Hodad Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: That is amazing. Not really. Pretty standard stop along the road to fascism. They always try to purge the military of people loyal to the country rather than to the aspiring dictator. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: Not really. Pretty standard stop along the road to fascism. They always try to purge the military of people loyal to the country rather than to the aspiring dictator. They are purging the fat guys that aren't war fighters. It's a simple concept. If you own a business and you want your employees to come in early, you get there 30 minutes before them. If you want them to stay late, you stay 30 minutes longer than them. If you want them to dress nice, you wear a smart suite with a starched shirt. If you want your front line fighters to be fit, tough and motivated you have to be stronger, faster and better than them. A fat ass sitting behind a desk drinking coffee and eating doughnuts doesn't inspire greatness. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 14 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: They are purging the fat guys that aren't war fighters. It's a simple concept. If you own a business and you want your employees to come in early, you get there 30 minutes before them. If you want them to stay late, you stay 30 minutes longer than them. If you want them to dress nice, you wear a smart suite with a starched shirt. If you want your front line fighters to be fit, tough and motivated you have to be stronger, faster and better than them. A fat ass sitting behind a desk drinking coffee and eating doughnuts doesn't inspire greatness. Will the current Commander-in-Chief be resigning then? People usually hit "general" in their late 40s. Nobody anywhere, ever, expects them to be stronger, faster and better than the 18 year olds serving under them. That's asinine. They are there for their brains, not their bodies. I think we all know what this is about. It's just another phase of political purging. You've just chosen not to care about the endless parade of wildly transgressive behavior because "the team" is more important than the country. Those of you who never actually believed in America as an idea really don't have anything to lose. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 (edited) 31 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: They are purging the fat guys And then who comes waddling out... the man of the hour. 31 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: If you want your front line fighters to be fit, tough and motivated you have to be stronger, faster and better than them. A fat ass sitting behind a desk drinking coffee and eating doughnuts doesn't inspire greatness. An ex-news guy telling seasoned military leaders how to win.... really, that's funny if it wasn't so off-side They both play politics with people who are supposed to be apolitical in their jobs... that wasn't very bright. All in all another epic embarrassment for the wannabe dictator. Edited October 1, 2025 by LinkSoul60 1 Quote
User Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 25 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: An ex-news guy It is simply amazing how dishonest you people will be. 1 Quote
User Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 31 minutes ago, Hodad said: Will the current Commander-in-Chief be resigning then? Why would he? He is not in the military. Do you think members of the military should be fat because the Commander-in-Chief is? Quote
robosmith Posted October 1, 2025 Author Report Posted October 1, 2025 6 hours ago, paxamericana said: Women should not be participating in war period. Their super power trumps any male prowess, the power to bear new life. YOUR OPINION means NOTHING to women who want to serve. Duh Pretty sure women can fly drones just as well as men, since all it takes is PRACTICE. Quote
robosmith Posted October 1, 2025 Author Report Posted October 1, 2025 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: And then who comes waddling out... the man of the hour. An ex-news guy telling seasoned military leaders how to win.... really, that's funny if it wasn't so off-side They both play politics with people who are supposed to be apolitical in their jobs... that wasn't very bright. All in all another epic embarrassment for the wannabe dictator. Just last night I was telling a discouraged friend that Trump doesn't have the COMPETENCE to pull off the dictator schtick, and right on cue, he demonstrates that with his incoherent speech in front of hundreds of generals. Quote
robosmith Posted October 1, 2025 Author Report Posted October 1, 2025 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Will the current Commander-in-Chief be resigning then? People usually hit "general" in their late 40s. Nobody anywhere, ever, expects them to be stronger, faster and better than the 18 year olds serving under them. That's asinine. They are there for their brains, not their bodies. I think we all know what this is about. It's just another phase of political purging. You've just chosen not to care about the endless parade of wildly transgressive behavior because "the team" is more important than the country. Those of you who never actually believed in America as an idea really don't have anything to lose. That's just Hegseth pretending is ONLY competence (youth) is key to his military leadership role, and missing the mark by a MILE by demonstrating his lack of leadership skills. 1 Quote
Venandi Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 7 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: An ex-news guy telling seasoned military leaders how to win... They were fresh out of ex-drama teachers... 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 (edited) For the sissy-boys who have been venting their pure hatred here... Peter Brian Hegseth served 2 deployments in the military. One in Iraq and one in Afghanistan. He attained the rank of Major. He has 2 degrees. One from Princeton and one from Harvard. Pete Hegseth is well qualified and has more guts and honor than any of you Libbie trash. Have a warm and fuzzy day. Edited October 1, 2025 by Nationalist 1 2 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 8 hours ago, Hodad said: Will the current Commander-in-Chief be resigning then? People usually hit "general" in their late 40s. Nobody anywhere, ever, expects them to be stronger, faster and better than the 18 year olds serving under them. That's asinine. They are there for their brains, not their bodies. I think we all know what this is about. It's just another phase of political purging. You've just chosen not to care about the endless parade of wildly transgressive behavior because "the team" is more important than the country. Those of you who never actually believed in America as an idea really don't have anything to lose. Nah. You just don't want a military that's based on merit. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 9 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Nah. You just don't want a military that's based on merit. Got news for you, being white and male are not actually meritorious accomplishments. Yet, indeed, Hegseth moved quickly to fire women and people of color and replace them with objectively less qualified white men. Because he himself is objectively and unquestionably unqualified for his position and has done nothing to merit the appointment aside from being white, male--and slobbering all over Trump on Fox news. But if you're into that--or similarly unfit for a competitive environment--I'm sure it sounds great. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 9 minutes ago, Hodad said: Got news for you, being white and male are not actually meritorious accomplishments. Neither is trans, female or black. But Hegseth isn't using any of those things as merit. He is using fotness standards that apply uniformly. You are mad about that, aren't you? Now that the only thing that matters is ability, you think that is discriminatory? 11 minutes ago, Hodad said: Yet, indeed, Hegseth moved quickly to fire women and people of color and replace them with objectively less qualified white men. That is an absolute bald face lie. 12 minutes ago, Hodad said: Because he himself is objectively and unquestionably unqualified for his position and has done nothing to merit the appointment aside from being white, male--and slobbering all over Trump on Fox news. The people I know that are either former military or currently in the guard love what he is doing. They are the ones telling me that they have far too many officers. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 27 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Neither is trans, female or black. But Hegseth isn't using any of those things as merit. He is using fotness standards that apply uniformly. You are mad about that, aren't you? Now that the only thing that matters is ability, you think that is discriminatory? That is an absolute bald face lie. The people I know that are either former military or currently in the guard love what he is doing. They are the ones telling me that they have far too many officers. No, it's not a lie. It's fact. For example, he and Trump moved very quickly to replace the eminently qualified Black Chairman of the Joint Chiefs--a 4-star general- with (checks the record) a white, male, retired 3-star who literally didn't have the legally required pre-requisite qualifications for the job and required a presidential waiver. At the same time he was firing well-qualified women from top jobs and replacing them with white men. And none of it for performance reasons. None of it based on metrics. None of it based on merit. By Hegseth's own admission "more art than science." Finally, white men will no longer be oppressed in the military!🙄 He's actively racist and openly and overtly sexist. I'm sure that's going to be super inspiring leadership for the half of the military that isn't white and male. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Just last night I was telling a discouraged friend that Trump doesn't have the COMPETENCE to pull off the dictator schtick, and right on cue, he demonstrates that with his incoherent speech in front of hundreds of generals. In my lifetime, there has never been a president even remotely as incompetent as this guy. His lack of morals, decency and intellect are truly astonishing. Stupid doesn't even come close to describing him accurately. His speech was another embarrassment for the country, but that's become commonplace so water off a ducks back. He calls his incoherent rambling 'the weave'. Phycologists call it dementia. 1 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: In my lifetime, there has never been a president even remotely as incompetent as this guy. His lack of morals, decency and intellect are truly astonishing. Stupid doesn't even come close to describing him accurately. His speech was another embarrassment for the country, but that's become commonplace so water off a ducks back. He calls his incoherent rambling 'the weave'. Phycologists call it dementia. I agree. Brandon was incompetent and the worst POTUS ever. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 2 hours ago, Venandi said: They were fresh out of ex-drama teachers... And unfortunately had to settle for a depraved ex-reality TV star... Quote
cannuck Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 (edited) 11 hours ago, herbie said: You genuinely ruin my fun when you are 100% right (or should I say "correct"?). Where we do disagree is it is not about the rather flawed individuals delivering, but the message itself. I watched first hand, up close and personal when the Big Turd's social engineering was first inflicted on the Canadian Army and every francophone junior NCO on our base was offered an easy trip to a commissioned rank - strictly based on language - and precious few were in any way appropriate candidates for leadership and command. This tangent started with statements about women operating drones. I can remember decades ago when my US business partner's 4 boys (all digital ultra-geek gamers, and 3 today top level IT pros). Our 2 daughters (both pianists and one today a arthroscopic surgery wiz) absolutely humiliated the boys in video games due to incredible hand-eye coordination and skills. But: there is far more to being a soldier than just performing one task. Flying a drone from a desk overseas might be safe, but if you are operating from a forward position you could be THE highest value target on any given battlefield. When the other guys (and gals) show up at the door do you want the person you now must depend upon for your life to be there because some inclusive BS reason or because they have met and succeeded being at the highest level of physical and mental discipline needed to survive in face-to-face combat? I will also respectfully suggest that the answer you will give sitting safely behind you computer screen at home will be very different from the one you would give when the rattle of AKs starts and the rounds are dropping those beside you in a bath of blood and guts. Edited October 1, 2025 by cannuck Quote
Nationalist Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 36 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: And unfortunately had to settle for a depraved ex-reality TV star... Who's policies are making the nation he's president of, better after 4 years of Brandon. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 14 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: You're hopelessly lost in Magaland... Can't stick to the subject OK, LinkMissing60, give me "the" subject and we'll get granular. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 21 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Who's policies are making the nation he's president of, better after 4 years of Brandon. That's easy.... Biden, senility and all. Consider since Trump's first 9 months - perpetuating political divisiveness for his benefit, alienating decades long allies, ignoring court orders around deportation, using the military domestically to satisfy his ego, inflation ticking upwards, unemployment ticking upwards, -800,000+ job losses, job losses in manufacturing, wholesale trade and construction, and the daily embarrassment he brings onto the country. Otherwise, he's awesome.... 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 31 minutes ago, Deluge said: OK, LinkMissing60, give me "the" subject and we'll get granular. Deluginal... why do I need to remind you of the subject you brought up then avoided? Quote
Nationalist Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 18 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: That's easy.... Biden, senility and all. Consider since Trump's first 9 months - perpetuating political divisiveness for his benefit, alienating decades long allies, ignoring court orders around deportation, using the military domestically to satisfy his ego, inflation ticking upwards, unemployment ticking upwards, -800,000+ job losses, job losses in manufacturing, wholesale trade and construction, and the daily embarrassment he brings onto the country. Otherwise, he's awesome.... Cry me a river. Brandon was the worst POTUS in history.! Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted October 1, 2025 Report Posted October 1, 2025 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Cry me a river. Brandon was the worst POTUS in history.! Nope, your boy has that title from the first time around and this time, he will without a doubt cement that well deserved embarrassment in perpetuity. 1 Quote
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