CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 11, 2025 Report Posted October 11, 2025 (edited) The October 7 terrorist attack and all other terrorist attacks in Middle East and around the world were carried out only by the legs of the Octopus which is the Islamic Republic of Iran. A regime terrorizing its own people, shooting them on streets, and only remains in power by terror, mass arrests, intimidations, threats and mass hangings of opposition. The West but Trump in particular must not try to negotiate or reach any agreement with this Satanic Republic. These people are not the Soviet Union you can negotiate peace. Their ideology is based on terror, hate of the west, martyrdom for their cause, betrayal and lies. They have now started developing intercontinental missiles capable of carrying nuclear weapon and reaching eastern North America. They have been developing nuclear weapons for decades secretly. The legs of Octopus cut in the past two years by Israel (Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis) will grow again or will grow new legs and soon, unless the Octopus is beheaded in Tehran. The only way out is to destroy the Islamic Republic Regime by all available means. Sanctions alone will not work as they are experienced cheaters and liars and they cheat and still sell their oil and use it to suppress internally and terrorize externally. The only way is to root them out by all available means and then the world, especially the West and Israel would be a much safer place. Edited October 11, 2025 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
herbie Posted October 12, 2025 Report Posted October 12, 2025 What makes you think it's ended? And why do you want to start another? Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 12, 2025 Author Report Posted October 12, 2025 (edited) 18 hours ago, herbie said: What makes you think it's ended? And why do you want to start another? Well ceasefire announced and holding and Israelis withdrawing and a peace agreement signed, but don't be fooled, the West must understand terrorism and the war in middle east will never be over until Islamic Republic of Iran (the head of the octopus) exists. Islamic Republic of Iran resembles Nazi Germany. Europe made the mistake of waiting too long till Hitler became very powerful because they wanted to avoid the inevitable war and they paid a heavy price of 50 million people and 5 years of war with Europe in fire. Islamic Republic of Iran is based on ideology of martyrdom which means they destroy civilization, mainly the West who they hate since they are servants of Russia and China and if they got killed in the process then they end up in heaven till eternity. As stupid as it is, it is what they believe in. If you wish to avoid a Holocaust of Israel and the West you must root them out as you did Hitler and his regime. Nobody likes war but sometimes it is the less of two evils if you do it to right people at the right time. Edited October 12, 2025 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
herbie Posted October 12, 2025 Report Posted October 12, 2025 A ceasefire that's held for a day or two means a war is over? Tell that to the Koreans why doncha. A little quick to celebrate the end of a war while prompting for the next one. Hypocritical is about the politest way to describe that. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) Yes as I said there will no no real peace in middle east or the world till Islamic regime exists. Today with the backing of Islamic Republic Hamas is reported to have executed their Palestinian opposition. Ask a citizen of Iran who lives in Iran if I am hypocritical about the fascist Islamic Republic or millions young girls suppressed or families of thousands hanged or tortured or hundreds who were unarmed and shot dead on streets for peaceful protests or millions living in poverty or in prisons. As a socialist, you must not support fascist regimes like this or try to undermine their brutality or oppression. Edited October 14, 2025 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 46 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Yes as I said there will no no real peace in middle east or the world till Islamic regime exists. Today with the backing of Islamic Republic Hamas is reported to have executed their Palestinian opposition. Ask a citizen of Iran who lives in Iran if I am hypocritical about the fascist Islamic Republic or millions young girls suppressed or families of thousands hanged or tortured or hundreds who were unarmed and shot dead on streets for peaceful protests or millions living in poverty or in prisons. As a socialist, you must not support fascist regimes like this or try to undermine their brutality or oppression. Dude...by now everyone knows your hatred for the Iranian leadership. But...why pay them any attention? Why not just boycott them and watch them starve? Eventually the population will revolt. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 Just now, Nationalist said: Dude...by now everyone knows your hatred for the Iranian leadership. But...why pay them any attention? Why not just boycott them and watch them starve? Eventually the population will revolt. Well if you are an expert in Iran politics you would know this will not work as I mentioned before. This regime has been under sanctions of various type for decades now. Ever since they took Americans hostage in 1980. They always cheat. They find other terrorist countries like Russia and China to break the sanctions. For example past few years they have been selling cheap oil to China using ships with other countries' flags. Also it is more the people who are hurt by the sanctions not the regime. The regime allies like the Sepah or military commanders are getting richer under sanctions as they control the black market now so as why they are the main forces opposing any compromise with the West. The nation of Iran has been hurt past many decades being smashed in between the rock and the hard place. In the meantime there has been many uprisings in 2016, 2018, and 2021-2022 to name a few and the regime uses brutal force by ordering its murderous mercenaries to shoot peaceful people on spot and make mass arrest and later torture, rape and murder them in prisons or public hanging and the purpose for all these is to stay in power by terror and mass murder so that people no matter how poor, hungry or desperate or dissatisfied or hateful they are they don't dare to come out and revolve. In many cases after arresting young men and women then they go after their families too accusing them of raising an anti-islamic kid and arrest and torture them too. Terror occurs in Islamic republic prisons and they have made Iran a big prison. They steal, murder and rape and take westerners as hostage and the West too is too scared or shy to face them militarily but if they continue the policy of appeasement, the West will pay a very high price for that. Much higher than they paid for Hitler as these people with ideology of martydom and hate for the West are far more dangerous. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 3 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Well if you are an expert in Iran politics you would know this will not work as I mentioned before. This regime has been under sanctions of various type for decades now. Ever since they took Americans hostage in 1980. They always cheat. They find other terrorist countries like Russia and China to break the sanctions. For example past few years they have been selling cheap oil to China using ships with other countries' flags. Also it is more the people who are hurt by the sanctions not the regime. The regime allies like the Sepah or military commanders are getting richer under sanctions as they control the black market now so as why they are the main forces opposing any compromise with the West. The nation of Iran has been hurt past many decades being smashed in between the rock and the hard place. In the meantime there has been many uprisings in 2016, 2018, and 2021-2022 to name a few and the regime uses brutal force by ordering its murderous mercenaries to shoot peaceful people on spot and make mass arrest and later torture, rape and murder them in prisons or public hanging and the purpose for all these is to stay in power by terror and mass murder so that people no matter how poor, hungry or desperate or dissatisfied or hateful they are they don't dare to come out and revolve. In many cases after arresting young men and women then they go after their families too accusing them of raising an anti-islamic kid and arrest and torture them too. Terror occurs in Islamic republic prisons and they have made Iran a big prison. They steal, murder and rape and take westerners as hostage and the West too is too scared or shy to face them militarily but if they continue the policy of appeasement, the West will pay a very high price for that. Much higher than they paid for Hitler as these people with ideology of martydom and hate for the West are far more dangerous. Then eventually they'll turn on Russia. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 27 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Then eventually they'll turn on Russia. Why they will turn on Russia? They are supplying many drones to Russia so that Putin uses them to kill defenseless Ukrainian civilians and in return Russia help them with her veto in United Nations as well as helping them to break international sanctions. Russia a long time enemy of Iran is their ally and a vital one without which they cannot survive. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Why they will turn on Russia? They are supplying many drones to Russia so that Putin uses them to kill defenseless Ukrainian civilians and in return Russia help them with her veto in United Nations as well as helping them to break international sanctions. Russia a long time enemy of Iran is their ally and a vital one without which they cannot survive. Wrong religion. In the end, everything is about their Gawd. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Wrong religion. In the end, everything is about their Gawd. They only pretend to have a religion to trick people (their dwindling number of supporters) into believing in them and supporting them or killing for them. Most of these islamic leaders in power in Iran are the most corrupt people and the dirtiest liars in the world. They use religion to maintain or advance their power but for existence or power and money they will ally with the Satan himself. Edited October 14, 2025 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 59 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: They only pretend to have a religion to trick people (their dwindling number of supporters) into believing in them and supporting them or killing for them. Most of these islamic leaders in power in Iran are the most corrupt people and the dirtiest liars in the world. They use religion to maintain or advance their power but for existence or power and money they will ally with the Satan himself. Actually...IMO they already have. Long ago. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 On 10/11/2025 at 9:03 PM, herbie said: And why do you want to start another? And WHY is Qatar off the hook exactly ? Does it really only cost ONE plane to be excused for assisting the October 7th attacks ? Americans occupied Afghanistan for almost 20 years but I guess this is different... because they bought Trump a plane. Well, it WAS a really nice plane I guess. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
TreeBeard Posted October 14, 2025 Report Posted October 14, 2025 Did Israel and Hamas sign a peace accord? Seems like this is just a ceasefire, and not likely to last either. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 37 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: And WHY is Qatar off the hook exactly ? Does it really only cost ONE plane to be excused for assisting the October 7th attacks ? Americans occupied Afghanistan for almost 20 years but I guess this is different... because they bought Trump a plane. Well, it WAS a really nice plane I guess. Evidence shows it was the significant financial, material and logistic (training by IRGC) by Islamic Republic which caused the October 7 attack and then followed by Hezbollah entering the war. I don't think Qatar had a significant role to play at least not as much. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 14, 2025 Author Report Posted October 14, 2025 31 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: Did Israel and Hamas sign a peace accord? Seems like this is just a ceasefire, and not likely to last either. As I said there will be no peace in middle east or elsewhere for as long as Islamic Republic exists. You cannot kill an octopus by just cutting a few of its legs. You have to cut off its head. You do not remove cancer from the body by cutting around the cancerous organ. You are not dealing with logical people like Soviets here. The only language they understand is force. Remove this Islamic fascist regime by all available means no matter what the cost or else. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 15, 2025 Author Report Posted October 15, 2025 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Dude...by now everyone knows your hatred for the Iranian leadership. Lol, You sure are great at understatement. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 15, 2025 Author Report Posted October 15, 2025 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Actually...IMO they already have. Long ago. How so? They are servants of Russia supplying cheap oil and drones and missiles to Russia at discount rate and Russia helping them to beat sanctions or avoid them and supply them with S300 and now just signed a deal to deliver them many Sokho 35, best Russia's fighter jets to use them against US and Israel. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 15, 2025 Report Posted October 15, 2025 6 minutes ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: How so? They are servants of Russia supplying cheap oil and drones and missiles to Russia at discount rate and Russia helping them to beat sanctions or avoid them and supply them with S300 and now just signed a deal to deliver them many Sokho 35, best Russia's fighter jets to use them against US and Israel. Simple. I believe Islam is pure evil. Im not a fan of Christianity or Judaism but Islam...is down right evil. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 15, 2025 Author Report Posted October 15, 2025 16 hours ago, Nationalist said: Simple. I believe Islam is pure evil. Im not a fan of Christianity or Judaism but Islam...is down right evil. The subject at hand was Iran regime turning against Russia as you predicted not Islam. I said this will never happened for many reasons and you said it is already happening and I said how so? and suddenly you change Russia to Islam being evil to which many here would agree but what is it to do with Russia? Yes Iranians have abandoned that ideology and every day the isolated regime has to push it down their throats which causes even more hatred. If you meant Iranians are turning against Islam (not Russia) you were stating the obvious. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 16, 2025 Report Posted October 16, 2025 18 hours ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: The subject at hand was Iran regime turning against Russia as you predicted not Islam. I said this will never happened for many reasons and you said it is already happening and I said how so? and suddenly you change Russia to Islam being evil to which many here would agree but what is it to do with Russia? Yes Iranians have abandoned that ideology and every day the isolated regime has to push it down their throats which causes even more hatred. If you meant Iranians are turning against Islam (not Russia) you were stating the obvious. Iran will turn on Russia eventually because if Islam. The Russians are not Islamists. That makes them infidels to be conquered and converted. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted October 16, 2025 Author Report Posted October 16, 2025 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Iran will turn on Russia eventually because if Islam. The Russians are not Islamists. That makes them infidels to be conquered and converted. Will not happen. The regime in Iran is only after its survival. Islam does not matter to them the least. They have already close ties with both Russia and China because without their support they can't continue their miserable existence. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 16, 2025 Report Posted October 16, 2025 1 hour ago, CITIZEN_2015 said: Will not happen. The regime in Iran is only after its survival. Islam does not matter to them the least. They have already close ties with both Russia and China because without their support they can't continue their miserable existence. Then I guess we'll wait and see what happens. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
PIK Posted October 17, 2025 Report Posted October 17, 2025 Iran is the biggest obstacle in the way of true peace. IDF is now hunting hezzy leadership in Lebanon. Trump has made Putin irrelevant in the middle east. There is a chance things can get alot better fir the ME. But as long as we have weak leftwing western govs,as in Canada, Britain and France,that keeps pumping up Hamas, it will make it tougher. And having Carney saying he would arrest Bibi if he came to Canada, makes us look even worse. Quote Toronto, like a roach motel in the middle of a pretty living room.
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