Ottawa orders new study on kids’ mental health after COVID lockdown warnings grow harder to ignore

[CdnFox]

Ottawa orders new study on kids’ mental health after COVID lockdown warnings grow harder to ignore

So it turns out that the covid lockdowns for kids may have done serious permanent harm with very serious consequences to kids. 

Remember when those evil far right anti vaxxer scum were out there saying that you did more harm than good locking kids up during covid?

Yeah. Turns out they were right. 

Why didn't those guys just follow the science? 

[Venandi]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah. Turns out they were right. 

And it saddens me to think of the effect it had on seniors (confined to group homes) that found themselves isolated and alone at a time in their lives when they craved the support of family and friends the most. 

 

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, Venandi said:

And it saddens me to think of the effect it had on seniors (confined to group homes) that found themselves isolated and alone at a time in their lives when they craved the support of family and friends the most. 

 

And often died alone, never getting to see their family one last time.  Not to mention the effect that has on the families,  knowing their loved ones died like that. 

At least there was SOME sort of argument early on for isolating seniors as they were at risk, but the children... kids didn't die of covid in any numbers that mean anything, and yet we've probably seriously damaged an entire generation, millions and millions of them. 

[John Stone]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And often died alone, never getting to see their family one last time.  Not to mention the effect that has on the families,  knowing their loved ones died like that. 

At least there was SOME sort of argument early on for isolating seniors as they were at risk, but the children... kids didn't die of covid in any numbers that mean anything, and yet we've probably seriously damaged an entire generation, millions and millions of them. 

........... suppose once the 'kids' get to be fk'd up adults they'll have a good excuse as to why they're fk'd up adults that beat their dog (2 and 4 legged). 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Venandi said:

And it saddens me to think of the effect it had on seniors (confined to group homes) that found themselves isolated and alone at a time in their lives when they craved the support of family and friends the most. 

 

I see you got a little down arrow from @ExFlyer

I know he's a scumbag but i'm surprised to see he SUPPORTS seniors dying alone. 

I guess that does help explain why the libs were able to get away with such things at the time. 

[Barquentine]

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

But after a while Covid mutated into something less lethal. 

Apparently you would have preferred more deaths during that first wave?

Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

[John Stone]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

But after a while Covid mutated into something less lethal. 

Apparently you would have preferred more deaths during that first wave?

Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

 

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

But after a while Covid mutated into something less lethal. 

Apparently you would have preferred more deaths during that first wave?

Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

RE: Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

Proves nothing. 

Covid was an  aerosol 

U.S. has a greater population - x10? 

Cities are much larger - immigration is greater - density is greater. 

Akin to why TB is more prevalent for those communities in the far north. 

One thing is  becoming somewhat  clear - we are less prepared for the next pandemic

For fks sake we can't even get measles under control. 

 

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Barquentine said:

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

But after a while Covid mutated into something less lethal. 

Apparently you would have preferred more deaths during that first wave?

Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

Was that about the time flu deaths saw a significant decrease?

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

But after a while Covid mutated into something less lethal. 

Apparently you would have preferred more deaths during that first wave?

 

It's always immediately apparent that you know you're wrong and you have no way of arguing the truth when you are forced to twist what is said and argue something that has never been claimed.

The fact is the vast majority of the time the kids were kept at home covid was no threat to them.

You're trying to expand it to be "People", But the reality is almost no children died from covid's first effects. So you're entirely wrong

[Goddess]

On 11/30/2025 at 11:49 AM, CdnFox said:

Remember when those evil far right anti vaxxer scum were out there saying that you did more harm than good locking kids up during covid?

Yeah. Turns out they were right. 

Why didn't those guys just follow the science? 

When lockdowns began dragging on, I posted a bunch of child psychologists and other child development experts who warned about this.

The number of people on this board that attacked me and called me a conspiracy theorist and all kinds of names.....most here will never, ever, ever admit how damaging to children and teens this was. 

And how unnecessary.

[Goddess]

On 11/30/2025 at 11:58 AM, Venandi said:

And it saddens me to think of the effect it had on seniors (confined to group homes) that found themselves isolated and alone at a time in their lives when they craved the support of family and friends the most. 

 

And that we were not allowed funerals or funerals with only 5-10 people.

A funeral is a psychological necessity for humans.  I still hear people who are deeply saddened and guilty and resentful of not being able to say goodbye to their loved ones and be with family after a death.

There's a reason why we have never done lockdowns before.

The science always was that they were more damaging than helpful.

[Goddess]

6 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You don't seem to remember how many people were dying from Covid's first effects. Let me remind you: A LOT!

99.5% survival rate.

IFR slightly higher than the seasonal flu.

Which mysteriously disappeared for a few crucial years........

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But the reality is almost no children died from covid's first effects.

There were so many children NOT dying from it, that Alberta had to fake one.

Edited December 1, 2025 by Goddess

[John Stone]

...........suppose any individual in Western society should be grateful that they didn't reside in China during  the Pandemic. 

Without getting into the weeds i think we can agree that for a medically advanced country, China's reaction to the Covid was ............... draconian ....... unprecedented?

I think we should also keep in mind that China's reaction was certainly not driven by partisan politics re: vaccines, isolation. 

China realized the potential magnitude of the threat to their country......... and reacted ........little pushback (ha) 

Of course China's degree of response to the threat would NEVER work in  ............ the West. 

However, it demonstrated that China is arguably better prepared for the next pandemic (it is coming) than any other  country in the World. 

Fer fks sake we're so dysfunctional we can't regain control of measles?

Robert Kennedy jr argues the country needs to build up immunity naturally ......... damn the torpedoes (deaths) ...... he labels it 'herd' immunity......... to (1) disease? How about the others, Bob? 

 

Edited December 1, 2025 by John Stone

[herbie]

5 hours ago, John Stone said:

RE: Americans died at 10 times the Canadian rate.

Proves nothing. 

Covid was an  aerosol 

U.S. has a greater population - x10? 

MAGA math major strikes again.
Allong with the anti-vax dimwits pretending the study is about Covid and not the effects of social isolation.

[eyeball]

On 11/30/2025 at 10:49 AM, CdnFox said:

So it turns out that the covid lockdowns for kids may have done serious permanent harm with very serious consequences to kids. 

No doubt kids who had to witness their gas-lit parents losing their shit and raging against pandemic measures and vaccine suffered the worst.

Who knows what sort of psychos they'll grow up to be.

[CdnFox]

30 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No doubt kids who had to witness their gas-lit parents losing their shit and raging against pandemic measures and vaccine suffered the worst.

 

The evidence says no.

But let's get real. For you it's not about the children it's about defending your echo chamber and the liberals same as always.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

The evidence says no.

Cite please.

[Goddess]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

For you it's not about the children it's about defending your echo chamber and the liberals same as always.

I've had this conversation with eyeball many times over the covid years, every time I've posted studies or articles about the effect of the jabs or lockdowns, the increase in suicide amongst teens, the deaths....

I've asked him how many children have to die before he feels "safe" from covid.  How many children have to suffer?

He has never had an answer.

He will argue til the cows come home that no child has ever died from or been disabled by the jabs, no children were damaged by any of the restrictions.

He doesn't care what any of this did to children.

I have less than zero respect for this animal.

 

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

I've had this conversation with eyeball many times over the covid years, every time I've posted studies or articles about the effect of the jabs or lockdowns, the increase in suicide amongst teens, the deaths....

I've asked him how many children have to die before he feels "safe" from covid.  How many children have to suffer?

He has never had an answer.

I've always had an answer, it just makes your head explode is all.

An acceptable fatality rate is a minimal rate vastly lower than the death rate or disruption caused by COVID or public measures to prevent it, ensuring a net reduction in harm to the population.

This is true of just about everything in life that somebody somewhere has to make a decision knowing none can be made without some risk.

In case you try to say one death is too many I understand some people accepted a higher pandemic death rate in a number of countries where it was viewed as an indicator of commitment to freedom - a Tree of Liberty sorta thing where it was necessary.

 

Edited December 2, 2025 by eyeball

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

I've always had an answer, it just makes your head explode is all.

An acceptable fatality rate is a minimal rate vastly lower than the death rate or disruption caused by COVID or public measures to prevent it, ensuring a net reduction in harm to the population.

This is true of just about everything in life that somebody somewhere has to make a decision knowing none can be made without some risk.

In case you try to say one death is too many I understand some people accepted a higher pandemic death rate in a number of countries where it was viewed as an indicator of commitment to freedom - a Tree of Liberty sorta thing where it was necessary.

 

Children faced zero risk from covid.

You wanted them all force-jabbed multiple times with an experimental vax.

Because you thought it would save your own skin.

You wanted children locked down.

You wanted schools closed.

Because you thought it would save your own skin.

You disgust me.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

You wanted them all force-jabbed multiple times with an experimental vax.

Because you thought it would save your own skin.

Because it's what health authorities and experts prescribed. Pretty much around the planet.

I doubt they meant 7-8 needles all at once strapped to a gurney just for shits and giggles though.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Because it's what health authorities and experts prescribed. Pretty much around the planet.

I doubt they meant 7-8 needles all at once strapped to a gurney just for shits and giggles though.

but they were wrong as it turns out.

And you didn't really care about the children, what you cared about is trying to support the idea of left-wing control over people

We've seen it a million times from you, you will happily see the death of a child or a woman or anybody at all if it advances what you perceive to be your socialist agenda.

[Barquentine]

22 hours ago, John Stone said:

U.S. has a greater population - x10?

My mistake. I meant to say Americans died at TWICE the RATE Canadians did. 60,000 Canadians vs 1,200,00 Americans.

[John Stone]

....... the 'damaged' generation is water under the bridge. 

Supposedly back in the day and MAD was a strategy, children were instructed (and practiced) how to take cover under their desks and in hallways. Something labelled the Cuban Missile Crisis had the WORLD on the edge of destruction - literally - one button push away. 

Those children seemed to weather the storm - likely a credit to their parents not constantly telling them that their survival was in question? The media saying the same? 

How's this sound - if ur kid is fk'd,  blame urself as a parent and stop  pointing fingers. 

[Barquentine]

On 11/30/2025 at 3:05 PM, CdnFox said:

kids didn't die of covid in any numbers that mean anything

It was the SPREAD of Covid we were fighting, with the best knowledge we had at the time. If we'd followed your idea of no isolation, we would have lost a lot more people.

Now, thanks to the anti-isolationists like you, next time we will lose more people to whatever killing disease sweeps the world.