Imported Muslim terrorist offs 11 Jews celebrating the first day of Hanukkah.

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, West said:

You mean the war Islamists in Palestine started by murdering a bunch of people and then taking others hostage?

I'm not sure how killing thousands of children accomplishes anything

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, ironstone said:

There is no genocide in Gaza or the West Bank. And even if there were, that is no excuse for slaughtering innocent Jews  in Australia or any other part of the world. 

Obviously right wing Israelis and Hamas believe OTHERWISE. As a Canuck, your views don't matter to them.

[West]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I'm not sure how killing thousands of children accomplishes anything

Well if your military is going to be cowardly enough to attack another country's citizens unprovoked, perhaps don't be little biotches and hide among the civilians population? Go and fight like men, not cowards

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, West said:

Well if your military is going to be cowardly enough to attack another country's citizens unprovoked, perhaps don't be little biotches and hide among the civilians population? Go and fight like men, not cowards

Well, and then, the kids are still dead

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

you think more gun control helps?

Mass shooting incidents declined substantially in the US during the 10 years assault style weapons were banned.

Studies: Gun Massacre Deaths Dropped During Assault ...

Senate Committee on the Judiciary (.gov)

https://www.judiciary.senate.gov › press › dem › releases

Sep 24, 2019 — “The NRA likes to say the 1994 federal Assault Weapons Ban didn't work, but it did work. The data is clear: there were fewer mass shootings ...

[West]

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Well, and then, the kids are still dead

Not if the adults responsible don't use them as human shields

Edited December 15, 2025 by West

[Legato]

6 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I'm not sure how killing thousands of children accomplishes anything

It doesn't. Go and tell Hamas to stop hiding behind the children.

[Radiorum]

Just now, West said:

Not if the adults responsible don't use them as human shields in guerilla warfare 

Thousands and thousands of children were killed. How many adults were they shielding?

[Legato]

Just now, Radiorum said:

Thousands and thousands of children were killed. How many adults were they shielding?

Thousands and thousands? Hamas thugs should be hung drawn and quartered.

[robosmith]

39 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I read an article today from a journalist I well respect, about the shooting, and I was a little dismayed at the lack of any mention of what Palestinians are currently suffering at the hands of Israel.

Then I hear Netanyahu blame Australia for the attacks: 

“Your government did nothing to stop the spread of antisemitism in Australia. You did nothing to curb the cancer cells that were growing inside your country. You took no action. You let the disease spread and the result is the horrific attacks on Jews we saw today.”

Nowhere do I hear anything about the genocide that Israel is perpetrating on the Palestinian people. 

What responsibility does Netanyahu hold for the radicalization of those opposed to the killing of their people?

 

Netanyahu holds a lot of responsibility because he knew about Hamas attack plans for over a year and did nothing to prepare to defend against it. Instead he APPROVED payment to Hamas by Qatar for years.

It's like he wanted it to happen so he had an excuse to murder 10s of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

[Radiorum]

@CDN1 - if you have anything to add to the conversation besides a click please let it be known

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

No.

Wrong answer. You might approve of these kinds of killings but a lot of other people don't

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Muslims are humans and they assimilate fine.  Saying that they're unlike every other culture is saying that they're not human.

That's beyond stupid. If somebody were to say that Nazis and those who held Nazi beliefs didn't assimilate as well as those who held more open beliefs you would be the first to stand up and clap your hands

These people aren't assimilating, they're killing people. And the violence is Ratcheting up here in Canada as well with constant reports of these people harassing Jews and others unprovoked on a regular basis.

Pretending otherwise is just enabling the terrorism

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, Legato said:

Thousands and thousands? Hamas thugs should be hung drawn and quartered.

Then so should the Israelis who used terrorism to steal land from Palestinians in the late '40s and early '50s.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Thousands and thousands of children were killed. How many adults were they shielding?

Thousands and thousands. Gaza has a significant and sizeable army operating under Hamas 

Did you think there was a reason why the Gaza authority never released separate numbers for its military dead and civilian?

And you seem to be suggesting that this is some sort of excuse for the murders in Australia. As if the Australian Jews killed anyone.

You need to take a step back and think for a minute kiddo. You're walking a dangerous line.

[Radiorum]

Let's be clear - no-one - absolutely no-one - condones or approves of the killings on the Australian beach

But the situation if Gaza is unsustainable, and the shooting is a reflection of that

[CdnFox]

Just now, robosmith said:

Then so should the Israelis who used terrorism to steal land from Palestinians in the late '40s and early '50s.

They're dead. That's history. The people today are making the choices themselves they weren't pushed into it and it's not because of somebody in 1943.

It stuns me how quick you lefties are to support terrorism and try and justify murders like this.

[Radiorum]

Just now, CdnFox said:

It stuns me how quick you lefties are to support terrorism and try and justify murders like this.

Nobody has done that. That's uncalled for, for you to say that.

But maybe the situation in Gaza should be looked at

[CdnFox]

Just now, Radiorum said:

Let's be clear - no-one - absolutely no-one - condones or approves of the killings on the Australian beach

But the situation if Gaza is unsustainable, and the shooting is a reflection of that

You're not being clear. You appear to be lying. Your statements do not match this statement. You are giving excuse as to why it's okay to kill people without warning in a terrorist attack

. You should be disgusted with your statements. There is absolutely nothing happening in Israel that justifies the attack we saw in Israel or in Australia.

You don't get to say' oh i don't support it... .BUUUUUUUTTTTTT....."

There is no justification for it. None.

And the children dead in Gaza are the responsibility of Hamas and no one else. Not 1943, not the Israelis, not Canada not America and certainly not Australia.

You should get on the right side of history a little bit quicker kiddo, you don't get to soft support terrorism and pretend like you're half pregnant on the issue. It's a flat-out condemnation or nothing

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

Nobody has done that. That's uncalled for, for you to say that.

 

You are absolutely doing that and you cannot dodge that. If you want to retract that statement and come out condemning the attacks without trying to soft justify it by saying oh but 1943 or whatever then that's fine but right now you are in fact justifying the attacks by saying it's in retaliation for children who died because of Hamas. It is beyond disgusting and you don't get to walk that back or pretend that you didn't really mean it that way

[Radiorum]

is it not possible to feel for all who are suffering?

[West]

15 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Let's be clear - no-one - absolutely no-one - condones or approves of the killings on the Australian beach

But the situation if Gaza is unsustainable, and the shooting is a reflection of that

What would you propose Israel do? These types of attacks are common because islamists are brainwashed to believe Muhammad wants the jews (and for that matter Christians) dead. 

You cannot negotiate with crazy. Which is why I oppose bringing Muslims over to the west

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[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

1. Individual incidents and anecdotes don't figure.  I have polling on specific questions about policies.

That's entirely false, and based on your own extremely poor understanding of how meaningful statistics are derived and how they are used.

FYI the sub-group of "people willing to commit mass atrocities" within each group of people is usually minuscule. Ie, they are massive outliers. Ie, they occur in about the 6th or 7th standard deviation. Think, "way less than one in 10 million."

Aside from the Canadian who retaliated against the muslim terrorist attacks, and some "non-muslims from muslim families" lol, can you think of a Canadian terrorist that killed a bunch of people indiscriminately since 1990? Was Polytechnique the only one?

MH: we don't have ten million muslims here, but we've had way more than one muslim terrorist attack since 2000. Get it? That means that terrorists aren't 1 per 10M. They're not from the 6th or 7th standard of deviation. That's math, MH, and math is what we use to determine patterns among groups of people. 

We've actually had 29 muslims that committed or attempted terrorist attacks since then, plus how many other people knew about them but said nothing? How many people were invited to participate with the gang of 18? If it's just 21 more, then the number of actual terrorists is 40 per 1.5M, that's 1 per 40,000. That's 4th standard of deviation territory. 

If white people were committing terrorist attacks at the same rate we'd have had about ten terrorist attacks in each city of 500,000, since 1990. How many memorable terrorist attacks did white people commit here since 1990?

Sikhs: half as many people, one terrorist attack since confederation.

Buddhists, Hindus, Taoists, Jews, and other minority religions: zero. 

20+Million Christians: A couple of small, one-shot terrorist attacks with no fatalities (anti-abortion), a retaliatory attack at a mosque, and possibly one car that hit 4 pedestrians. 

You know what the deal is MH, you're just a liar. 

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2. Evangelicals have similar attitudes towards the gay as Muslims do.

No they do not, because if they did, they'd be stoning them to death, dropping them off of buildings, lynching them, burning them to death, chopping them up with machetes, etc. 

You're talking about Canada, a Christian majority country, where gays are not killed at all. Like, zero in my lifetime. Compare that to muslim-majority countries, not a country like this where they can't get away with it. In Afghanistan gays are killed horribly, but men who are open about the fact that the have sex with boys hold prominent positions.

Stop pretending MH. We aren't as dumb as you're pretending to be, you evil POS.  

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

is it not possible to feel for all who are suffering?

Not in the same thread no. It's a justification.

You're drawing a connection between the two events. It's not like you were randomly feeling for those who are suffering from hunger in Africa. You tied this event to that event and suggest that this event is understandable or acceptable because of that event. And no it is not possible to introduce that other one into the conversation and just claim it sort of randomly you feel for both.

The attack here had nothing to do with Gaza, Gaza is entirely a responsibility of Gaza because Gaza was the one who started that war and even if they didn't it's still absolutely has nothing to do with two arm Psychopaths deciding to kill a bunch of Jews in Australia.

If we were to accept that logic we'd have to accept that jews killing muslims here in canada was perfectly acceptable. I mean, milhemet mitzvah is as valid as jihad right?  I'm sure if we go back far enough the palestinians were mean to the jews so it's all good. 

It's unacceptable.

[Legato]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Then so should the Israelis who used terrorism to steal land from Palestinians in the late '40s and early '50s.

Did they kill the land first. The whataboutism misplaced

[User]

25 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Let's be clear - no-one - absolutely no-one - condones or approves of the killings on the Australian beach

But the situation if Gaza is unsustainable, and the shooting is a reflection of that

That is an awful "but" right there... 

So, you don't condone or approve of the killings, you are just trying to rationalize the motives for doing it and blaming it on Gaza?
 

33 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Netanyahu holds a lot of responsibility because he knew about Hamas attack plans for over a year and did nothing to prepare to defend against it. Instead he APPROVED payment to Hamas by Qatar for years.

It's like he wanted it to happen so he had an excuse to murder 10s of thousands of Palestinian civilians.

This. Is. A. Lie. 

You are a lying cowardly small man who hides from being called out for posting this BS. 

[User]

50 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I'm not sure how killing thousands of children accomplishes anything

Just this. It allows sympathizers like you to take their side and defend the Hamas terrorist thugs.