CdnFox Posted September 21, 2025 Report Posted September 21, 2025 Calgary man who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl gets reduced sentence because he's Indigenous How does this help anything? Giving him additional time off is basically saying "it's less of a crime to rape children if you're indigenous', it won't stop the guy from assaulting children when he gets out, and nobody is going to think that the kid and the family got proper justice so it undermines faith in our system. This is just getting out of hand. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Chrissy1979 Posted September 21, 2025 Report Posted September 21, 2025 If he were president he wouldn’t have to go to prison at all. 1 Quote
BeaverFever Posted September 22, 2025 Report Posted September 22, 2025 The headline is sensational. He didn’t have time off simply “for being indigenous”. “The offender’s life has been directly influenced by many of the Gladue factors,” Williams said. “He has existed for extended periods of time in his life in a state of severe poverty or homelessness, he is under educated, he has struggled with severe addiction issues and as a child was taken from his family and placed in a foster care system where he was sexually abused and separated from his siblings. The racism he faced in his own family and in the outside world, no doubt impacted his views as to how others should be treated.” According to the decision, RJM “lives his life in a state of fight versus flight, it is a direct reflection of how he has been forced to live since a very young age.” If he had been your typical middle class Canadian who had grown up in a healthy home environment he wouldn’t have had time reduced simply because of his indigenous ancestry. Quote
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2025 Author Report Posted September 22, 2025 6 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: If he were president he wouldn’t have to go to prison at all. If he did his daddy could have pardoned him Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted September 22, 2025 Author Report Posted September 22, 2025 35 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: The headline is sensational. He didn’t have time off simply “for being indigenous”. “The offender’s life has been directly influenced by many of the Gladue factors,” Williams said. “He has existed for extended periods of time in his life in a state of severe poverty or homelessness, he is under educated, he has struggled with severe addiction issues and as a child was taken from his family and placed in a foster care system where he was sexually abused and separated from his siblings. The racism he faced in his own family and in the outside world, no doubt impacted his views as to how others should be treated.” According to the decision, RJM “lives his life in a state of fight versus flight, it is a direct reflection of how he has been forced to live since a very young age.” If he had been your typical middle class Canadian who had grown up in a healthy home environment he wouldn’t have had time reduced simply because of his indigenous ancestry. If a white kid has lived a similar life, and there are many many who have, he got the full term So yes, This kid got a reduced sentence simply because of his skin color. Now at some point in the not too distant future something will come up while you're going to try and claim it's racist. Probably something to do with the the parties in the states or something. I'm going to point out that you actively support racism as we can see from your comments above and your support of the system that essentially gives freebies for no better reason than race. And you are going to scream to the High Heavens that it's completely different when it's somebody that isn't white. Just pointing it out so that when you're sitting in other bafflement later and I'm pointing it out again you'll remember what was said to you. And what you did Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Political Smash Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 On 9/21/2025 at 3:14 PM, CdnFox said: Calgary man who sexually assaulted a 12-year-old girl gets reduced sentence because he's Indigenous How does this help anything? Giving him additional time off is basically saying "it's less of a crime to rape children if you're indigenous', it won't stop the guy from assaulting children when he gets out, and nobody is going to think that the kid and the family got proper justice so it undermines faith in our system. This is just getting out of hand. I just read that, what a sick individual ... and this "Gladue factors" rhetoric (first time I ever heard of that term), the guy was 25 and they act like they put him through residential schools and deserves leniency for that. If someone was put through residential schools, such is not excuse to pardon their sick behavior for doing such. Everyone should be treated equally for the offenses they commit no matter their racial back ground given factors of the circumstance. If someone put a gun to his head and told him to do it no matter his racial variation then perhaps is reason for leniency but this is ridiculous and infuriating. What a heart breaking read that was. Quote
Political Smash Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 On 9/21/2025 at 11:42 PM, BeaverFever said: The headline is sensational. He didn’t have time off simply “for being indigenous”. “The offender’s life has been directly influenced by many of the Gladue factors,” Williams said. “He has existed for extended periods of time in his life in a state of severe poverty or homelessness, he is under educated, he has struggled with severe addiction issues and as a child was taken from his family and placed in a foster care system where he was sexually abused and separated from his siblings. The racism he faced in his own family and in the outside world, no doubt impacted his views as to how others should be treated.” According to the decision, RJM “lives his life in a state of fight versus flight, it is a direct reflection of how he has been forced to live since a very young age.” If he had been your typical middle class Canadian who had grown up in a healthy home environment he wouldn’t have had time reduced simply because of his indigenous ancestry. He lived in poverty because his ancestors chose to not have anything to do with governing and wanted land so they could chief themselves so they lived on their reserves in poverty instead of working with everyone else in a democratic society of which some left the reserves and worked among common citizens and even prospered. This is a copout. Bleeding heart for the offender eh because of his ancestors choices affecting the decision. And how do you know he wouldn't have time reduced if he grew up a middle class Canadian in a healthy home environment, the reason for the reduction is what they call the "Gladue factor" which specifically caters to what they call indigenous. That is special treatment. He was 25, not like he was put through residential schools of which that shouldn't be an excuse for a reduction in sentencing for such a disgusting crime anyway. I use to fight for mandatory education of governing ways kindergarten throughout high school to end cycles of abuse so those who were abused do not grow up to abuse other in the precise same way, but now since lies have been forced through legislation it wouldn't help until lies are removed from legislation. It also states that the gluade factor stems from colonialism of which there was no colonialism in North, Central or South America because colonialism technically is taking over another country of which there was no country when colonists arrived to North America. If such factors apply to everyone then it is acceptable (I'm certainly not saying that this crime itself was acceptable in any way shape or form), but that it only applies to a racial variation then such is discriminating against citizens of other racial variations thus is absurd especially when liberals are attempting to continue to rob Canadians of our culture as we speak. 1 Quote
Political Smash Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 On 9/22/2025 at 12:20 AM, CdnFox said: If a white kid has lived a similar life, and there are many many who have, he got the full term So yes, This kid got a reduced sentence simply because of his skin color. Now at some point in the not too distant future something will come up while you're going to try and claim it's racist. Probably something to do with the the parties in the states or something. I'm going to point out that you actively support racism as we can see from your comments above and your support of the system that essentially gives freebies for no better reason than race. And you are going to scream to the High Heavens that it's completely different when it's somebody that isn't white. Just pointing it out so that when you're sitting in other bafflement later and I'm pointing it out again you'll remember what was said to you. And what you did So you tackled that one eh. So heartbreaking, the poor girl. I do sympathize that he was abused as I do for anyone of any racial variation but the cycles of abuse continue and it appears to be the excuse because it happened to them. Our governments have evaded what need be done to end the cycles as I shared how to do it when I started on this path 25 years ago and instead they made things worse by forcing lies through legislation. Quote
CITIZEN_2015 Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 (edited) On 9/21/2025 at 11:42 PM, BeaverFever said: The headline is sensational. He didn’t have time off simply “for being indigenous”. “The offender’s life has been directly influenced by many of the Gladue factors,” Williams said. “He has existed for extended periods of time in his life in a state of severe poverty or homelessness, he is under educated, he has struggled with severe addiction issues and as a child was taken from his family and placed in a foster care system where he was sexually abused and separated from his siblings. The racism he faced in his own family and in the outside world, no doubt impacted his views as to how others should be treated.” According to the decision, RJM “lives his life in a state of fight versus flight, it is a direct reflection of how he has been forced to live since a very young age.” If he had been your typical middle class Canadian who had grown up in a healthy home environment he wouldn’t have had time reduced simply because of his indigenous ancestry. So poor people have a free hand to commit worst crimes. Crimes against children is not excusable. So he had a hard life. This was not the fault of his victim. He is or has become a dog with rabies and must be treated as one and this justice system is too lenient and murderers and rapists get away easy and re-commit. Death penalty for violent repeat offenders against women and children. No excuses no exceptions. Edited September 29, 2025 by CITIZEN_2015 Quote
I am Groot Posted September 29, 2025 Report Posted September 29, 2025 (edited) There has to come a time in every society, and I think we've about reached it, where compassion for the history that led to the creation of the individual who now exists has to give way to compassion for his victims and protection of society. We have seen the courts show compassion repeatedly towards sexual and violent offenders, which has led directly to unspeakable violence against innocent people. It's not even clear whether this compassion is helping the criminals that the Liberal party courts extend to them. Perhaps a series of easy slaps on the wrist simply solidifies an offender's belief that the criminal lifestyle is an acceptable one for them. It certainly seems to function that way with their harm reduction strategies towards the illegal use of narcotics. But then, one of the problems with the Liberal party over the past decade is a lack of interest in the results of their policies vs how they can make them seem noble and virtuous before their tame media. Edited September 29, 2025 by I am Groot 2 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2025 Report Posted October 4, 2025 Meanwhile I posted another thread about a Republican megachurch pastor in Texas who repeatedly molested a girl for years starting at age 12 and only got 6 months in county jail…where is the right wing outrage there, hmmm? Quote
CdnFox Posted October 4, 2025 Author Report Posted October 4, 2025 27 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Meanwhile I posted another thread about a Republican megachurch pastor in Texas who repeatedly molested a girl for years starting at age 12 and only got 6 months in county jail…where is the right wing outrage there, hmmm? So you've posted no story about this, nor even a link to it, you're talking about it under federal politics in Canada, and we're all supposed to know about this event? So basically you realized you were horribly wrong and rather than deal with it like an adult you went scouring the internet for something bad somewhere else that nobody knows about to use as 'whataboutism' to pretend that people have no right to be pissed about this. That is pretty scummy behavior kid. So you're saying you support this guy getting off from raping this kid? Is that your argument? What the fcuk dude? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted October 4, 2025 Report Posted October 4, 2025 Just now, CdnFox said: So you've posted no story about this, nor even a link to it, you're talking about it under federal politics in Canada, and we're all supposed to know about this event? So basically you realized you were horribly wrong and rather than deal with it like an adult you went scouring the internet for something bad somewhere else that nobody knows about to use as 'whataboutism' to pretend that people have no right to be pissed about this. That is pretty scummy behavior kid. So you're saying you support this guy getting off from raping this kid? Is that your argument? What the fcuk dude? No, dummy. TODAY the story about Trump’s pedo pastor buddy was in the news so I posted it there. And the muted response from the righties there reminded me of all the supposed outrage they have here and their hypocrisy so I called it out. You are active on the USA topic so surely you have seen the thread I am talking about. What was I “horribly wrong” about here, I just poured out what was mentioned in the OP article. Are you bullshitting again? Quote
CdnFox Posted October 4, 2025 Author Report Posted October 4, 2025 1 minute ago, BeaverFever said: No, dummy. YES freak. Quote TODAY the story about Trump’s pedo pastor buddy was in the news so I posted it there. And the muted response from the righties there reminded me of all the supposed outrage they have here and their hypocrisy so I called it out. You are active on the USA topic so surely you have seen the thread I am talking about. You posted an anti trump post that had nothing to do with his jail time but rather just that trump must be a bad person because some guy who knows him is a criminal. I doubt most people even looked at it. I didn't and had no idea in the slighest what the hell you were talking about here. So that's 100 percent on you and it's bullshit to suggest that just because nobody wants to read your trump derrangement syndrome post that some fact buried in it is relevant. And you STILL seem to be approving of THIS case. You can't even seem to say it's wrong. Quote What was I “horribly wrong” about here, I just poured out what was mentioned in the OP article. You're horribly wrong that nobody cared about it which is what you REALLY said. Nobody even knew about it because they didn't bother with your hate post based on the title. That's not the same thing. Again - whataboutism. You think that someone who may have known trump did something bad therefore it's ok that this guy gets a reduced sentence because he's native? A 12 year old girl got sexually assaulted and you're standing up for this guy? what the EFF is wrong with you? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
blackbird Posted October 4, 2025 Report Posted October 4, 2025 9 hours ago, BeaverFever said: Meanwhile I posted another thread about a Republican megachurch pastor in Texas who repeatedly molested a girl for years starting at age 12 and only got 6 months in county jail…where is the right wing outrage there, hmmm? That is not our Canadian justice system. We are talking about the perverted justice system in Canada that lets criminals off because they are FN in CANADA. dahh Quote
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