blackbird Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 (edited) PM Carney recently brought Marc Miller back into cabinet and tragically it appears Marc Miller has set his sights on destroying freedom of religion and freedom of speech in Canada. They appear to be trying to make it look like this is for the purpose of opposing anti-Semitism. Who is going to be the judge of what is hate speech? It is purely subjective. Anyone who disagrees with LGBTQ or trans ideology being taught in schools or opposes giving trans kids in schools anti hormone therapy or surgery, or opposes keeping gender name-changing from parents knowledge, could be a target of such a new law. There are already safeguards to protect freedom of speech while outlawing hate speech. Miller wants to remove those safeguards and eliminate any speech that someone deems hateful. Anyone who dislikes someone else's religious beliefs or religious texts could use the new C9 to go after them, if it becomes law. Conservatives oppose the new bill C9 which Conservatives say is an attack on freedom of religion and speech. They say it will also put a damper on free speech in Canada. The Conservative party is not a religious party and has no particular religion it is trying to defend. Conservatives seem to be sincere in trying to defend freedom of religion and speech for everyone. They want to keep the safeguards in place to prevent abuse by anti-hate laws, such as the proposed C9. quote Liberal MP Marc Miller serves as the chair of the House of Commons Standing Committee on Justice and Human Rights. On October 30, 2025, he made these comments about the Bible during a committee meeting: “In Leviticus, Deuteronomy, Romans – there’s other passages – there is clear hatred towards, for example, homosexuals… I mean, clearly there are situations in these texts where these statements are hateful. They should not be used to invoke or be a defense.” The committee was studying Bill C-9, which the Liberal government is calling the Combatting Hate Act. When a government leader publicly calls passages of Scripture clearly hateful, it reveals something far deeper than a policy debate. It shows a government forgetting its duty before God. Civil authority is not ultimate. Scripture teaches that those in power are ministers of God, called to uphold justice and protect truth. From the very book Minister Miller referenced, Romans 13:1 reads, “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.” And in Psalm 2:10-11, we are told, “Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth. Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.” John Sikkema, Legal Counsel and Director of Law and Policy for ARPA Canada, had the opportunity to present to the same committee a few hours after Miller’s comments. As Mr. Sikkema said in his statement before the committee: “….today in Canada, people are being accused, often by government officials, of promoting hatred simply for expressing moral or political views. Earlier this month, the British Columbia Legislature condemned ARPA as hateful… A B.C. government MLA even told a story… [that] defamed and vilified Reformed Christians as criminal harassers, which seems like a way, frankly, to stir up hatred against this group, while at the same time accusing these Christians of promoting hatred for the views that they hold.” When leaders begin labelling parts of the Bible as dangerous or hateful, they place themselves above the very law that gives their authority any meaning. Our concern is not merely for Christians, but for Canada itself. A nation cannot claim to pursue justice while rejecting the standard of the One who defines it. Government serves under God’s authority, and it has a duty to ensure that His Word and those who live by it remain free to speak. This gets to the heart of Christian concerns about Bill C-9. unquote Bible labelled as hateful by government MP | Reformed Perspective Edited December 3, 2025 by blackbird 1 Quote
John Stone Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 Liberal MP Marc Miller? Marc, if you want to impress try condemning the Quran? Dare ya! Quote
herbie Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 Takes a true believer to not notice there are some hateful and no longer acceptable things in the Bible. Sorry a politician had to tell you. Takes another bigot to try to excuse them with a childlish Islam is worser reply. 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 3 hours ago, herbie said: Takes a true believer to not notice there are some hateful and no longer acceptable things in the Bible. Sorry a politician had to tell you. Takes another bigot to try to excuse them with a childlish Islam is worser reply. I think a court already put a restriction on quoting the Bible in some contexts in Canada. And yes it was Leviticus Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Shady Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 Canada is becoming less and less free each passing day. 1 Quote
herbie Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 Only if you're clueless to what freedom is. Quote
Army Guy Posted December 3, 2025 Report Posted December 3, 2025 5 minutes ago, herbie said: Only if you're clueless to what freedom is. I'm curious what does freedom mean to you herbie ? 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
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