MAGA is goo-goo-ga-ga for spectacle

[gatomontes99]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Hilarious that you believe "libbies" are paying ANY ATTENTION to Trump's RANTS.

All you guys do is hang on his every word and then find a way to twist them into something you can be outraged about. 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Hilarious that you believe "libbies" are paying ANY ATTENTION to Trump's RANTS.

That's MAGA ONLY territory. Enjoy it while it lasts. LMAO

Keep killing yourself.

Yes. I most certainly believe you Libbies are paying attention. You trying to deny that is what's hilarious borobolonea.

I shall. And when I die, it'll be after having rung every drop of life and happiness out of this body.

Edited December 10, 2025 by Nationalist

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

the stoopidest thing anybody has said on this forum

I don't know how you managed to pull that off with robo and herbie here, but you finally did it. Congrabulations. 

Go to the CBC now and get your MP ticket punched. 

And hey, you forget to acknowledge this:

Buddy, did you see the ass-licking CBC gave Trudeau, after the billions of election-time/public-purse-dollars he gave to them and other members of the MSM? 

Buddy, did you see the ass-licking CBC gave Trudeau while they were busy ignoring his scandals? 

Buddy, did you se the ass-licking CBC and CNN gave Biden, when he was clearly daft?

Buddy, you accused all Trump supporters of being CNN-level cultists, not just a few cabinet members. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Now that's the biggest lie and the stoopidest thing anybody has said on this forum!

 

Ah! More "Not angry" from you   So no argument, or any kind of rebuttal, just "No You Dumb". 

Make an argument then. 

I would say that trump is not so much of a con man as he is a great performer. He has a way of charming people and getting people on board with his ideas and they believe in him. That's not a con man, that's just being charismatic and possibly populist. In many ways Justin Trudeau was very similar

So you would have to make an argument as to why trump is a con man rather than just a populist or popular figure. I would argue that carney is more of a con man and trump is more of a circus performer or personality

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Now that's the biggest lie and the stoopidest thing anybody has said on this forum!

Anybody who thinks Trump isn't a conman has lost touch with reality!

Some don't understand that Trump giving 3 different answers to the same question in a week makes him a CONMAN.

Just this week Trump tried to tell a reporter that he never said he was OK with releasing the 2nd "tap" video of the Sept 2nd boat strike and then tried to tell the reporter it was her who said that. When she objected he just started calling her names. So PATHETIC. LMAO

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yes. I most certainly believe you Libbies are paying attention. You trying to deny that is what's hilarious borobolonea.

I shall. And when I die, it'll be after having rung every drop of life and happiness out of this body.

In REALITY I've never paid attention to ANY of Trump's campaign rallies, except the one which killed Herman Cain. 🤮

Trump Staffers Blame Themselves for Herman Cain's ...

Business Insider

https://www.businessinsider.com › Politics › News

 

Nov 11, 2021 — Former Republican presidential candidate Herman Cain died of COVID-19 a month after he attended then-President Donald Trump's rally in Tulsa last summer.

 

 

[herbie]

16 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And a case o' beer for me. Don't forget the essentials. 

Sure here's some Bud Light. Enjoy the swill

[CdnFox]

Just now, herbie said:

Sure here's some Bud Light. Enjoy the swill

He said beer, not bud light.   

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, herbie said:

Sure here's some Bud Light. Enjoy the swill

Bud Light? That's not beer.

Velke Popovicske Kozel is Beer.

[Radiorum]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

So you would have to make an argument as to why trump is a con man

He is selling a product under false pretenses, and uses manipulation to enthrall the base, while he robs the country and engages in a lot of self-dealing, all the while convincing the rubes he is on their side, while calling them "basement dwellers" in private. He's got them fooled he is acting in their interests, but he is most assuredly not.

[User]

1 hour ago, Radiorum said:

He is selling a product under false pretenses, and uses manipulation to enthrall the base, while he robs the country and engages in a lot of self-dealing, all the while convincing the rubes he is on their side, while calling them "basement dwellers" in private. He's got them fooled he is acting in their interests, but he is most assuredly not.

You know what I care about? Actions. Policy. What is actually being done. 

I am not being duped at all when I watch illegal border crossings plummet to all-time record lows because Trump is actually protecting the border. I am not duped as I watch for the first time in my life as net illegal immigration is at record lows as ICE is actually deporting people like they should be doing. I am not duped as I watch Trump dismantle wasteful government programs, as Hegseth transforms the military back into warfighters instead of woke policy enforcers... 

You see, these are all things I cheer on and support. 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, User said:

I am not being duped at all when I watch illegal border crossings plummet to all-time record lows because Trump is actually protecting the border. I am not duped as I watch for the first time in my life as net illegal immigration is at record lows as ICE is actually deporting people like they should be doing. I am not duped as I watch Trump dismantle wasteful government programs, as Hegseth transforms the military back into warfighters instead of woke policy enforcers... 

You see, these are all things I cheer on and support. 

But you were conned into thinking illegal immigrants were the biggest threat to the USA

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

But you were conned into thinking illegal immigrants were the biggest threat to the USA

How so? Where did I ever say that is what I believed?

They don't have to be the biggest threat to be A threat and A problem. 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, User said:

How so? Where did I ever say that is what I believed?

They don't have to be the biggest threat to be A threat and A problem. 

The man who made you hate immigrants is the biggest threat to the USA

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

The man who made you hate immigrants is the biggest threat to the USA

No one made me hate "immigrants" because I do not hate immigrants. 

Let me know when you actually want to have any of that fact based thoughtful discussion you claimed you wanted

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Radiorum said:

He is selling a product under false pretenses,

Like what? So far he's delivered precisely what he said he would during his campaign. For better or worse.  What's the false pretense?

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and uses manipulation to enthrall the base,

Again, how? Sounds like something you'd hear in an echo chamber, i don't see any indication that anyone's 'enthralled' by manipulation. People just seem to like him or his ideas so far. 

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while he robs the country

And  where did he rob the country?  And how would that make him a 'con artist'? 

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all the while convincing the rubes he is on their side, while calling them "basement dwellers" in private.

Again, not really a 'con man' activity. And at least he didn't call them human garbage like biden or deplorables like clinton.

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He's got them fooled he is acting in their interests, but he is most assuredly not.

So far he's delivering what he said he would. A person who sells you something then delivers exactly what he sold you isn't a con man 

Again your entire argument seems to be 'Me no like him" and that's fine, but it's not being a 'con man'.  

I think trump really believes what he's doing is the best thing for people.  Which doesn't mean he's not a narcissistic borderline sociopath. But it does rule out 'con man'. 

 

It's like you pick whatever insult you think sounds bad and run with that, then your reason for it is 'orange man bad". 

There's enough legit reasons to criticize trump without making stuff up isn't there? And if there isn't then why don't you like him?

[Radiorum]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

But it does rule out 'con man'. 

One of his biggest cons was insisting before the election he had nothing to do with Project 2025.

In the video clip below, he is saying it: "I have nothing to do with Project 2025"

 

 

But since his inauguration, Project 2025 has become the guiding light of his administration.

Some of his executive orders use the very language of Project 2025.

According to the Project 2025 Tracker, the Trump Administration has implemented 319 objectives laid out in Project 2025,  affecting 34 different agencies.

For example, here are the last three objectives completed:

Eliminate the Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations.

Eliminate the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy or reduce its funding.

Eliminate the Office of Grid Deployment.

 

Edited December 11, 2025 by Radiorum

[Barquentine]

19 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I would say that trump is not so much of a con man as he is a great performer.

Yeah, and 'Trump University' was grand old Ivy League school! Why do you always defend this criminal, lying, sex offending, dictator loving grifter?

[Barquentine]

20 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He has a way of charming people

Yeah, that's what Conmen do! Thats Con 101. You're so gullible. Which reminds me, I've got some great investment opportunities for you. Get in on the ground floor. Quadruple your money in 6 months. But don't tell anybody else...

You probably send money to Nigerian Princes...

Saying Trump isn't a Conman is like saying Crosby doesn't play hockey.

I'm surprised, sorry and ashamed for you.

[Nationalist]

What a nonsensical thread. Libbies like @Barquentine and @Radiorum, venting all that pend up TDS before they explode and do a "full Crockett".

"HE'S A CONMAN! HE'S DESTROYING DEMOCRACY! AAAHHH!!!"

What a couple o' cult pansies. Boys...get a Trump Watch...you'll love it.

*giggle*

[User]

2 hours ago, Radiorum said:

But since his inauguration, Project 2025 has become the guiding light of his administration.

Guiding light? How so?

Project 2025 is as like a several hundred page far right/libertarian dream book of policies across the spectrum.

The fact that some of it was implemented in some part doesn’t prove anything about Trump using it as his guiding light, only that there is some obvious overlap in Conservative/Republican right leaning policies. 
 

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, Radiorum said:

He is selling a product under false pretenses, and uses manipulation to enthrall the base, while he robs the country and engages in a lot of self-dealing, all the while convincing the rubes he is on their side, while calling them "basement dwellers" in private. He's got them fooled he is acting in their interests, but he is most assuredly not.

That was Trudeau...

You know, the guy you waved pom-poms for while he was forcing young people to take an improperly tested injection that they didn't need. 

Now do Trump. 

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Radiorum said:

One of his biggest cons was insisting before the election he had nothing to do with Project 2025.

In the video clip below, he is saying it: "I have nothing to do with Project 2025"

 

 

But since his inauguration, Project 2025 has become the guiding light of his administration.

Some of his executive orders use the very language of Project 2025.

According to the Project 2025 Tracker, the Trump Administration has implemented 319 objectives laid out in Project 2025,  affecting 34 different agencies.

For example, here are the last three objectives completed:

Eliminate the Office of Clean Energy Demonstrations.

Eliminate the Office of Energy Efficiency and Renewable Energy or reduce its funding.

Eliminate the Office of Grid Deployment.

Just because there were 319 things mentioned in Project 2025 that were beneficial for the country doesn't mean that Trump created it. No doubt there are things in it which he doesn't appreciate at all. 

And be honest, if there were people astute enough to do so much good work, it makes sense that he would hire at least some of them. 

[Radiorum]

3 hours ago, User said:

Guiding light? How so?

He is following it faithfully. Do you think he is really interested in governing? His only interest is self-aggrandizement. With Project 2025, he has all the work done for him, leaving him to work on his own interests.

3 hours ago, User said:

Project 2025 is as like a several hundred page far right/libertarian dream book of policies across the spectrum.

The fact that some of it was implemented in some part doesn’t prove anything about Trump using it as his guiding light, only that there is some obvious overlap in Conservative/Republican right leaning policies. 

 

The point is that Trump is a con since he said he had nothing to do with then turns around and has everything to do with it. 

As for the objectives themselves - are you familiar with them? Do you know what any of those 2025 objectives are? 

Listed below is a random selection of Project 2025 objectives - that are either completed or are in progress.

For each one, explain to me why “they had to be done.” Here they are -

Repeal energy efficiency standards for appliances.

Reduce regulations on cryptocurrencies.

Eliminate the Office for Civil Rights and Civil Liberties.

Eliminate the Office of the Citizenship and Immigration Services Ombudsman.

Rescind USAID policies that address climate change and help countries transition away from fossil fuels.

Dismantle USAGM's journalism "firewall" to align its reporting with the aims of the president.

Eliminate the Office of Environmental Justice and External Civil Rights.

Dismiss "the entirety" of the CISA Cybersecurity Advisory Committee.

Pursue the death penalty for all applicable crimes.

Prohibit the U.S. government from combating the spread of misinformation and disinformation.

Weaken regulations on baby formula.

Require all schools that receive federal funding to give students the military entrance test.

Let companies stop paying overtime and allow states to opt out of federal overtime and minimum wage laws.

Repeal the Corporate Transparency Act.

Reinstate Trump's limitations on the Endangered Species Act's definition of critical habitat.

Remove all unions in the Dept. of Homeland Security.

Weaken federal employee unions.

Eliminate the Office of Federal Contract Compliance Programs (OFCCP).

Ban mixed-status families (U.S. citizens and noncitizens) from living in all federally assisted housing.

Abolish the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.

"fully commercialize" the National Weather Service.

Eliminate the GEAR-UP program (provides low-income middle and high school students with academic assistance).

[Radiorum]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

the guy you waved pom-poms for

I've never been a Trudeau supporter. So stop making stupid assumptions.

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

319 things mentioned in Project 2025 that were beneficial for the country

In my list upthread of the selection of Project 2025 objectives that the trump admin has implemented or are working on, please for each one explain to me how they benefit the country.