The Trump Administration is Emulating Russia.

[Shady]

On 12/7/2025 at 9:37 AM, Radiorum said:

The Trump Administration is following the authoritarian model of Russia. They want to kill the First Amendment.

I doubt the timing is coincidental:

In November, the anti-corruption organization founded by Aleksei Navalny had its designation ratcheted up from an “extremist” group to a “terrorist” group by the Russian Supreme Court. (It was for the crime of “extremism” that Navalny was imprisoned and lost his life.)

Mr. Navalny’s organization, the Anti-Corruption Fund, had already been labeled “extremist” by another Russian court in 2021, a decision that liquidated the group in Russia and sent most of its members into exile to avoid long prison sentences. Under the new terrorism designation, anyone who cooperates with the organization could be imprisoned for life.

Now, just a couple of days ago, Pam Bondi has ordered American law enforcement groups to investigate “extremists.”

She’s asked the FBI to compile a list of entities possibly engaged in domestic terrorism. Notice how broad and ill-defined are the criteria that might land you under federal investigation. Pam Bondi wrote in the memo:

"These domestic terrorists use violence or the threat of violence to advance political and social agendas, including opposition to law and immigration enforcement; extreme views in favor of mass migration and open borders; adherence to radical gender ideology, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, or anti-Christianity.”

It’s chilling, and certainly gives the government a lot of wiggle room. The signing of Presidential Memorandum NSPM-7, in September, set the stage. Under the auspices of that, you might be investigated for a donation to the ACLU.

According to the ACLU:

Like the president’s investigation into the Open Society Foundations and his order purporting to designate “Antifa” as a “domestic terrorist organization,” which is not a thing!), NSPM-7 is a deliberate attempt to sow fear and intimidate and silence opposition to the president’s abuses. 

Sounds like the Liberal Party of Canada.

[Radiorum]

33 minutes ago, Shady said:

Sounds like the Liberal Party of Canada.

How so?

[robosmith]

On 12/8/2025 at 5:30 AM, John Stone said:

The U.S. Constitution is, increasingly, overrated. 

Those that interpret are relevant .......... sort of. 

Akin to Impeachment ...... at one time the mere mention would have political hacks pi$$ing in their boots. 

Politics is becoming way too complicated .. the internet provides disinformation like water coming out of a fire hose. 

Congress is a clown show - shuts down for long periods and the stench of corruption is at times overpowering. 

But don't blame Trump  - he was elected. 

No, blame the opposition and the pitiful challenge they put up to contest him ......

Some believe it was a Dem conspiracy - a Biden win and then a resignation - ushering in Harris. 

I believe that ......... but more importantly, the electorate believed it. 

The Left hasn't learned a thing IMO ............ 

That "pitiful challenge" came within 1.5pts of Trump's vote. AKA VERY CLOSE to EQUAL.

[User]

53 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That "pitiful challenge" came within 1.5pts of Trump's vote. AKA VERY CLOSE to EQUAL.

The President is not elected by popular vote. 

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, User said:

The President is not elected by popular vote. 

Good point - the argument might be whether the EC is democratic tho. 

On 12/8/2025 at 2:23 PM, User said:

Yes, this is my thoughts on what you are posting. WTF are you talking about? 

 

........... reminds me of, 'we have done so much with so little for so long  we can do everything with nothing forever". 

 

 

[John Stone]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

That "pitiful challenge" came within 1.5pts of Trump's vote. AKA VERY CLOSE to EQUAL.

yeah, gotta love the E.C.

[gatomontes99]

On 12/7/2025 at 8:37 AM, Radiorum said:

Now, just a couple of days ago, Pam Bondi has ordered American law enforcement groups to investigate “extremists.”

Joe Biden did the exact same thing: 

Last week the Department for Homeland Security (DHS) announced a welcome raft of further measures to address the threat of domestic violent extremism in the United States. The new measures, including the creation of a new Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships (CP3) and establishing a new domestic terrorism branch within the DHS’ Office of Intelligence and Analysis, represent the latest and most significant practical actions taken by the new administration to make good on the election promise to “heal” a deeply divided America.

Well, not exactly. He targeted churches that openly opposed abortions, families that spoke out at school board meetings, Chick-fil-a for donating to a group that helps troubled young men and TP USA because they were convincing young people that trans was a problem and not a solution. These were not extremist organizations. 

Bondi is after people that kill:

"Political violence has no place in this country, and this Department of Justice will investigate, identify, and root out any individual or violent extremist group attempting to commit or promote this heinous activity," the DOJ spokesperson said in the email confirming the authenticity of the memo.

 

[User]

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

Good point - the argument might be whether the EC is democratic tho. 

Of course it is. 
 

 

2 hours ago, John Stone said:

.......... reminds me of, 'we have done so much with so little for so long  we can do everything with nothing forever". 

And… still no idea what you are talking about. 

[Radiorum]

2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Joe Biden did the exact same thing: 

If you cannot see the difference between Biden and Trump, you are in the cult.

 

 

[CdnFox]

On 12/7/2025 at 8:26 AM, Radiorum said:

Wow, three "special kind of stupid" (the kind that Trump likes) posts in a row

 

Four.  You forgot the first post.  And the rest were making fun of that  

C'mon, you have to see what a stretch your post was.  You can't be mad they're not taking it seriously

[Radiorum]

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You can't be mad they're not taking it seriously

I'm not mad. I don't get mad. It's a waste of time.

But you know, you join a debate forum, and you hope for some intelligent discussion, and those guys were massive disappointments.

7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

you have to see what a stretch your post was. 

Trump is changing the USA in unprecedented ways. yes, it can happen there.

[gatomontes99]

18 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

If you cannot see the difference between Biden and Trump, you are in the cult.

 

 

Oh, I pointed out the difference. Is it possible your accusation is really an admission?

[Radiorum]

9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Is it possible your accusation is really an admission?

No

[gatomontes99]

3 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

No

Think about it harder. 

Unearthed emails shed light on Biden DOJ memo calling concerned parents 'domestic terrorists'

The FBI has come under scrutiny after a leaked document showed the bureau warning that "radical traditionalist" Catholics pose as an extremist threat.

 

[Radiorum]

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Think about it harder. 

Unearthed emails shed light on Biden DOJ memo calling concerned parents 'domestic terrorists'

The FBI has come under scrutiny after a leaked document showed the bureau warning that "radical traditionalist" Catholics pose as an extremist threat.

 

Couple of things:

I would need to see the memo cited in the first article since the source is biased.

Yeah, there are some extremist Catholics.

But - did Biden ever come up with anything like NSPM-7 - which rewrites the Constitution and its safeguards?

Also - instead of the attitude "They did it, so we can, too." how about "It stops here."

[CdnFox]

45 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I'm not mad. I don't get mad. It's a waste of time.

You frequently get mad. And while I always approve of a good spot impression I'm afraid that you are frequently emotional here and if you thought otherwise you were sadly mistaken   Here's a Hint by the way, people that aren't angry don't respond with the vitralic post flinging insults. Bit of a giveaway

46 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But you know, you join a debate forum, and you hope for some intelligent discussion, and those guys were massive disappointments.

The topic was a little troll baity. Like I said you can't get mad at them for their response. I understand you probably intended to be more serious than people took it but at best it was an extreme reach and I have to say when they say they felt that it was intended to be trolling I can kind of see where they would come to that conclusion.

 

47 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Trump is changing the USA in unprecedented ways. yes, it can happen there.

No, he isn't. In fact literally everything he is doing has precedent. He often does it in a very flamboyant have flagrant manner but nothing he's doing is actually terribly new in and of itself.

Hunting down and deporting illegals? Not new there. Tariffs? Not new at all. shooting up people you think are bad guys without evidence? Common practice. As was pointed out, even biden repressed the press quite a lot. 

People throw the word unprecedented around an awful lot without realizing what it actually means but as I said virtually everything he's doing has president.

I'd agree he's changing America, that part is true but so has almost every president that has ever been. Kennedy certainly did, Reagan certainly did, clinton certainly did, bush did, who didn't?

[Radiorum]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

You frequently get mad. And while I always approve of a good spot impression I'm afraid that you are frequently emotional here and if you thought otherwise you were sadly mistaken   Here's a Hint by the way, people that aren't angry don't respond with the vitralic post flinging insults. Bit of a giveaway

You mistake my eye-rolling for anger.

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

The topic was a little troll baity. Like I said you can't get mad at them for their response. I understand you probably intended to be more serious than people took it but at best it was an extreme reach and I have to say when they say they felt that it was intended to be trolling I can kind of see where they would come to that conclusion.

That the USA has sided with Russia is a topic to be taken seriously. It upends the entire world order.

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

No, he isn't. In fact literally everything he is doing has precedent. He often does it in a very flamboyant have flagrant manner but nothing he's doing is actually terribly new in and of itself.

Hunting down and deporting illegals? Not new there. Tariffs? Not new at all. shooting up people you think are bad guys without evidence? Common practice. As was pointed out, even biden repressed the press quite a lot. 

People throw the word unprecedented around an awful lot without realizing what it actually means but as I said virtually everything he's doing has president.

I'd agree he's changing America, that part is true but so has almost every president that has ever been. Kennedy certainly did, Reagan certainly did, clinton certainly did, bush did, who didn't?

Get your head out of the sand.

[User]

59 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But you know, you join a debate forum, and you hope for some intelligent discussion, and those guys were massive disappointments.

You have to be kidding. You push surface-level deep leftist talking points, and then, when challenged, quickly fall apart. 

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

That the USA has sided with Russia is a topic to be taken seriously. It upends the entire world order.

The US has not sided with Russia. 

[Legato]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You mistake my eye-rolling for anger.

That the USA has sided with Russia is a topic to be taken seriously. It upends the entire world order.

Get your head out of the sand.

Typical, when your argument fails use dismissive conjecture.

[Radiorum]

15 minutes ago, User said:

You have to be kidding. You push surface-level deep leftist talking points, and then, when challenged, quickly fall apart. 

What I give you is facts that you have no rebuttal to.

16 minutes ago, User said:

The US has not sided with Russia. 

Come out into the light!!

[User]

1 minute ago, Radiorum said:

What I give you is facts that you have no rebuttal to.

Yeah right. This entire forum section is full of threads you have run away from on just the front page... some of them you created! ROFL
 

2 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Come out into the light!!

Oh yeah, here is your factual discussion... ROFL

[gatomontes99]

32 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

But - did Biden ever come up with anything like NSPM-7 - which rewrites the Constitution and its safeguards?

NSPM-7 does not rewrite the Constitution or eliminate any safeguards. These hysterics need to stop. 

What it does do is allow the appropriate agencies to use the tools they need to track and stop terrorists operating in our borders. Is that the best solution? Maybe. Maybe not. If you have a better option to prevent terrorism, let's hear it. 

The ACLU (super biased source BTW, why are you giving me problems when you are using that?) Only really talked about ANTIFA. You know they are involved in multiple shootings of CBP agents? They are killing or attempting to kill people, with a political goal. Is that not terrorism? 

42 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

I would need to see the memo cited in the first article since the source is biased.

How have you not seen this? What news are you consuming that did not cover it?

44 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Yeah, there are some extremist Catholics.

Are there? Is there some modern day crusaders? 

 

46 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Also - instead of the attitude "They did it, so we can, too." how about "It stops here."

You were just defending Biden doing it. You guys always have "rules for thee but not for me." If you are going to demand I be mad about what Trump is doing, maybe you shouldn't be such a huge hypocrite.  

[Radiorum]

You guys, you are so funny. I am really trying to understand you. The main thrust seems to be: It's us vs. them. Of course, you learned this from Trump. Or is it just your toxic masculinity rearing its ugly head? 

1 minute ago, User said:

threads you have run away from

Let's be clear, I don't run away. I just don't respond to posts that do not deserve a response because they are so stupid.

 

 

[Radiorum]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

What it does do is allow the appropriate agencies to use the tools they need to track and stop terrorists operating in our borders. Is that the best solution? Maybe. Maybe not. If you have a better option to prevent terrorism, let's hear it. 

It's not about preventing terrorism, nimrod! it's about smothering dissent!

 

4 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

ou were just defending Biden doing it.

I never defended Biden. I never said a word about Biden. I don't give a shit about Biden! But I see what is happening to the USA right now, and it is a grave cause of concern.

[User]

4 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

You guys, you are so funny. I am really trying to understand you. The main thrust seems to be: It's us vs. them. Of course, you learned this from Trump. Or is it just your toxic masculinity rearing its ugly head? 

Give an example of what you are talking about here. Who are you talking to?

5 minutes ago, Radiorum said:

Let's be clear, I don't run away. I just don't respond to posts that do not deserve a response because they are so stupid.

Lets be clear, you run away. 

Just now, Radiorum said:

It's not about preventing terrorism, nimrod! it's about smothering dissent!

How so?

Speaking of running away, we last left off our discussion here with my pointing out to you that Bondi said violence and threats of violence, as you dishonestly tried to cut that part out. 

Violence and threats of violence is not mere dissent. Is that the dissent you support?