ExFlyer Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 49 minutes ago, Venandi said: Not my part ship (as they say) but since there are some AI fans here, this is what the bot thinks about farming vs the automobile sector: SECTOR CONTRIBUTION TO GDP EMPLOYMENT (% OF TOTAL) KEY HIGHLIGHTS Farming 1.6% to 1.8% 1% Major employer in agri-food sectors. Automotive ~6.3% Industry Directly: 0.6% Contributes ~$19.2 billion in GDP. Mining 5.2% to 7.8% ~1% Supports ~694,000 jobs directly and indirectly. Fisheries ~2% ~90,000 jobs Over $9 billion contribution to GDP. Only fisheries indicates how many workers. But it looks like the auto sector is lagging .. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 51 minutes ago, Venandi said: Not my part ship (as they say) but since there are some AI fans here, this is what the bot thinks about farming vs the automobile sector: SECTOR CONTRIBUTION TO GDP EMPLOYMENT (% OF TOTAL) KEY HIGHLIGHTS Farming 1.6% to 1.8% 1% Major employer in agri-food sectors. Automotive ~6.3% Industry Directly: 0.6% Contributes ~$19.2 billion in GDP. Mining 5.2% to 7.8% ~1% Supports ~694,000 jobs directly and indirectly. Fisheries ~2% ~90,000 jobs Over $9 billion contribution to GDP. Which would be entirely relevant if the deal benefited all farmers. But it doesn't even come remotely close4 For canola: Direct/Indirect Contribution: While some estimates place the direct GDP contribution around $5 billion, the overall economic footprint (including processing, crushing, and exporting) is much higher, with $25 billion originating specifically from growing and developing canola. For automotive The Canadian automotive industry is a cornerstone of the national economy, directly contributing over $16 billion (CAD) to the GDP in 2024, with total economic activity, including related sectors and suppliers, reaching higher figures. It is one of Canada's largest manufacturing sectors, supporting over 125,000 direct jobs and roughly 427,000 in total. So comparing direct to direct it's 5 billion for canola vs 16 billion for automotive. Both generate substantial additional money in shipping, supplies etc. Even if we toss in lobsters it's not like canola and fish are a bigger deal. both are important. Both generate a lot of economic activity. But the number seem to indicate that we can't really afford to give up one for the other, no matter how you slice it that's a loss Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
herbie Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 39 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: But it looks like the auto sector is lagging .. And it ain't China;s fault is it? Just a scapegoat to blame for what's already happening. BTW: CM just announced Chevt's dropping production of the Bolt. Again. Trump's anti-EV push has sent the domestics running away at full speed. So now he threatens us with 100%tariffs unless HE totally decides what cars Canadians can buy. Adopt a GST tax writeoff for buyers of Cdn built vehicles. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 53 minutes ago, herbie said: And it ain't China;s fault is it? Nope, it's carney's for letting them in Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 On 1/24/2026 at 3:25 PM, CdnFox said: Nope, it's carney's for letting them in So it is weeks after the China deal and ..... Ahh yes...lets save the Canadian (Ontario) auto sector. Boycott everything LOL So, doing that will save Ontario jobs NOT!!! GM just slows down more plants in Oshawa laying off 1200 people. https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/gm-cuts-oshawa-shift-1-161755199.html https://www.cp24.com/local/toronto/2026/01/29/1000-people-will-lose-their-jobs-as-gm-cuts-third-shift-at-oshawa-plant-unifor/ Yup, lets boycott to save auto sector jobs.... and this is what you get. Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: So it is weeks after the China deal and ..... ...and Canadian Factory, Wholesale Sales Dented by Auto Industry Weakness - WSJ 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Ahh yes...lets save the Canadian (Ontario) auto sector. Boycott everything LOL Or just don't give china open access to the market unless they're willing to invest in auto production in Canada. I know, crazy thought 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: GM just slows down more plants in Oshawa laying off 1200 people. Which proves that what carney did was bad. Investment will continue to flee and the auto sector will wind down and die and there's nothing to replace it. The deal carney did hurts us more than it helps us and at best if you are truly optimistic it'll be a break even. So if we break even and the Chinese benefit substantially how is it a win for us? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: ...and Canadian Factory, Wholesale Sales Dented by Auto Industry Weakness - WSJ Or just don't give china open access to the market unless they're willing to invest in auto production in Canada. I know, crazy thought Which proves that what carney did was bad. Investment will continue to flee and the auto sector will wind down and die and there's nothing to replace it. The deal carney did hurts us more than it helps us and at best if you are truly optimistic it'll be a break even. So if we break even and the Chinese benefit substantially how is it a win for us? HA HA HA...Carney did not cry boycott... that was Ford and then he realized better things to come and backed off. GM is closing and moving to the US because it cannot afford the wages and benefits so it is moving back to t the US. Canada no longer produces much because of wages and benefits being to high. And Carney announced potential deals with Hyundai so.. out goes the US and GM and in comes Korea LOL https://globalnews.ca/news/11643006/canada-korea-trade-agreement-autos-critical-minerals/ Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: HA HA HA...Carney did not cry boycott... that was Ford and then he realized better things to come and backed off. What are you talking about. Carney was the one who PUT the tarrif in place. Then he went and did a bad deal and ford was angry and carney told him to shut up and ford did. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 (edited) 39 minutes ago, CdnFox said: What are you talking about. Carney was the one who PUT the tarrif in place. Then he went and did a bad deal and ford was angry and carney told him to shut up and ford did. What tariff???? On cars?? What ya smokin you pedophile LOSER ???? Edited January 29 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 13 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: What tariff???? On cars?? umm yeah. He was part of the trudeau gov't and spoke in favor of it and ratified it when he became prime minister. Yeash kid read a book. And i see you're still desperately trying to replace your father 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted January 29 Report Posted January 29 Wow. looks like that 'Trade deal with china is going great for ontario GM axes third shift at Oshawa plant, laying off hundreds of workers 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: Wow. looks like that 'Trade deal with china is going great for ontario GM axes third shift at Oshawa plant, laying off hundreds of workers There's nothing whatsoever in your article that indicates China had anything to do with this layoff from GMs perspective. It's entirely due to Trump. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: umm yeah. He was part of the trudeau gov't and spoke in favor of it and ratified it when he became prime minister. Yeash kid read a book. And i see you're still desperately trying to replace your father WTF are you babbling about??? More BS from a pedophile LOSER... no substantiation, just BS comments. Typical of the pedophile necrophiliac LOSER LOL LOL LOL Tap tap tap...I'm dancing in your head again HA HA HA 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: Wow. looks like that 'Trade deal with china is going great for ontario GM axes third shift at Oshawa plant, laying off hundreds of workers Old news....too busy posting garbage to keep up to date Or too busy with useless retorts to notice what is going on LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 16 hours ago, eyeball said: There's nothing whatsoever in your article that indicates China had anything to do with this layoff from GMs perspective. It's entirely due to Trump. I didn't say there was anything in the article that said that. But the fact of the matter is that the auto sector is removing investment and Carney's deal supports that. Are you trying to claim that Carney's deal to bring Chinese vehicles to Canada is improving investment in our auto sector? 6 hours ago, ExFlyer said: WTF are you babbling about??? Oh I'm sorry, I completely forgot that you have trouble with English at the best of times and you literally cannot see anything that is factual Go back to reading dr seuss, and tell your mommy here and diapers need to be changed again Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I didn't say there was anything in the article that said that. But the fact of the matter is that the auto sector is removing investment and Carney's deal supports that. Why didn't GM cite that as a reason for laying people off like you did then? 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Are you trying to claim that Carney's deal to bring Chinese vehicles to Canada is improving investment in our auto sector? No. I'm claiming the article you posted reported that GM is holding Trump entirely responsible for its decision to lay people off. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 (edited) 57 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why didn't GM cite that as a reason for laying people off like you did then? Why would they? 57 minutes ago, eyeball said: No. I'm claiming the article you posted So you do agree then that automotive investment is fleeing Canada as a result of this. You make such a fuss for someone who's just admitted I was right Edited January 30 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Why would they? For the same reason you did. 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So you do agree then that automotive investment is fleeing Canada as a result of this. No, I agree with GM that it's because of Trump. 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You make such a fuss for someone who's just admitted I was right LMAO! Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted January 30 Report Posted January 30 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: I... Oh I'm sorry, I completely forgot that you have trouble with English at the best of times and you literally cannot see anything that is factual Go back to reading dr seuss, and tell your mommy here and diapers need to be changed again Nope...you said "Carney was the one who PUT the tarrif in place. " "He was part of the trudeau gov't and spoke in favor of it and ratified it when he became prime minister. " and I said BS...prove it and, as usual you cannot because you are a lying pedophile LOSER LOL LOL LOL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
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