he knows threatens our economy. Greenland as I understand it is a self governing part of Denmark (which is a Nato member) making Nato's obligations apply to Greenland as well. And if he ever does decide to invade Greenland, then he becomes a threat to Nato as well. That is all I asked...are you for or against Trump. I found your post confusing. I did not berate or attack you. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 13 hours ago, suds said: Ok, I can agree with most of that. So the thing is.... do you see him as a 'frontman'? I do not. Do you think China's any different? In my opinion they might be more subtle in doing it, but basically they're doing the same thing by putting pressure on other countries to bend to their will. Not sure your definition of a "frontman" is? A leader? The puppet or the man actually in charge? In control or being controlled? Nope and as I said "It seems to me that all politicians surround themselves with like minded people? We were talking about a person as opposed to a country. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
paxamericana Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 21 hours ago, John Stone said: Oh, Canada! Indeed Quote
suds Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: That is all I asked...are you for or against Trump. I found your post confusing. I did not berate or attack you. Why do I have to be either for or against someone? I'm the type of person who doesn't blindly follow no one. I judge people by their actions, and in Trump's case not necessarily on what they say. You likely found my answer confusing because I found your question confusing. And no, you did not berate or attack me. Quote
ExFlyer Posted January 20 Report Posted January 20 14 minutes ago, suds said: Why do I have to be either for or against someone? I'm the type of person who doesn't blindly follow no one. I judge people by their actions, and in Trump's case not necessarily on what they say. You likely found my answer confusing because I found your question confusing. And no, you did not berate or attack me. You don't. Sorry I asked. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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