The administration has no conscience or sense of justice at all.

[blackbird]

"A man who spent 43 years in prison before his conviction was overturned now faces deportation

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — After waiting more than four decades to clear his name in a friend’s 1980 killing, Subramanyam Vedam was set to walk free from a Pennsylvania prison this month.

Vedam and Thomas Kinser were the 19-year-old children of Penn State University faculty. Vedam was the last person seen with Kinser and was twice convicted of killing him, despite a lack of witnesses or motive.

In August, a judge threw out the conviction after Vedam's lawyers found new ballistics evidence that prosecutors had never disclosed.

As his sister prepared to bring him home on Oct. 3, the thin, white-haired Vedam was instead taken into federal custody over a 1999 deportation order. The 64-year-old, who legally came to the U.S. from India when he was 9 months old, now faces another daunting legal fight.

Amid the Trump Administration's focus on mass deportation, Vedam's lawyers must persuade an immigration court that a 1980s drug conviction should be outweighed by the years he wrongly spent in prison. For a time, immigration law allowed people who had reformed their lives to seek such waivers. Vedam never pursued it then because of the murder conviction.  "

A man who spent 43 years in prison before his conviction was overturned now faces deportation

Here is a guy who legally came to the U.S. when he was 9 months old, was wrongly convicted and spent his life 43 years in prison.  And now the administration arrested him and locked him up again and is deporting him.  They have absolutely no sense of justice, compassion or understanding.   

He should be given 20 million dollars in compensation and treated with the utmost dignity and respect after all the injustice done against him.

I understand there are some brainless MAGA people on here who will support the admin no matter what the case is, but they are not human and have no humanity.

Edited October 29, 2025 by blackbird

[User]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I understand there are some brainless MAGA people on here who will support the admin no matter what the case is, but they are not human and have no humanity.

You are trying to find every fringe case you can, when in reality you support open borders madness and this lawlessness across the board.

YOU are the heartless person who doesn’t care how many Americans are killed, murdered, raped, victims of violence, or are victims of any number of other crimes by ILLEGAL immigrants who shouldn’t be here.

Even now, the reality and fact you ignore is this man had a lawful deportation order because he was a criminal before the murder conviction.

It doesn’t matter if you initially came here lawfully, you don’t have a right to stay forever when you engage in crime. 

[blackbird]

This guy who was wrongly convicted and spent 43 years in prison for it is more deserving of citizenship than some of the merciless posters on here.  Shame on them.

Edited October 30, 2025 by blackbird

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, blackbird said:

This guy who was wrongly convicted and spent 43 years in prison for it is more deserving of citizenship than some of the merciless posters on here.  Shame on them.

 

Well, if it makes him feel any better, actual U.S. citizens also spend decades in prison after wrongful conviction.   Welcome to America !!

[blackbird]

32 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Well, if it makes him feel any better, actual U.S. citizens also spend decades in prison after wrongful conviction.   Welcome to America !!

Welcome back!  Think last time I saw you on here was 2022.  Hope you are doing well.  Cheers.

Yes, he is being rewarded now for his wrongful conviction and 43 years in prison with deportation to India, which is totally foreign to him.  He should receive ten million dollars compensation.  He is 63 yrs old and spent two-thirds of his life in prison for a wrongful conviction.  He should at least be given citizenship and released with some compensation to live on.  One would think the authorities would want to be just and try to do something for the wrong done to him.  Apparently not. 

Edited October 30, 2025 by blackbird

[bush_cheney2004]

21 minutes ago, blackbird said:

... He is 63 yrs old and spent two-thirds of his life in prison for a wrongful conviction.  He should at least be given citizenship and released with some compensation to live on.  One would think the authorities would want to be just and try to do something for the wrong done to him.  Apparently not. 

 

I recognize that the injustice is real, but he will have to seek redress and compensation just like any U.S. citizen wrongfully imprisoned.  That means attorneys, money, and other support.   I know it sucks, but that is how the states and feds roll.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Well, if it makes him feel any better, actual U.S. citizens also spend decades in prison after wrongful conviction.   Welcome to America !!

But most citizens in that scenario get COMPENSATION. Unfortunate you didn't know that. 

[bush_cheney2004]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

But most citizens in that scenario get COMPENSATION. Unfortunate you didn't know that. 

 

Not without litigation and/or executive mandate...unfortunate you didn't know that.

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

 

Not without litigation and/or executive mandate...unfortunate you didn't know that.

Most often (in many states) no lawsuit is required.

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State and federal compensation laws

• State statutes: Many states have laws that provide a payment per year of wrongful imprisonment, which is the most direct and common path to compensation. The payment amounts and requirements vary significantly from state to state.

 

[blackbird]

4 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Most often (in many states) no lawsuit is required.

 

That makes sense.  One would think governments would want to do the right thing without the victim having to hire lawyers and fight for it.

"1  A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight."  Proverbs 11:1 KJV

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[User]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

That makes sense.  One would think governments would want to do the right thing without the victim having to hire lawyers and fight for it.

"1  A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight."  Proverbs 11:1 KJV

I’m sure he will get compensated, and he can take that back to his country of origin with him. 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I recognize that the injustice is real, but he will have to seek redress and compensation just like any U.S. citizen wrongfully imprisoned.  That means attorneys, money, and other support.   I know it sucks, but that is how the states and feds roll.

I think for some people even this much latitude would be seen as woke soft-on-crime coddling.

[CdnFox]

14 hours ago, blackbird said:

"A man who spent 43 years in prison before his conviction was overturned now faces deportation

PHILADELPHIA (AP) — After waiting more than four decades to clear his name in a friend’s 1980 killing, Subramanyam Vedam was set to walk free from a Pennsylvania prison this month.

Vedam and Thomas Kinser were the 19-year-old children of Penn State University faculty. Vedam was the last person seen with Kinser and was twice convicted of killing him, despite a lack of witnesses or motive.

In August, a judge threw out the conviction after Vedam's lawyers found new ballistics evidence that prosecutors had never disclosed.

As his sister prepared to bring him home on Oct. 3, the thin, white-haired Vedam was instead taken into federal custody over a 1999 deportation order. The 64-year-old, who legally came to the U.S. from India when he was 9 months old, now faces another daunting legal fight.

Amid the Trump Administration's focus on mass deportation, Vedam's lawyers must persuade an immigration court that a 1980s drug conviction should be outweighed by the years he wrongly spent in prison. For a time, immigration law allowed people who had reformed their lives to seek such waivers. Vedam never pursued it then because of the murder conviction.  "

A man who spent 43 years in prison before his conviction was overturned now faces deportation

Here is a guy who legally came to the U.S. when he was 9 months old, was wrongly convicted and spent his life 43 years in prison.  And now the administration arrested him and locked him up again and is deporting him.  They have absolutely no sense of justice, compassion or understanding.   

He should be given 20 million dollars in compensation and treated with the utmost dignity and respect after all the injustice done against him.

I understand there are some brainless MAGA people on here who will support the admin no matter what the case is, but they are not human and have no humanity.

He's not lawfully allowed to be in the country how is this anything other than just enforcing the law?

If you don't like the law change it. I've said that a million times and you have never once ever proposed to change to the law. You'll whole argument is that we should just break laws whenever we feel it's really a good idea.

That's not how law works. It's a shame he was locked up for so long for a crime he didn't commit. It's not a shame that he's being deported for a law that he is in violation of

[blackbird]

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PHILADELPHIA (AP) — Two separate courts have ordered immigration officials not to deport a Pennsylvania man who spent four decades in prison before his murder conviction was overturned.

Subramanyam Vedam, 64, is currently detained at a short-term holding center in Alexandria, Louisiana, that’s equipped with an airstrip for deportations. Vedam, a legal permanent resident known as “Subu,” was transferred there from central Pennsylvania last week, relatives said.

An immigration judge stayed his deportation on Thursday until the Bureau of Immigration Appeals decides whether to review his case. That could take several months. Vedam's lawyers also got a stay the same day in U.S. District Court in Pennsylvania, but said that case may be on hold given the immigration court ruling.

Vedam came to the U.S. legally from India as an infant and grew up in State College, where his father taught at Penn State. He was serving a life sentence in a friend's 1980 death before his conviction was overturned this year.

He was released from state prison on Oct. 3, only to be taken straight into immigration custody.

The Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement is seeking to deport Vedam over his no contest plea to charges of LSD delivery, filed when he was about 20. His lawyers argue that the four decades he wrongly spent in prison, where he earned degrees and tutored fellow inmates, should outweigh the drug case.

A Department of Homeland Security spokesperson said Monday that the reversal in the murder case does not negate the drug conviction.

A photograph of Saraswathi, 6, and Subramanyam, 2, Vedam posing for a photo in their State College, Pa., home in 1963. (Saraswathi Vedam via AP)© The Associated Press

“Having a single conviction vacated will not stop ICE’s enforcement of the federal immigration law," Tricia McLaughlin," Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs, said in an email.

Vedam's sister said Monday that the family is relieved “that two different judges have agreed that Subu’s deportation is unwarranted while his effort to re-open his immigration case is still pending."

“We’re also hopeful that Board of Immigration Appeals will ultimately agree that Subu’s deportation would represent another untenable injustice,” Saraswathi Vedam said, "inflicted on a man who not only endured 43 years in a maximum-security prison for a crime he didn’t commit, but has also lived in the U.S. since he was 9-months-old.”

Courts order ICE not to deport man who spent 43 years in prison before murder case overturned

The charge of LSD delivery when he was 20 years old should be dismissed because he spent 43 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit and more than paid for any LSD delivery charge.  He didn't oppose the LSD charge at the time because he was facing the murder charge and I assume his counsel didn't believe it was worth fighting it at the time.  Surely nobody could argue he paid for that offence many times over.  It is hard to understand ICE's reasoning unless they are being paid for every person they deport, which could have something to do with it.

 

[blackbird]

On 10/29/2025 at 10:43 PM, CdnFox said:

He's not lawfully allowed to be in the country how is this anything other than just enforcing the law?

That's not correct.  He was brought to the U.S. when he was 9 months old legally.  He was charged for an LSD delivery offence when he was 20 but spend 43 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit.  So the U.S. owes him a lot for that false imprisonment.   He more than paid many times over for the LSD  charge.  Two judges have agreed and his deportation has been put on hold now while his appeal against deportation proceeds.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

That's not correct.  He was brought to the U.S. when he was 9 months old legally. 

But that ran out. He never became a citizen or as I understand it it landed immigrant

And now he's committed a crime that he's admitted to and the law says he could be deported.

It's possible the US owes him for the imprisonment. There's not really enough here to determine whether it was false imprisonment or simply a lack of evidence or the like. If it turns out that his case was compromised and he shouldn't have spent time behind bars then absolutely the united states owes him a big huge amount of money.

That doesn't mean they owe him the right to stay in the country. He may very well find himself a very wealthy man living in india.

The system is doing its job and they are considering whether or not there's grounds for a review of his deportation. If he is in the country legally and shouldn't be deported then he will win and there you go. If not he will have to leave.

I'm not sure I see why any of that is a tragedy. He's exercising his legal rights, the government is exercising theirs, and absolutely none of this has anything to do with the fact that he was in prison for a crime which he apparently did not commit.

 

[User]

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

It is hard to understand ICE's reasoning unless they are being paid for every person they deport, which could have something to do with it.

The reasoning? It’s the law. They are a federal law enforcement agency enforcing the law.

 

[paxamericana]

On 10/29/2025 at 10:34 AM, blackbird said:

I understand there are some brainless MAGA people on here who will support the admin no matter what the case is, but they are not human and have no humanity.

You’re not ready for the truth. It’s best to deport this man. He’s not useful to society because he spent the majority of his adult life behind bars learning from convicted felon. I’m sure his skill set will be put to use once he is freed.