Ms. James Is Indicted

[robosmith]

Just now, Shady said:

Don’t care.  What she went after Trump for was something that is never prosecuted.  What she did was avoid paying taxes.

Nope. Taxes had NOTHING to do with it. And that "crime" is never charged because it's almost impossible to PROVE INTENT, which makes it an illegal "vindictive prosecution."

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You have no idea what you're talking about. There was NO "illegal behavior" involved in charging Trump with FRAUDULENT PROPERTY VALUATIONS. DUH.

The FACT is, there was PLENTY OF EVIDENCE that's what HE DID.

Who was the victim of this fraud and what was taken from them?

 

[Shady]

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Nope. Taxes had NOTHING to do with it. And that "crime" is never charged because it's almost impossible to PROVE INTENT, which makes it an illegal "vindictive prosecution."

She said she wouldn’t rent that home, and then started renting right away.

[robosmith]

Just now, Shady said:

She said she wouldn’t rent that home, and then started renting right away.

Prove it was her INTENT to RENT when she signed the mortgage.

The FACT that crime is never prosecuted STILL makes it ILLEGAL VINDICTIVE PROSECUTION.

[User]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Prove it was her INTENT to RENT when she signed the mortgage.

The FACT that crime is never prosecuted STILL makes it ILLEGAL VINDICTIVE PROSECUTION.

The crime she went after Trump for was novel and had never been done before... 

 

[Shady]

47 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Prove it was her INTENT to RENT when she signed the mortgage.

The FACT that crime is never prosecuted STILL makes it ILLEGAL VINDICTIVE PROSECUTION.

As we’ve already said, she prosecuted Trump over something that is never prosecuted.  What goes around comes around.  Too bad so sad.  I guess she should have thought about that BEFORE HER VINDICTIVE PROSECUTION.

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, Shady said:

As we’ve already said, she prosecuted Trump over something that is never prosecuted.  What goes around comes around.  Too bad so sad.  I guess she should have thought about that BEFORE HER VINDICTIVE PROSECUTION.

Prove that $100s of MILLIONS of FRAUDULENT claimed property valuations are "never prosecuted."

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Prove that $100s of MILLIONS of FRAUDULENT claimed property valuations are "never prosecuted."

well after that assertion please prove that the claims were fraudulent.

When you've done that put the cozy on the teapot it's getting cold.

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, Legato said:

well after that assertion please prove that the claims were fraudulent.

When you've done that put the cozy on the teapot it's getting cold.

I don't need to prove it, IT WAS PROVEN IN COURT, which was why Trump was FOUND LIBEL. Duh

You walked right into that one, so I hope you don't get a black eye OR WORSE a RED ONE BEFITTING your CLOWN MAKEUP.

[Chrissy1979]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

SO you admit you just make up random shit nobody actually said and argue with that. 

Maybe you should stick with the "My mental health is so poor i can't decide if i'm a boy or a girl, which way is up and which is down, what's black and what's white and i live in fear of getting killed at a zerbra crossing excuse  

The funny thing is you frequently accuse other people of making up things you said, which is basically what you do all day as is the case here.

With you every accusation is a confession  

 

Oh look, another lefty who can't argue with what was actually said so he just makes up what people says and argue with that 🙄🙄

What weak minds these people have

Again, if this is the politics you want. It will be hard to cry and play the victim when the Dems are in power again. I guess you're counting on being dead by then, being 90 years old and all. Lol

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Again, if this is the politics you want.

Again, the democrats have already decided this is the politics we're going to get. That decision was made already by dems and their supporters 

The next opportunity to change that will be the next time they get in. They'll be in a position to offer an olive branch and negotiate an end to such things.  At this point it's not about what people want, it's about natural balance. 

So we'll have to see if dems and their supporters have learned their lessons and want to go back to the way things were before they screwed with the status quo. If they do there's room for hope that things will get better. If they don't then they'll probably get buried. 

[Legato]

40 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I don't need to prove it, IT WAS PROVEN IN COURT, which was why Trump was FOUND LIBEL. Duh

You walked right into that one, so I hope you don't get a black eye OR WORSE a RED ONE BEFITTING your CLOWN MAKEUP.

The court just complied with the wishes of a bitter and twisted Letitia James alongside a bent judge, on a singularly made up charge.

So....once again put on your big boy pants and prove the assertions you made.

No rush, after your cuppa will be OK.

 

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

The court just complied with the wishes of a bitter and twisted Letitia James alongside a bent judge, on a singularly made up charge.

Interesting "theory." Thanks for proving you're a deranged IGNORAMUS about US LAW.

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

So....once again put on your big boy pants and prove the assertions you made.

Already PROVEN whether you understand that or not.

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

No rush, after your cuppa will be OK.

You mean culpa? LMAO

Dream on.

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, Shady said:

Once again.  A grand jury found that there was enough evidence to indict.  Yes, it’s a low level real estate crime.  But that’s exactly what Democrats went after Trump over.  So I have no sympathy.  No body is above the law right?

So you're good with petty political retribution from a POTUS...your choice.  It doesn't sound like either case has much to them and won't stand up.  It's an embarrassment...

[Shady]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Prove that $100s of MILLIONS of FRAUDULENT claimed property valuations are "never prosecuted."

Prove that it does.

13 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So you're good with petty political retribution from a POTUS...your choice.  It doesn't sound like either case has much to them and won't stand up.  It's an embarrassment...

I’m fine with it, just like you were fine with a couple of years ago.

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, Shady said:

Prove that it does.

So you CANNOT PROVE YOUR CLAIM. Not surprised at all.

At least you're not disputing that the cases are APPLES and ORANGEMAN 

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, Shady said:

Prove that it does.

I’m fine with it, just like you were fine with a couple of years ago.

Prove that what does?  If you mean an embarrassment that's objectively obvious.  

You have a point there...  There were facts of guilt and charges against the orange one though. Sounds like weak charges here... and just another day in the life of a wannabe dictator.  

[Shady]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

So you CANNOT PROVE YOUR CLAIM. Not surprised at all.

At least you're not disputing that the cases are APPLES and ORANGEMAN 

You can’t prove your claim.  Regardless, many legal experts have pointed out that it’s something that rarely gets prosecuted.

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Prove that what does?  If you mean an embarrassment that's objectively obvious.  

You have a point there...  There were facts of guilt and charges against the orange one though. Sounds like weak charges here... and just another day in the life of a wannabe dictator.  

You didn’t mind the weak charges against Trump.  The appeals court had to step in and slap down Letitia and her weaponized justice system.

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

You keep referring to James as a he.

SHE needs to be embarrased more. SHE also needs to be thrown in the slammer. 

What... I'm aware she's a woman.  

A judge and then an appeals court found him liable. That's not her fault.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Shady said:

You can’t prove your claim.  Regardless, many legal experts have pointed out that it’s something that rarely gets prosecuted.

In reality, I CAN:

The mortgage fraud case against Letitia James is ‘bupkis’, experts say

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Even before a grand jury handed down the indictment on Thursday, there was already deep skepticism about possible charges. Career prosecutors in the US attorney’s office for the eastern district of Virginia had looked at accusations James committed mortgage fraud and concluded there was no probable cause to charge the case. Lindsey Halligan, Trump’s handpicked interim US attorney, nonetheless went ahead and presented the case to the grand jury. Her decision to do so reportedly caught top justice department officials off-guard.

 

The indictment handed down on Thursday charges James with bank fraud and making a false statement when she secured a mortgage to buy a second home in Norfolk, Virginia, in 2020. As part of the purchase, James signed a rider that indicated she would use it as her second home and prohibited her from renting it out, according to the indictment. James proceeded to then rent out the home, prosecutors allege. By lying on the mortgage statement, prosecutors say, James secured a better mortgage rate and a seller credit that saved her about $18,933 over the life of the loan.

“In this case, prosecutors will be required to show that at the moment James signed the mortgage paperwork, she was aware of the provision regarding a secondary home, that she intended to use it for some different purpose, and that she intended to obtain a financial benefit as a result of her deceit,” said Barbara McQuade, a former US attorney for the eastern district of Michigan. “That can be very difficult for a prosecutor to do because we cannot read other people’s minds. Anyone who has ever participated in a mortgage closing is familiar with the daunting pile of papers they put in front of you.”

The second-home rider James signed does not prohibit renting the home outright, Adam Levitin, a law professor at Georgetown University, wrote in a blogpost. Instead, the rider prevents the owner from giving control over rental decisions to someone else. The agreement also only imposes the restriction starting one year after the agreement. The indictment made public on Thursday does not say when James rented the home or for how long.

The rider also includes an exemption for “extenuating circumstances”, Levitin noted, pointing out that the mortgage was obtained in August 2020 during the Covid-19 pandemic.

“I’m unaware of the federal government having previously charged anyone for fraud based on renting out a second home,” Levitin wrote in the post on Credit Slips. “It’s clear why the career prosecutors in the Eastern District of Virginia refused to bring a case: James doesn’t appear to have made any misrepresentation in her mortgage because the mortgage does not directly prohibit rentals.”

So the worst that can happen is James having to reimburse the bank $19,000 plus interest.

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, Deluge said:

1. SHE is a petulant narcissist, and I totally agree. That b*tch projected on Donald Trump and thought she could get away with it. lol

2. It's best not to care what the democrat party says, as they've been overrun by demon cultists. It will be up to the voters to decide how much more of their bullshit they will put up with. 

1. SHE brought a case against him that he was found liable for... by the original judge and then an appeals court.  SHE got away with it.  He's just going to further embarrassed. 

2. I've never trusted demon cultists, but will be very interesting to see what voters think. 

[LinkSoul60]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

You didn’t mind the weak charges against Trump.  The appeals court had to step in and slap down Letitia and her weaponized justice system.

A multi-billion dollar company overstating it's assets to secure more favourable loans is a bit different than someone benefitting $18,933 IF in fact they're even guilty. 

The appeals court just recinded the fine but still said he was liable. He's s a shyster.  

Edited October 12, 2025 by LinkSoul60

[Shady]

27 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

A multi-billion dollar company overstating it's assets to secure more favourable loans is a bit different than someone benefitting $18,933 IF in fact they're even guilty. 

The appeals court just reminded the fine but still said he was liable. He's s a shyster.  

Nope.  Bank’s evaluate the value of asserts all the time.  That’s how they give out loans, mortgages etc.  Banks don’t rely on the word of lenders to determine loans.  Regardless, loans were all paid back, on time/. There was no victim.  However, she defrauded the government of taxes.  Tax fraud is a serious crime.

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

In reality, I CAN:

The mortgage fraud case against Letitia James is ‘bupkis’, experts say

So the worst that can happen is James having to reimburse the bank $19,000 plus interest.

Cool.  How much money did Trump have to reimburse the bank?  Oh right, zero dollars.  What about the taxes she evaded?  Is she going to have to pay back taxes?

[LinkSoul60]

21 minutes ago, Shady said:

Nope.  Bank’s evaluate the value of asserts all the time.  That’s how they give out loans, mortgages etc.  Banks don’t rely on the word of lenders to determine loans.  Regardless, loans were all paid back, on time/. There was no victim.  However, she defrauded the government of taxes.  Tax fraud is a serious crime.

Then I guess two courts of law got it wrong...

The charges have nothing to do with the government...she's charged with one count of bank fraud and one count of making false statements to a financial institution. He's a petty man that embarrasses the country.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So you're good with petty political retribution from a POTUS...your choice.  It doesn't sound like either case has much to them and won't stand up.  It's an embarrassment...

You were good with the petty political attacks against an opponent that started it.  Now its "boo hoo hooo how could it have come to this just because we were the ones who kicked it off?"

What a hypocrite.