Authoritarian Brains Don't Ask was this Justified, They Ask was Authority Challenged? Once the Answer is Yes, Violence Feels Righteous.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Fear is working...the illegals and their underground trafficking economy are greatly disrupted.  So many people is not the majority of Americans.   

It goes both ways and doesn't seem to be panning out the way you think.

Taking away low-skilled immigrant laborers (e.g., roofers) has caused higher-skilled native-born workers (e.g., electricians, plumbers) to lose work because projects can no longer proceed.

For every 500,000 immigrants removed, an estimated 44,000 U.S.-born workers lose their jobs due to reduced demand for their goods and services.

Americans who used to employ immigrants to provide daycare have to quit their jobs.

Meanwhile the unemployment rate for native-born workers rose throughout 2025 and into 2026 as overall job creation slowed. The unemployment rate is higher now than it's been in decades apparently.

But that's probably Trudeau's fault so never mind.

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Hyundai was not a standard ICE operation.

No it sounded particularly over the top alright.

ICE detained 475 people at Hyundai's plant.

300 were shipped home tuit sweet and some 200 plan on legal action against ICE, alleging racial profiling, human rights violations, and excessive force during the raid.

 

[bush_cheney2004]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It goes both ways and doesn't seem to be panning out the way you think.

Taking away low-skilled immigrant laborers (e.g., roofers) has caused higher-skilled native-born workers (e.g., electricians, plumbers) to lose work because projects can no longer proceed.

 

 

It is working out exactly how I thought it would....disruption of the illegal labour economy.   The U.S. (like Canada's TFWs) has legal ways for immigrant workers (including agricultural) to enter the country and work legally.  About half of California's immigrant ag workers are legal, permitted labour.   

Trump understands that the supply of new illegals across the border had to be shut down, and the economic incentives to stay illegally have to be dismantled.  About 1.9 million have already self deported.

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622,000 deported and 1,900,000 self-deportations by December 2025; 65,735 migrants in ICE detention

"Viva la Migra"

Edited January 13 by bush_cheney2004

[bush_cheney2004]

28 minutes ago, eyeball said:

300 were shipped home tuit sweet and some 200 plan on legal action against ICE, alleging racial profiling, human rights violations, and excessive force during the raid.

 

That's fine...let them have their day in court.   Just like any other American alleging rights violations.   

So I have to ask again...what is so special about illegals compared to American citizens dealing with these issues every day via police?

[gatomontes99]

On 1/11/2026 at 1:07 PM, robosmith said:

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1218863196918742 Video

MAGAts get out your dictionary; big words used.

And blinders, so you won't be distracted by a pretty face. LMAO

She loves to hide behind big words. Let me break the mystique for you. Her motus operandi is to make a proclamation of fact that is really an assumption or opinion and then classify opposing opinions and reactions as some psychological disorder. 

What she is doing is no different than when the left calls us Nazis, racists or any other name. She seeks to discredit opposition opinion or facts through personal attacks. This is the tactic of someone that does not have the mental acuity to defend their thesis. If she could defend her assertions, she wouldn't need to diagnose her perceived opposition with mental disorders and abnormal psychological behaviors to distract from her lack of evidence. On some level, she knows she can't defend her opinions so she needs to discredit others' opinions to satisfy her need to feel superior.

Effectively, she is employing the tactics of six year old in a playground arguing over who's daddy can beat up the other's daddy. She uses words and terms that she thinks make her sound authoritative. In reality, she's just someone that can't support her own assertions and she resorts to name calling. 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

No it sounded particularly over the top alright.

ICE detained 475 people at Hyundai's plant.

300 were shipped home tuit sweet and some 200 plan on legal action against ICE, alleging racial profiling, human rights violations, and excessive force during the raid.

 

Awwweee...did your treasured illegals get treated like criminals?

Tsk. Such a shame...

[eyeball]

10 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

So I have to ask again...what is so special about illegals compared to American citizens dealing with these issues every day via police?

Nothing apparently. It's Americas police that seem to be the special ones, precious and entitled.

[robosmith]

14 hours ago, Legato said:

Please tell us oh exalted gribblesqueak.

Been there, done that, CLOWN

[Legato]

Just now, robosmith said:

Been there, done that, CLOWN

Then tell us about it but leave out the conversations with elves and goblins.

 

[robosmith]

14 hours ago, Nationalist said:

They weren't innocent you dope.

A lot had expired visas. The issues were settled rationally.

Something you wouldn't know much about.

I STILL know only YOUR OPINION. Expired VISA is not normally cause for arrest.

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Lawyers say ICE’s stated reason for most of these arrests is the green card applicants overstayed their visas.

However, it is relatively common for applicants to overstay their visas because the green card application process takes so long. Normally, the government tells people not to bother renewing visas near the tail end of the application process.

Additionally, immigration lawyers point out that immediate relatives (spouses, parents and children) of U.S. citizens can legally adjust their status even if they overstayed a visa.

 

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, Legato said:

Then tell us about it but leave out the conversations with elves and goblins.

 

Been there, done that. Not my fault you don't pay attention while you're posting your JOKES.

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

I STILL know only YOUR OPINION. Expired VISA is not normally cause for arrest.

Not “normally”

So, what is your point again? 

[bush_cheney2004]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nothing apparently. It's Americas police that seem to be the special ones, precious and entitled.

 

Right...so there should be no special tears or hand wringing over the plight of poor, oppressed illegals when detained and arrested by law enforcement, including ICE...they actually chose to come to the United States of Police, maybe except in the cases of minor children.

I guess it seemed like a great plan at the time.

 

[robosmith]

14 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Right...so there should be no special tears or hand wringing over the plight of poor, oppressed illegals when detained and arrested by law enforcement, including ICE...they actually chose to come to the United States of Police, maybe except in the cases of minor children.

I guess it seemed like a great plan at the time.

 

You don't know crap about what immigrants face at home nor why ASYLUM exists in US Law.

[bush_cheney2004]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You don't know crap about what immigrants face at home nor why ASYLUM exists in US Law.

 

Thanks for another sob story.

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Thanks for another sob story.

Thanks for your bitter lack of compassion so typical of RepubliCONS.

[eyeball]

24 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Right...so there should be no special tears or hand wringing over the plight of poor, oppressed illegals when detained and arrested by law enforcement, including ICE

No, just a little disbelief, especially at how perfectly normal and almost mundane it is as far as  spectacles go.

Just another day in America...happens all the time? If you say so.

[bush_cheney2004]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, just a little disbelief, especially at how perfectly normal and almost mundane it is as far as  spectacles go.

Just another day in America...happens all the time? If you say so.

 

That's just the way it is...and has been for a very long time.  Garden variety homicides and police shootings happen every day.

Welcome to America !!

[robosmith]

37 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

That's just the way it is...and has been for a very long time.  Garden variety homicides and police shootings happen every day.

Welcome to America !!

It's attitudes like yours that keep them going: nothing can be done, nothing to see there. 🤮

[gatomontes99]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

I STILL know only YOUR OPINION. Expired VISA is not normally cause for arrest.

 

If they could have adjusted their status they should have. 

[eyeball]

48 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

That's just the way it is...and has been for a very long time.

It sure stands out more - it's more performative and a lot less shameless. The Team America zeal is anything but satirical.

[bush_cheney2004]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

It's attitudes like yours that keep them going: nothing can be done, nothing to see there. 🤮

 

Plenty can be done...it is a feature, not a bug.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

It sure stands out more - it's more performative and a lot less shameless. The Team America zeal is anything but satirical.

 

Part of that is media saturation to go with the performative.   Suicides are more numerous, and gun homicides are actually down in the U.S.

The culture wars need content...and an audience.

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Plenty can be done...it is a feature, not a bug.

Random murders are a "feature"? You're sicker than Dick.
 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Part of that is media saturation to go with the performative.   Suicides are more numerous, and gun homicides are actually down in the U.S.

The culture wars need content...and an audience.

Yup, it'll be gladiators soon and awlll perfectly normal!

LMAO!