Imported Muslim terrorist offs 11 Jews celebrating the first day of Hanukkah.

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You don't have a gun.

That's right, I told you so too but of course I'm a liar so...

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And I noticed you didn't comment about the fact that gun owners are literally screened every single day.

Because I know it's bullshit, the guy next door has had guns for decades and I've never seen police checking in on him more than once every other day.

[West]

Notice how left wingers dodge the murderous ideology of Islam and use this as a way to go on the attack against law abiding conservatives? 

You think people really want to disarm when the leaders in western countries import jihadis? 

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's right, I told you so too but of course I'm a liar so...

 

You claimed you did have a gun but threw it away. I'm pretty sure that's the lie. Most people know better than to just throw away a gun

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Because I know it's bullshit, the guy next door has had guns for decades and I've never seen police checking in on him more than once every other day.

So now you are back to just lying. I was very clear that it's not done at the house but by computer.

Your usual drive when you know you're wrong and you've been proven to be a complete twat and tard and you're trying to find some species of semi-graceful way out of it.

Utterly pathetic. I guess if I was wrong as often as you I'd have to find ways to mentally cope as well

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8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You claimed you did have a gun but threw it away. I'm pretty sure that's the lie. Most people know better than to just throw away a gun

It was rusty, worn out and broken. It went to the dump with a truckload of other old rusty, worn out broken crap decades ago.

But sure, you clutch those precious responsible gun owner/safety pearls of yours. LMAO!

14 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So now you are back to just lying. I was very clear that it's not done at the house but by computer.

Yeah well, back in the day I bought my gun at a garage sale. I even talked them down $5 - paid for the bullets I bought at the corner store on the way home.

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Your usual drive when you know you're wrong and you've been proven to be a complete twat and tard and you're trying to find some species of semi-graceful way out of it.

That's easy enough to do, I just lie 

19 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Utterly pathetic. I guess if I was wrong as often as you I'd have to find ways to mentally cope as well

Except then I'd tell the truth and...Kaboom you'd be mental again.

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It was rusty, worn out and broken. It went to the dump with a truckload of other old rusty, worn out broken crap decades ago.

Liar 

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But sure, you clutch those precious responsible gun owner/safety pearls of yours. LMAO!

LOL says the guy who 'throws out' guns

But yeah ignore the fact that eveyrthnig i said was true and you were full of shit. 

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Yeah well, back in the day I bought my gun at a garage sale. I even talked them down $5 - paid for the bullets I bought at the corner store on the way home.

Why would you do that if the gun was all rusty and broke? Odd thing to do.

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That's easy enough to do, I just lie 

Yeah we noticed,  

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Except then I'd tell the truth and...Kaboom you'd be mental again.

The truth never makes me go mental, you're the one that seems to drive crazy   

And you still can't cope with the fact that gun owners are actually checked out more than car owners which was your original point.

You got proven wrong and now you're having your little hissy fit same as always.

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Liar

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL says the guy who 'throws out' guns

What about the guy who sold it to me? Chicken or egg?

9 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Why would you do that if the gun was all rusty and broke? Odd thing to do.

It worked until buddy backed over it. Then it was broke.

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah we noticed,  

So much so you're obsessed.

11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The truth never makes me go mental, you're the one that seems to drive crazy   

And you still can't cope with the fact that gun owners are actually checked out more than car owners which was your original point.

That was your point so you must be lying  

Trying to keep track is driving you crazy.

15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You got proven wrong and now you're having your little hissy fit same as always.

Oh noes now you're bringing out the big guns....the old hissy fit gambit!

LMAO!

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What about the guy who sold it to me? Chicken or egg?

He sold it to someone he believed was a responsible person. Considering that person was you that makes him an !diot but not a criminal

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It worked until buddy backed over it. Then it was broke.

Sure kid, 

So it was broken because it had a broken stock. So the action still works so you threw away a gun with a perfectly good Action that anyone could put another stock on and use in a crime. I personally put the stock on a few lee enfield's over the years including upgrading to a Sporter model and the parts are about 50 bucks and maybe 20 minutes of work, 19 of which is finding a screwdriver long enough.

6 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So much so you're obsessed.

Observant isn't the same as obsessed. You lie so much that it comes up all the time, so I can see where you think it was on my mind frequently but really it's just observation. If you lie less I will mention it less.

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That was your point so you must be lying  

Trying to keep track is driving you crazy.

Still can't deal with it huh?

You realize that whenever you act like this anybody reading this, and there are many who do, will just look at you as a complete twat. You lie you twist you turn and when somebody brings up a valid point you can't cope

You're an embarrassment to your family and to your children if you have any in the real world. And when you're not making yourself look like a complete tard you're out there supporting terrorists.

You're kind of a bad example of a person. I honestly don't know how you live with yourself

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5 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Kaboom!

LMAO!

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11 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So it was broken because it had a broken stock. So the action still works so you threw away a gun with a perfectly good Action that anyone could put another stock on and use in a crime.

You should have stuck with your story that I lied and made up the whole story.

Now your poor confused head is all over everything.

 

[CdnFox]

37 minutes ago, eyeball said:

LMAO!  You're right and I'm wrong again so what can i say?

I accept your admission of defeat

[CdnFox]

27 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You should have stuck with your story that I lied and made up the whole story.

 

 

I didn't say you didn't.  I just pointed out it's a stupid story  

both things can be true  

27 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Now your poor confused head is all over everything.

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15 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I accept your admission of defeat

I'm lying.

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13 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

both things can be true

Especially when its convenient 

[CdnFox]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I'm lying.

No, you're just a twat  

And a frustrated twat from the sounds of it, that's what you get for lying all the time and getting called on it  

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Especially when its convenient 

And also when it's true  

[Venandi]

On 12/14/2025 at 10:32 PM, robosmith said:

Mass shooting incidents declined substantially in the US during the 10 years assault style weapons were banned.

I have a passing familiarity with assault riffles...

By definition they have detachable, high capacity magazines and selective fire.

Perhaps you could define "assault style" for us though... the Canadian government would probably appreciate your help.

Calling a semi automatic rifle with a five round magazine an "assault style rifle" is a bit like calling an F150 with racing stripes a "racing style pickup truck" and then banning it because it causes the owners of "racing trucks" to speed through residential areas. 

What if I were to suggest that the F in F150 actually stood for formula 1?

Edited December 16, 2025 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

22 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

1. You did not show me any evidence. The only poll I see you posted was about assimilation.

2. And, yes, I can declare a poll false if it says Christians want to kill gays because, as a Christian, I know that is not a prevailing factor. 

3. No one said they are inhuman. I said western and Muslim cultures cannot coexist in the same country without one or the other assimilating.  

4. I am not retracting anything because you've shown nothing. ...

However, I called you ignorant because you hold this bigoted belief that Christians hate gays.  

5. My point is, and always has been, that those beliefs and western values cannot coexist. You are burying your head in the sand and ignoring that these two sets of beliefs are incapable. 

6. Calling you ignorant and bigoted was based on what you said. If you are going to be butt hurt because I called you out for your actual beliefs, then I suggest you do a better job of hiding said beliefs. 

 

1. https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2015/11/03/chapter-4-social-and-political-attitudes/

% who say homosexuality should be accepted by society: Muslims 45% Christians 36%.  

This speaks directly to claims above.

2. I never said that.

3. But the inference is that they're not assimilating (they are) and also that they can't, ie. They're unlike every other human subgroup.

4. I don't hate Christians, I am Christian.  I am asking you to retract based on the basic framework for respectful discussion.  I never said Christians hate gays.  I'll give you another chance to retract based on your reading of this post.

5. There are fundamentalist values which are difficult in a pluralistic society, but with healthy politics they can be navigated.  And there are liberal Muslims.

6. I'm not hurt, but I don't have to continue a discussion with someone who belittles me based on misunderstanding my position.  Why would you even want to discuss with someone who you disrespect?

I have been polite with you.  Please retract.

 

[Michael Hardner]

22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

@Michael Hardner

Mike, would you invite a man who hates your way of life, into your home? A man who thinks your wife is sub-human, your daughter is nothing more than a servant and a baby-making machine, has every intention on taking your home away from you. I seriously doubt you would.

No Christian morals direct us to poison the sanctity of our homes and families.

No, but I have had plenty of religious friends.  It's not hard to navigate such things.  Not everyone hates you, and the vast majority understand that people get to decide how to live their own lives.

Your charicature isn't applicable: have you even ever known a Muslim?

[Michael Hardner]

21 hours ago, West said:

1. Ok... so 16% of Muslims have no problem offing the Jews on a beach in Australia. 

1. Cite please.

[Michael Hardner]

19 hours ago, Goddess said:

 

I think you underestimate the power of religious belief and fervor.

 

I for one don't guess at such things, I researched it and found that there's no difference.  Not sure where you would get your knowledge from on this.

19 hours ago, User said:

For the record, even when folks like me don’t attack you personally, you don’t proceed with many discussions once your points start getting criticized. 

I don't get it.  You're saying that I only argue if I'm attacked? 

I have a lot of folks on ignore so I don't see those posts unless I unhide them.

[Michael Hardner]

19 hours ago, Legato said:

Why do you always defend the indefensible with half truths and non tangible innuendo.

The majority of Muslims want anyone not of their faith murderous ideology converted or dead.

I just showed a survey that contradicts your belief.  You don't want to believe it, fine.  

But your response is just to say that you don't believe it.

I'm more convinced by research than your belief.

[Michael Hardner]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Liar. Anybody who bothers to take the time to write that took the time to read the post. You just don't want to cope with it

. But I do love that your defense is that "I deliberately chose to remain ignorant so that I didn't have to cope with anything you said I didn't like because that made more sense to me".

And what I said doesn't change. The only thing that's sort of changed is that we now know with certainty but you do not base your opinions on reason or logic, but rather only on what does or does not appeal to you.

How very leftist of you

No, nothing about ignorance.

I didn't read the rest of the post at all.  Honestly.  Not sure why you are so predisposed to thinking I would like about that.

I'm not leftist I'm conservative.  And Christian.

I don't choose to be ignorant,  I seek out information from objective sources which includes people with whom I respectfully disagree.

That's not you though.  You're on here for ego, to insult rather than discuss.

It's too bad because our last exchange was civil.

Oh well. 

[Venandi]

In response to the ubiquitous "cite please" here are some AI responses I saved that are applicable (specifically) to the Gaza Strip... anyone wanting a more comprehensive breakdown with individual links will have to do their own homework:

• Approximately 75% supported the October 7th Hamas attack, which resulted in substantial loss of life and violence against civilians. This reflects a willingness among a significant number of Palestinians to endorse extreme measures in the conflict.
• More than 85% reject the idea of coexistence with Israel, indicating a preference for confrontational approaches rather than diplomatic solutions.
• A notable 71.1% are committed to restoring a "historical Palestine", which implies asserting claims over what is currently Israel and reflects a rejection of the legitimacy of the Israeli state.

 

Edited December 16, 2025 by Venandi

[Michael Hardner]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Would you have been more comfortable if we had simply called you a chud?

And how could you possibly know, you insisted you stopped reading after the first line of my post which didn't insult you at all. It just said you gave the wrong answer.

And you wonder why people call you a liar

Double response! No, I don't think I have called anyone here a chud.

You said I enjoyed the killing of Innocents, go read it again.

You need to be civil with me and not disparage my character if you want to discuss.  Why would you discuss with someone who you disrespect? 

Back to ignore, sadly...

[Michael Hardner]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

1. That's one "terrorist".

The 29 are the Toronto 18, plus the Parliament Hill guy, Danforth guy, etc, etc. There were 11 other muslims involved in terrorist attacks since 2000. Go look on wiki. 

2. Why didn't you just look it up?

Wrong. You don't get to shift the goalposts a mile to the left to try to leave your argument in the middle.

Of course muslims are human. Of course some of them are decent. But the fact remains that islam absolutely is a negative behaviour modifier, at a very extreme level. 

MH, can you admit that it just stands to reason that "people who worship a 'prophet' who dedicated his life to violent religious bigotry, genocides, and forcing people into slavery because of their religion", just have a different moral compass than average Canadians?

Is "sharing is caring" all that closely related to a sentiment like "killing Jews is awesome"? Are they kinda the same to you? No? 

Face it Michael, you're gonna rush to judgment about a person who says things like "Clifford Olsen was actually a hero", or "Adolf Hitler is a great guy because he killed all those Jews". And I chatted with a muslim woman on FB who said that last one. I didn't make that up. I even tried to contact Australian intelligence about her because she was attending a justice institute over there, trying to become a cop, and her ultimate goal was to reach the highest level of law enforcement in that country. She said it was like the Australian CIA or some such. I screenshotted her comments and sent them off to Aus, but heard nothing back. 

If you get arrested by a cop, would it be a bit unsettling for you to find out that she thought the holocaust was awesome? Jew or not, it's scary AF to be put in handcuffs by such a person who loves genocides. 

I said that your claim was false, which just makes you wrong, not a liar. But to be fair, I've called you out for lying dozens of times, albeit never without the required level of evidence. 

I don't expect to have a reasonable discussion with you.

I expect you to say the kinds of things that LPoC cultists say, while I come back with reason and truth.

You couldn't even find it in your heart to admit that it was Hitleresque for Trudeau to say that "the unvaxed are very often racists and misogynists", MH. Honestly, who the hell levels that type of accusation against people who just don't want to see young people forced to take improperly tested medications that they don't need? PM Hitler needs to give me an apology if he finds himself within ten feet of me, MH. Believe me.

 I'm not taking back Jack spit, Mike.

How about if you stop saying things that are m0r0nic and I will stop pointing out how wrong they are?

You literally tried to pretend that when there are 30 terrorists out of 1.5M people, that's the same thing as when there is 1 terrorist out of 30M people. 

That's 30 times as many terrorists among 1/20th as many people, MH. FYI that means that they're churning out terrorists at 600 times the rate of the others. 

 

For your edification, Michael, here's what "anecdote" means:

• When you limit your discussion to the things that you have personally witnessed, or the first-hand accounts of people you trust, those just constitute "anecdotes". They're like little snippets of truth which may matter, yet they still may only amount to spit in the ocean. However; when you're referencing "all the individual things that happened across an entire country of 40M people over a span of 25 years", that massive collection of "all the pertinent anecdotes" suddenly constitutes "the only meaningful statistic". Yes, Michael, the proper collection of all of the pertinent anecdotes in a series equals a meaningful statistic. Every factual anecdote is part of a statistic. Everything matters. When you can gather a group of 18 people to commit a terrorist attack with you, you're probably surrounded by bad people. And by 'probably', I mean get your head out of your ass.

1. I counted attacks not "plots".  We have the van killer in London, the Mosque shooting in Quebec and the Parliament Hill shooting.  I have stated my facts as have you,  then.

2. Not my job to figure out what you are claiming.  I defend my own statements.

 

Unfortunately I don't have time now to go through all of the rest of the points but to respond to a few:

-You seem to be saying that I did not lie here but I am wrong.  I can accept that.

-I believe that I did admonish Trudeau for insulting the convoy people on Quebec media, although I also recall that I had to wade through pages of insults to find the source (in French)

-To say Islamist terror is not a problem, or even not a thing isn't realistic.  I don't say that.  But a few people seem to think Muslims are inherently evil, ignoring all factors... even where they're from.  You don't seem to be doing that.

I have known liberal Muslims, and I know that condemning a people based on their religion... to the point that we dehumanize every member is incorrect and morally wrong.

You have conducted a serious discussion with me, and for that I thank you.

[Michael Hardner]

14 hours ago, Deluge said:

Sure we can. It's a simple matter of making their presence illegal.  

Simple?  No.

Politically tenable? No.

Morally correct?  No.