CARNEY GIVES CABINET MINISTERS THE POWER TO EXEMPT ANYONE OR ANY CORPORATION FROM LAWS FOR 6 YEARS

[CdnFox]

Holy crap, this is REALLY bad 

Carney quietly gives sweeping new powers to his ministers

 

Hidden in the federal government’s 634-page omnibus bill C-15, the Budget Implementation Act, is a measure that has so far escaped scrutiny. Under the pretext of regulatory efficiency, Prime Minister Mark Carney plans to grant cabinet ministers the power to exempt any individual or company from any federal law on the books — except for the Criminal Code — for up to six years. 

The measure wasn’t included in the version of the Liberals’ Nov. 4 budget that was given to reporters. 

 

He can literally say that ANY company or person is EXEMPT from any law other than criminal code violations.  They can exempt a company from paying income tax.  They can exempt a person from environmental regulation or licensing requirements or even labor code.  

This is INSANE.  The house puts laws in place, and now any minister can just set that aside at a whim?

 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Holy crap, this is REALLY bad 

Oh just wait until PP has the chance to unleash some well deserved payback once he has his hands on these powers.

Then you'll be like....

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Prime Minister Mark Carney plans to grant cabinet ministers the power to exempt any individual or company from any federal law on the books — except for the Criminal Code — for up to six years.

There outta be a law don't you think? LMAO!

It's always funny watching you whine about the powerlessness of Parliament and politicians in the face of corruption.

Oh well, I'm sure all it'll take is an x or two to make things right as rain again. That always does the trick. 

Edited December 7, 2025 by eyeball
I forgot the shit eating smiley face

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Oh just wait until PP has the chance to unleash some well deserved payback once he has his hands on these powers.

Then you'll be like....

I'lll say the same thing i say about trump.... if you didn't complain when the leftie loonies did it, you can't complain if someone does it back  

Harper played fair and stuck to the rules, this corruption and abuse of power is a liberal thing.  You can't expect the other side to play fair if your side constantly breaks the rules. 

So you've had your fair warning  whatever you guys do in power is fair game for the next guy. No whining or crying will be of any help. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

There outta be a law don't you think? LMAO!

There is a law, carney is changing it.  See how that works?  Now don't you regret supporting the libs again?  LOLOL

 

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It's always funny watching you whine about the powerlessness of Parliament and politicians in the face of corruption.

Powerlessness?  They have all the power in the world to be corrupt if they want. What the hell are you talking about?

The only group that can hold them to account is the voters.  But you keep supporting their corruption. Hell you say you don't even want to bother with elections, they're pointless.  But in reality that's how you deal with corruption. 

 

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Oh well, I'm sure all it'll take is an x or two to make things right as rain again. That always does the trick. 

Your 'x' aways goes to the libs and their corruption. You're fine with it.  And if the libs are corrupt and the country suffers oh well, that's fine as long as you got to Pown the conservatives amirite?

[Barquentine]

5 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Harper played fair and stuck to the rules

OMG, do a simple google search on Stephen Harper scandals. Or how he routinely shut down Parliament when things weren't going his way...

 

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The house puts laws in place, and now any minister can just set that aside at a whim?

Is that like the Notwithstanding clause that Alberta and Quebec are so fond of? Allows them to do whatever they want?

Does this override provincial powers?

 

On the face of it this doesn't look good. It's like other countries are doing, centralising more power in the federal leader's office. How it's implemented will be very telling.

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Division 5 of Part 5 amends the Red Tape Reduction Act to, among other things, authorize ministers to grant temporary exemptions from the application of provisions of certain Acts of Parliament and instruments with the aim of facilitating the design, modification or administration of regulatory regimes to encourage innovation, competitiveness or economic growth.

Conditions:

(3)A minister may make an order under subsection (1) only if the minister is of the opinion that
(a)the exemption is in the public interest;
(b)the exemption would enable the testing of, among other things, a product, service, process, procedure or regulatory measure with the aim of facilitating the design, modification or administration of a regulatory regime to encourage innovation, competitiveness or economic growth;
(c)the benefits associated with the exemption outweigh the risks;
(d)sufficient resources exist, and appropriate measures will be taken, to maintain oversight of the testing, manage any risks associated with the exemption and protect public health and safety and the environment; and
(e)a feasible implementation plan has been developed.

Public Information
14(1)Subject to subsections (2) and (3), a minister must, as soon as feasible after making an order under section 12, make the order and the following information publicly accessible:
(a)a description of the decision-making process and a summary of the reasons for the order; and
(b)a description of the process for providing comments or information to, or requesting information from, the minister in relation to the order."

There are some guard rails.

How would the Conservatives get big projects done? Will they reverse this if they get into office?

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, Barquentine said:

OMG, do a simple google search on Stephen Harper scandals. Or how he routinely shut down Parliament when things weren't going his way...

LOL you're such a liar    Tell me one of harper's "Corruption" scandals  He made mistakes and did contentious things but in fact he was by far and away the LEAST corrupt by a million miles. 

And EVERY SINGLE GOV"T IN OUR ENTIRE HISTORY has shut down parliament under similar reasons, proroguing parliament is a normal and natural part of the process. And you've got a lot of nerve bringing it up considering this Very YEAR the liberals shut down the parliament because things weren't going their way to hold a fake mini-leadership and install carney. 

 

 

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Is that like the Notwithstanding clause that Alberta and Quebec are so fond of? Allows them to do whatever they want?

No, that's a constitutional document. The house did not put the charter of rights and freedoms into place. 

Why the hell don't you know that? how did you NOT know that the federal gov't can't pass constitutional law or amendments?!!?!?  The charter followed the required 7/50 rule. 

FFS it's bad enough you ARE ignorant, don't effing broadcast it like that!

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Does this override provincial powers?

 

No. it would only apply to federal law.  Otherwise it would be a severe constitutional crisis. 

 

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On the face of it this doesn't look good. It's like other countries are doing, centralising more power in the federal leader's office. How it's implemented will be very telling.

That is true. 

 

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There are some guard rails.

Not really.  The 6 year thing sort of but historically anything that goes on that long is 'normalized' and at the end they say 'but we've been doing it for years now' and it just continues.

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How would the Conservatives get big projects done? Will they reverse this if they get into office?

They would get big projects done by actually correcting the law to remove unnecessary red tape and allow projects to move forward. Streamline the process, spell out clear requirements and have a single approval method and eliminate laws that prevent projects in the first place like the no pipeline bill and the tanker ban. 

AND they're smart enough to go to the first nations at the beginning and include them so that they were comfortable enough with the process that they didn't lash out and dig their heels in.  

And they've been clear about all of that for ages. 

Carney didn't do that because he thought it would upset his caucus, and now they're upset anyway so he's trying to eat his cake and have it. 

[Legato]

That weird noise you hear is all the Brookfield exec's opening new anonymous bank accounts for a fixed 6 year term.

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

Oh just wait until PP has the chance to unleash some well deserved payback once he has his hands on these powers.

Then you'll be like....

Dude, you couldn't come with any defence at all, so instead of staying quiet you decided to let "Poilievre will probably do it too" fly outta your worthless gob? 

Edited December 7, 2025 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

There outta be a law don't you think? LMAO!

It's always funny watching you whine about the powerlessness of Parliament and politicians in the face of corruption.

Oh well, I'm sure all it'll take is an x or two to make things right as rain again. That always does the trick. 

It's always funny watching you pretend to be "Mr gov't oversight, the ultimate libertarian", and then blindly back the libs or Dems' next level of fascism. 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

LOL you're such a liar    Tell me one of harper's "Corruption" scandals  

OMG THERE WAS THE TIME WHEN MIKE DUFFY CLAIMED NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TRAVEL EXPENSES WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE LEGITIMATE, BUT THE CONSERVATIVES PAID IT BACK!!!!!!!!! 

That was, by far, the biggest scandal in Canadian political history, from the CBC's POV.

Theoretically it was much bigger than the $900M WE scandal, when Trudeau gave his personal friends there (the ones who lavished hundreds of thousands of dollars on Trudeau's mom and made gag-worthy Hitler-Youth-style propaganda for him) almost a billion dollars to brainwash children. 

[CdnFox]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG THERE WAS THE TIME WHEN MIKE DUFFY CLAIMED NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS IN TRAVEL EXPENSES WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE LEGITIMATE, BUT THE CONSERVATIVES PAID IT BACK!!!!!!!!! 

That was, by far, the biggest scandal in Canadian political history, from the CBC's POV.

 

This is what kills me.  Harpers big "Corruption" may have been that he forced taxpayers to get their money back from a scumbag. 

Which makes him about as corrupt as robin hood i guess.  Whereas justin made prince john look good. 

He fired a cabinet minister over ordering 14 dollar orange juice.  Justin spent a quarter of a million dollars on AIRPLANE FOOD and snacks in a week. 

But @Barquentine and his ilk would pretend that somehow it's HARPER that's corrupt. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But @Barquentine and his ilk would pretend that somehow it's HARPER that's corrupt. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Dude, a 50-yr-old electrician told me that "Poilievre is too negative and he has never done anything besides work as a politician" this week. 

It wasn't like a communist barista that said that, or a pet-therapist, a BLM rioter with an X burned into her forehead, or a 24-yr-old school teacher... a full-grown working man said that shit. 

CBC's propaganda just works. Somehow, people all over this country still believe what they see on CBC. I'm starting to think that some of these people still secretly believe in Santa but they're too afraid to say it.  

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Dude, a 50-yr-old electrician told me that "Poilievre is too negative and he has never done anything besides work as a politician" this week. 

It wasn't like a communist barista that said that, or a pet-therapist, a BLM rioter with an X burned into her forehead, or a 24-yr-old school teacher... a full-grown working man said that shit. 

CBC's propaganda just works. Somehow, people all over this country still believe what they see on CBC. I'm starting to think that some of these people still secretly believe in Santa but they're too afraid to say it.  

It works on older people. They still tend to get the vast majority of their media from CBC and global.

Younger people who are more exposed to the internet are vastly more likely to vote for Poilievre and support him. Both the polling numbers before and since the election and the election results themselves strongly indicate that this is true.

Where the CBC is the sole or primary source of information yes it absolutely works. With younger people who have access to forums and YouTube and alternative media where the truth can actually be exposed and they get both sides of the story, not so much

[BeaverFever]

On 12/6/2025 at 11:08 PM, CdnFox said:

They can exempt a company from paying income tax.  They can exempt a person from environmental regulation or licensing requirements or even labor code.

Conservatives hate all those things anyway. You should be creaming your jeans right now. 

Or are you just upset that the exemptions are only temporary and to be granted in exceptional circumstances??

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Conservatives hate all those things anyway. You should be creaming your jeans right now. 

Perhaps the reason you missed the point is that there's a principle is involved here.

 

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Or are you just upset that the exemptions are only temporary and to be granted in exceptional circumstances??

A better question is will you be upset when the same shoe is on the other foot and aligned in the opposite direction.... because I'm pretty sure it will be.

The actions you defend now (and the way you do it BTW) are going to become "The Ghost of Hitler Past" for you in the near future. In effect you're gleefully creating the equal and opposite blowback you will come to despise when that shoe flips. And when that happens you'll get the sort of responses (in return) that you author today... and you won't like it.

You get that right?

 

  

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Conservatives hate all those things anyway.

Sure, and we believe things like taxes should be reduced for everybody.

EVERY BODY.  Not select friends of the liberals in return for god knows what favors.  This is just more corruption. 

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Or are you just upset that the exemptions are only temporary and to be granted in exceptional circumstances??

Everything in gov't is "temporary' till the next guy changes it, but yeah... the fact that it will now only apply to the 'elite' chosen by the liberals is very bad. 

I can explain why it's very bad if your moral compass is so far broken that you can't puzzle out why being able to grant massive favors like that with no oversight to your friends is a problem. 

[eyeball]

On 12/7/2025 at 1:47 PM, WestCanMan said:

Dude, you couldn't come with any defence at all, so instead of staying quiet you decided to let "Poilievre will probably do it too" fly outta your worthless gob? 

If I joined in the attack against corruption you'd just say I was defending it.

But hey don't you think there's lots of good things to say about the Grease Argument for corruption? Buying your way around red tape, sidestepping regulations to get things done...

I'm actually coming around to contemplating how woke the Sand in the Wheels Argument against corruption is. Look how freaking long it takes Liberals to get anything done. It's enough to make you wonder if they're honesty Nazis or something.

LMAO!

On 12/7/2025 at 1:51 PM, WestCanMan said:

It's always funny watching you pretend to be "Mr gov't oversight, the ultimate libertarian", and then blindly back the libs or Dems' next level of fascism. 

It's also funny watching you bozos comparing so-called lefties to fascists.

None of you bozos can think straight about anything.

LMAO!

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

If I joined in the attack against corruption you'd just say I was defending it.

So you decided to defend it instead???

Interesting logic

Maybe try not voting for it first

[eyeball]

On 12/7/2025 at 2:56 PM, CdnFox said:

But @Barquentine and his ilk would pretend that somehow it's HARPER that's corrupt. 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Speaking for myself it only underscores that Conservatives are as useless at committing corruption as they are at preventing it.

And yet... Liberals still can't make the Grease Argument work for them.

Maybe Conservatives could if they only tried harder.🤣🤣🤣🤣

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Maybe try voting for it.

But I did...and you know you can take that to the bank. You don't trust me?

LMAO!

[eyeball]

On 12/7/2025 at 4:29 PM, WestCanMan said:

I'm starting to think that some of these people still secretly believe in Santa but they're too afraid to say it.  

And yet every politician and governments broken promise makes you people cry like little kids who just found out Santa is either a fairy tale or a marketing ploy they bought into.

Edited December 9, 2025 by eyeball

[eyeball]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Everything in gov't is "temporary' till the next guy changes it,

So change that. Make measures against corruption permanent.

Settle the argument once and for all.

Grease or Sand?

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So change that. Make measures against corruption permanent.

How.

The only permanent measures we have they can't be taken away or changed is the right to vote. And as we all know you wish that was taken away as well

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

How.

The only permanent measures we have they can't be taken away or changed is the right to vote. And as we all know you wish that was taken away as well

@eyeball....  I see you put a vote on this comment, but you couldn't reply. 

Every time we talk on the subject you prove yourself a liar and a supporter of corruption.  And then you get big mad when people point it out later. 

Just like your support of terrorism and the slaughter of innocent people. 

If you don't want to get called on this bullshit you need to learn to actually address it intelligently