ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 33 minutes ago, I am Groot said: Not a dumb question. As I recall this story from last year, when he replaced the existing guy, I had my doubts about how close he seemed to the CCP back then. It seemed to me they were replacing one pro-China activist with a guy who seemed, from what reports I recall, to be entirely too close to China himself. The Liberals weren't any better. Carney refused to boot out their candidate, despite him telling people to 'arrest' his opponent and bring him to the Chinese consulate for a reward, until the guy finally resigned three weeks before the election. The point and question was, if he is a foreign actor now that he has crossed the floor, was he not one last year when he was vetted and parachuted into a riding by the conservative party?? I have never said the liberals were any better. I have said though that floor crossing form all parties have occurred in Canadian parliament over 300 times. It is nothing unusual or new. The outrage by some conservative.members (leader and former leaders) is quite hypocritical considering they willingly accepted liberals crossing to the conservatives in the past. You cannot call the floor crossers traitors etc becasue as adults we regularly change our minds as we move on with our lives and beliefs Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
I am Groot Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I( am not sure. Is it the stuff the Conservative party vetting missed?? If you know about them and can prove it. We know who they are. CSIS knows who they are. They're not breaking any laws doing it right now. Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 (edited) 2 minutes ago, I am Groot said: We know who they are. CSIS knows who they are. They're not breaking any laws doing it right now. OK then, if no laws are broken, it all becomes moot. It just becomes political whining (from both sides) Edited December 18, 2025 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 On 12/15/2025 at 12:09 PM, Goddess said: Did you miss the part where this was 6 weeks ago - AFTER the election? Or you just ignore the parts that don't fit your narrative? He's clearly been taken over by the CCP. Or was planted beforehand. Your team can have him. We're glad he's gone. Only Liberals would celebrate a CCP compromised floor-crosser. Does how long after the election mean anything? He was selected by the conservative party and parachuted into a riding by the conservative party and a sitting member of the conservative party. Glad he is gone?? The cons worked so hard to get him and now glad he is gone??? That is the epitome of hypocritical LOL Oh, so did the conservatives not celebrate when liberals crossed the floor to them?? Well over 20 left the liberals and joined the conservatives. The most famous is Paul Hellyer, the conservative defence minister that amalgamated the Army, Navy and Air Force and basically destroyed out Military. Don't be so naive LOL 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Moonbox Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: That is the epitome of hypocritical LOL More like coping, but yeah. "We didn't even want the candidate we pursued and parachuted into the riding under our banner. We're *sob* sooo much better without him!" 1 1 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 On 12/15/2025 at 2:41 PM, Goddess said: Well, to start, Parliament voted almost 2 years ago to create a foreign agent registry, like other countries have, such as Australia. Libs refuse to institute it... "Canada is in the process of establishing a Foreign Influence Transparency Registry (FITR) under recent legislation (Part 4 of Bill C-70), but it is not yet active, as the enabling Commissioner needs to be appointed and regulations finalized, meaning people aren't yet required to register as foreign agents, and the specifics of implementation (who registers, what's disclosed) are still being decided through regulations and consultations." Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: "Canada is in the process of establishing a Foreign Influence Transparency Registry (FITR) under recent legislation (Part 4 of Bill C-70), but it is not yet active, as the enabling Commissioner needs to be appointed and regulations finalized, meaning people aren't yet required to register as foreign agents, and the specifics of implementation (who registers, what's disclosed) are still being decided through regulations and consultations." The law was passed June 2024, so where is it? Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 53 minutes ago, Legato said: The law was passed June 2024, so where is it? Held up by the conservatives like everything else in parliament . Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Held up by the conservatives like everything else in parliament . Extrapolate please. Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Legato said: Extrapolate please. Only 4 pieces of legislation have been passed since the election. All has been held up by conservative bickering and political show business. Off topic and I am done with this discussion. Edited December 18, 2025 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 36 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Only 4 pieces of legislation have been passed since the election. All has been held up by conservative bickering and political show business. Off topic and I am done with this discussion. Cmon, the bill passed July 2024 not held up by the Conservatives. The Liberal government are the delaying entity. I for one would like to know why. Quote
ExFlyer Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 12 minutes ago, Legato said: Cmon, the bill passed July 2024 not held up by the Conservatives. The Liberal government are the delaying entity. I for one would like to know why. "The legislation, known as the Foreign Influence Transparency and Accountability Act (FITAA), received Royal Assent on June 20, 2024, but will come into force at a future date by order of the Governor-in-Council" Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Legato Posted December 18, 2025 Report Posted December 18, 2025 18 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: "The legislation, known as the Foreign Influence Transparency and Accountability Act (FITAA), received Royal Assent on June 20, 2024, but will come into force at a future date by order of the Governor-in-Council" Don't you want to know why the delay? Quote
Goddess Posted December 29, 2025 Report Posted December 29, 2025 On 12/18/2025 at 4:13 PM, Legato said: Don't you want to know why the delay? In spite of the Liberal election promises to strengthen Canada's economy, their main focus seems to be (based on the bills they are prioritizing) censorship. A foreign agent registry likely ranks far lower on their list of priorities than the economy. I don't see any evidence that they have much interest in actually running Canada. Based on the bills they've prioritized, their main focus seems to be............. shutting Canadians up. 3 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted December 29, 2025 Report Posted December 29, 2025 On 12/14/2025 at 12:39 PM, ExFlyer said: OK, Here it is To be hypocritical means acting in a way that contradicts your stated beliefs, morals, or feelings, essentially pretending to have virtues you lack or judging others for things you do yourself, like telling someone to be honest while you are lying. It's a form of hypocrisy where your actions don't match your words, often involving claiming high standards but failing to live up to them. So, a hypocrite is the conservatives cheering when liberals cross the floor but whine and cry and demean a conservation that crosses a floor. LOL Seriously LOSER...you could not figure that out all by yourself?? LOL So ..... wouldn't that require him to cheer when a liberal crosses the floor? And has one crossed recently that he cheered about? LOLOLOL - one of the funniest things about you is how often you provide your own proof that you're wrong, and not just wrong but usually stupidly so On 12/18/2025 at 1:53 PM, ExFlyer said: "The legislation, known as the Foreign Influence Transparency and Accountability Act (FITAA), received Royal Assent on June 20, 2024, but will come into force at a future date by order of the Governor-in-Council" You realize the governor in council is not the conservatives right? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted December 29, 2025 Report Posted December 29, 2025 On 12/14/2025 at 11:45 AM, WestCanMan said: I don't know how much of that is true, but Michael Ma doesn't have a FB account right now. I don't know for sure if he had one before he betrayed his voters, but AFAIK all of the conservative MPs have FB accounts. If it's true that a petition for him to resign has 30,000 voters, and they're all from that riding, it's a big deal because only 50,000 people voted for CPC and LPOC there during the last election. Is it weird that between the CBC, CTV and the Libs , they almost all either 1) don't have FB accounts or 2) don't allow comments. Canadians can't discuss what they're saying. Honestly, i don't think that particular floor crossing is going as well for the liberals as they thought. It feels oily and scummy, far more so than the previous crossing where there was a history of dissent and unhappyness, although that still felt 'opportunistic'. But this one looks like a complete scam and political shenannigans, and Canadians often react badly to that. His explanation didn't help either - "I was 100 percent conservative the night before and had no idea i'd be crossing, but then i had a 20 minute conversation with the PM the next day and it completely changed my fundimental values and belief system so i had to cross". Uh huh. Was the conversation "what if i were to offer you...."? They've got a lot of negative press about it, even though it's legal a lot of Canadians are concerned and not happy about the idea of obtaining a majority through shady means and scams and I think if anything it's actually hurt his brand more than it hurt Pierre. The circumstances may very well impact anyone else thinking about floor crossing and may cause the liberals to think twice about being aggressive and trying to talk people into it. The fact is having a majority of one person is not actually all that great 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted December 29, 2025 Author Report Posted December 29, 2025 5 hours ago, CdnFox said: His explanation didn't help either - "I was 100 percent conservative the night before and had no idea i'd be crossing, but then i had a 20 minute conversation with the PM the next day and it completely changed my fundimental values and belief system so i had to cross". Uh huh. Was the conversation "what if i were to offer you...."? "The guy who never tells the truth about anything talked to me for 20 minutes and converted me into a scumbag." 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
CdnFox Posted December 30, 2025 Report Posted December 30, 2025 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: "The guy who never tells the truth about anything talked to me for 20 minutes and converted me into a scumbag." Totally believable, right? I think most people would say "who WOULDN"T believe a man who's lied to pretty much everyone and in fact i called a liar last week". 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
WestCanMan Posted December 30, 2025 Author Report Posted December 30, 2025 On 12/29/2025 at 7:33 AM, Goddess said: In spite of the Liberal election promises to strengthen Canada's economy, their main focus seems to be (based on the bills they are prioritizing) censorship. No one talks about TNI, the "Trusted News Initiative", but it's the digital book-burning of the 21st century. AKA, Big Brother. Twitter was part of it, THANK GOD FOR ELON MUSK, but it still has Google, FB and YouTube, plus BBC, AP, Reuters, NYT, WashPo, CBC, Euro Broadcast Union, etc. They hide behind the disguise of "combatting disinformation", but TNI is Disinformation Incorporated. TNI shut down talk of the BSL4 lab when Fauci was peddling his pangolin conspiracy theory. TNI shut down talk of the Hunter laptop to get Biden elected. TNI kicked the NYPost off of social media for telling the truth. TNI is the group that tells all the lies that cultists like eyeball, ex-flyer, Beave, herbie, etc get sucked into regurgitating, and when we conservatives are shut down here, and no longer allowed to talk online anywhere, it will be TNI lackeys that manage the information blockade. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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