Even after the murder of Cory Comparatore and Charlie Kirk, left wingers still try to play victim, accuse their opponents of stifling "free speech"

[robosmith]

12 hours ago, Nationalist said:

So...no I didn't...so you post irrelevant chickenshit.

It's a joke dipshit. Which you would understand if you were a US citizen instead of a Canuck completely IGNORANT of US culture.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Leftists: for your edification...

• Bothsidesism: Bothsidesism, also known as false balance, is a media bias where journalists present opposing viewpoints as equally valid, even when the evidence strongly supports one side. This can mislead the public by creating a false perception of controversy on issues that are largely settled 

•  

  False Equivalency: A false equivalence or false equivalency is an informal fallacy in which an equivalence is drawn between two subjects based on flawed, faulty, or false reasoning. This fallacy is categorized as a fallacy of inconsistency. Colloquially, a false equivalence is often called "comparing apples and oranges."

FYI, just because there was a single conservative riot doesn't mean that conservatives are as bad as leftists, who had thousands of riots in the past ten years. Especially when the conservative riot was totally unsupported by 99% of conservatives while the leftist rioters had universal, blind support from their cult.

 

Almost All  the Republicans who railed against Jan 6th on Jan 7th, have completely reversed course as soon as they saw NO ONE PAYING a POLITICAL PRICE for their OBSEQUIOUSNESS.

[gatomontes99]

22 minutes ago, User said:

Of course. The FCC guy saying what he did muddied the waters, but the folks on here can't get past their TDS to even consider the possibility that Kimmel was already a shitting late-night host on his way out and that maybe, just maybe, there was an organic outrage over his comments from people that was already in the works before the FCC guy said anything. 

 

All the late night shows are falling off the cliff. They replaced comedy with hate filled diatribes. Half the country was tired of being called fascist, rascist, stupid, etc while using half truths to outright lies as the basis for the host's conclusions. 

[Politics1990]

On 9/18/2025 at 5:24 PM, Michael Hardner said:

Please.

 

If they were really conservatives they would place some value on freedom.

 

I have many posters here on mute, have any self-described conservatives spoken against this?

well your type of conservative no longer exists in any way down in usa that has a chance at winning anyway lol.. otoole and carney in canada  maybe you best bets of  last 10 years in canada though

Edited September 20, 2025 by Politics1990

[West]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

It's a joke dipshit. Which you would understand if you were a US citizen instead of a Canuck completely IGNORANT of US culture.

Here is a leftist like yourself telling you murdering and celebrating death isnt something you do in your country. 

 

[CdnFox]

39 minutes ago, West said:

Here is a leftist like yourself telling you murdering and celebrating death isnt something you do in your country. 

 

I hate that i find myself agreeing with him so often. Not always for sure, but for a leftie he does have his head screwed on straighter than most

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, West said:

Here is a leftist like yourself telling you murdering and celebrating death isnt something you do in your country. 

 

You OBVIOUSLY are UNFAMLIAR with the US death rate due to easy availability of firearms HERE.

You know, the death rate that Kirk said was worth the easy availability of firearms here.

Of course I don't expect you to understand that connection.

I'll bet Kirk's family is wishing Robinson wasn't able to easily get that sniper rifle like a LOT OF US DO, to which Kirk said he should have access.

IOW, Maher is a fool to not understand when you combine easily available firearms with people saying very offensive things, people are going to get angry and fly off the handle. Of course, Maher wants to tamp that down as much as possible because he's one of those who says offensive things to strangers, even if they're not as extreme as Kirk's.

Shouldn't happen, BUT IT DOES and no one has been able to stop it because they're unwilling to screen gun buyers.

Like when Trump signed an executive order making it EASIER for mentally ill people to get guns.

Meanwhile mass shootings declined dramatically when AR style weapons were banned by Democrats for 10 years.

But Bush Republicans let that law LAPSE.

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns

NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › president...

 

Aug 6, 2019 — President Trump has been blaming mental illness for the massacres in El Paso and Dayton, but back in 2017 he quietly signed a bill that ...

 

Edited September 20, 2025 by robosmith

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You OBVIOUSLY are UNFAMLIAR with the US death rate due to easy availability of firearms HERE.

You know, the death rate that Kirk said was worth the easy availability of firearms here.

Of course I don't expect you to understand that connection.

I'll bet Kirk's family is wishing Robinson wasn't able to easily get that sniper rifle like a LOT OF US DO, to which Kirk said he should have access.

IOW, Maher is a fool to not understand when you combine easily available firearms with people saying very offensive things, people are going to get angry and fly off the handle. Of course, Maher wants to tamp that down as much as possible because he's one of those who says offensive things to strangers, even if they're not as extreme as Kirk's.

Shouldn't happen, BUT IT DOES and no one has been able to stop it because they're unwilling to screen gun buyers.

Like when Trump signed an executive order making it EASIER for mentally ill people to get guns.

Meanwhile mass shootings declined dramatically when AR style weapons were banned by Democrats for 10 years.

But Bush Republicans let that law LAPSE.

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns

NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › president...

 

Aug 6, 2019 — President Trump has been blaming mental illness for the massacres in El Paso and Dayton, but back in 2017 he quietly signed a bill that ...

 

I'm familiar with the fact that all of that is a lie.

I'm familiar with the fact that you're lying about work Kirk said as well

I'm also familiar with the fact that Biden was president for 4 years after trump, so if trump passed a law that Biden disagreed with why didn't Biden change it? Why is Biden providing easy access to guns to the mentally ill? Unless you're kind of lying

[West]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

You OBVIOUSLY are UNFAMLIAR with the US death rate due to easy availability of firearms HERE.

You know, the death rate that Kirk said was worth the easy availability of firearms here.

Of course I don't expect you to understand that connection.

I'll bet Kirk's family is wishing Robinson wasn't able to easily get that sniper rifle like a LOT OF US DO, to which Kirk said he should have access.

IOW, Maher is a fool to not understand when you combine easily available firearms with people saying very offensive things, people are going to get angry and fly off the handle. Of course, Maher wants to tamp that down as much as possible because he's one of those who says offensive things to strangers, even if they're not as extreme as Kirk's.

Shouldn't happen, BUT IT DOES and no one has been able to stop it because they're unwilling to screen gun buyers.

Like when Trump signed an executive order making it EASIER for mentally ill people to get guns.

Meanwhile mass shootings declined dramatically when AR style weapons were banned by Democrats for 10 years.

But Bush Republicans let that law LAPSE.

Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to get guns

NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com › news › us-news › president...

 

Aug 6, 2019 — President Trump has been blaming mental illness for the massacres in El Paso and Dayton, but back in 2017 he quietly signed a bill that ...

 

And when Trump brings in the national guard to clean up democrat hell hole from violent gang crime you call him names. Sad

[Chrissy1979]

On 9/17/2025 at 9:52 PM, West said:

Amazing.. these people are saying that Trump is taking away "free speech" while not acknowledging that sticking a bullet in someones neck is the ultimate fascist move to silence free speech. Sickos

It was very wrong to kill Kirk, whether it was a MAGA guy or a leftist (we don’t know for sure). It was also very wrong to exploit his death and use it to destroy free speech, which Kirk championed in his life.

[West]

5 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

It was very wrong to kill Kirk, whether it was a MAGA guy or a leftist (we don’t know for sure). It was also very wrong to exploit his death and use it to destroy free speech, which Kirk championed in his life.

Lil Jimmy met the same fate as many other people on television who fall short of the networks standards. I don't know why you are trying to equate that with a guy getting murdered 

[Chrissy1979]

5 minutes ago, West said:

Lil Jimmy met the same fate as many other people on television who fall short of the networks standards. I don't know why you are trying to equate that with a guy getting murdered 

I’m not, but you’re deliberately ignoring the FCC and Trump’s admission they pressured ABC to fire him. If they’re willing to admit they exploited Kirk’s death to get rid of something he championed, why are you scared to?

[West]

6 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

I’m not, but you’re deliberately ignoring the FCC and Trump’s admission they pressured ABC to fire him. If they’re willing to admit they exploited Kirk’s death to get rid of something he championed, why are you scared to?

Thats the job of the FCC. There's actually pretty high standards for things like falsely accusing someone of murder on FCC regulated broadcasts and glorifying political assassinations. 

You may not like that these exist, but that's a you problem. 

Also many left leaning pundits used this to attack Trump, the NRA, MAGA and everything else. Yet you seem to have no problem with that even whining about low ratings Jimmy losing his job

Edited September 20, 2025 by West

[Chrissy1979]

4 minutes ago, West said:

Thats the job of the FCC. There's actually pretty high standards for things like falsely accusing someone of murder on FCC regulated broadcasts and glorifying political assassinations. 

You may not like that these exist, but that's a you problem. 

Also many left leaning pundits used this to attack Trump, the NRA, MAGA and everything else. Yet you seem to have no problem with that even whining about low ratings Jimmy losing his job

Kimmell didn’t glorify his sssassination though. Not even close. If he did, you would quote his words, but you know you’re lying so you won’t. It’s just a lie to try to justify something you can’t otherwise justify. I see through you and you’re very weak and pathetic.

[West]

41 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Kimmell didn’t glorify his sssassination though. Not even close. If he did, you would quote his words, but you know you’re lying so you won’t. It’s just a lie to try to justify something you can’t otherwise justify. I see through you and you’re very weak and pathetic.

Bill Maher was fired from ABC after 9/11 for a similar level comment. Not sure why you are making him out as a martyr

 

[Chrissy1979]

1 minute ago, West said:

Bill Maher was fired from ABC after 9/11 for a similar level comment. Not sure why you are making him out as a martyr

 

That was wrong too. Did Bush’s government get the FCC to force the firing though?

I’ll ask the same question all you guys have been afraid to answer: Have you always been opposed to free speech or did that just start this week?

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

If they’re willing to admit they exploited Kirk’s death to get rid of something he championed, why are you scared to?

You repeatedly fail to acknowledge that Kimmel was only pulled because he wasn't liberal and outspoken  enough.

Edited September 20, 2025 by Venandi

[Chrissy1979]

5 minutes ago, Venandi said:

You repeatedly fail to acknowledge that Kimmel was only pulled because he wasn't liberal and outspoken  enough.

Whatever the reason, the government should respect free speech. It’s in the constitution, just like how insurrectionists should not allowed to be president. Unfortunately the Supreme Court no longer respects the constitution.

[Venandi]

34 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Whatever the reason...

Actually, I was hopping you would absorb the ridiculousness of my statement (above) and relate it to some of your own rhetoric.

I'm not going to waste time looking up the origin of this because facts don't seem to matter much here, but as I recall:

The FCC (and a couple of other regulatory bodies) were placed under the supervision of the WH by EO in the first quarter of this year. Trump's position on this (at least insofar as it applies to the FCC) was that the MSM (and off shoots of it), did not reflect the opinion of the majority of voters and was (I'll call it) overly weaponized. Prior to that, WH influence was mostly limited to the selection of the heads of regulatory boards.

That's my simplified version of it anyway and while I understood his thinking on the matter, I thought then (and still do) that it was a bad idea because of how easily it could be weaponized by any administration for political gain.

Now, just imagine an EO like this in the hands of democrats... since they invented the very weaponization I most fear, I think it would be a bonafide disaster for free speech.

Apart from general principle, that's my personal reason for opposing it but I'm now thinking that democrats are frothing at the mouth waiting until it's their turn to do the same thing. When that time comes they will deploy the same information management techniques they now decry and they'll do it with a vengeance... all whilst wishing that they had thought of it first. 

 

 

Edited September 20, 2025 by Venandi

[West]

1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Whatever the reason, the government should respect free speech. It’s in the constitution, just like how insurrectionists should not allowed to be president. Unfortunately the Supreme Court no longer respects the constitution.

The networks who platform mainly liberals should be respectful of free speech. Especially if they expect favors from the government. 

Trump has already won a few lawsuits against the libs for doctoring videos and making false claims. 

In order for free speech to work one must trust the other side is acting in good faith as they debate the issues, not lying or doctoring videos after the fact to set a narrative. But libs dont believe in free speech. 

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, West said:

And when Trump brings in the national guard to clean up democrat hell hole from violent gang crime you call him names. Sad

He can provide more FUNDING for local LEO, but INSTEAD has FOOLED you into believing Nat Guard will do a better job.

They ARE NOT TRAINED nor legally ABLE to serve as LEO.

Look up POSSE COMMITATUS Act which is why the Judge ruled their deployment to LA was ILLEGAL.

Nobody except YOU MAGA CULT is fooled by the show Trump is putting on.

[Chrissy1979]

16 minutes ago, West said:

The networks who platform mainly liberals should be respectful of free speech. Especially if they expect favors from the government. 

Trump has already won a few lawsuits against the libs for doctoring videos and making false claims. 

In order for free speech to work one must trust the other side is acting in good faith as they debate the issues, not lying or doctoring videos after the fact to set a narrative. But libs dont believe in free speech. 

You make a bunch of arguments about why you don’t believe in free speech and then say kind don’t believe in it. Are you a lib now? If you think so, you’re wrong. Liberty means freedom.

[User]

16 minutes ago, robosmith said:

He can provide more FUNDING for local LEO, but INSTEAD has FOOLED you into believing Nat Guard will do a better job.

They ARE NOT TRAINED nor legally ABLE to serve as LEO.

Look up POSSE COMMITATUS Act which is why the Judge ruled their deployment to LA was ILLEGAL.

Nobody except YOU MAGA CULT is fooled by the show Trump is putting on.

National Guard can do a good job. They have already proven so. 

They don't have to be trained as LEO to be in position to support local LEO, defend people, and defend property. 

Look up why that Judge was overruled and why Trump is still doing it. 

Why do you support lawlessness?

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

Actually, I was hopping you would absorb the ridiculousness of my statement (above) and relate it to some of your own rhetoric.

I'm not going to waste time looking up the origin of this because facts don't seem to matter much here, but as I recall:

The FCC (and a couple of other regulatory bodies) were placed under the supervision of the WH by EO in the first quarter of this year. Trump's position on this (at least insofar as it applies to the FCC) was that the MSM (and off shoots of it), did not reflect the opinion of the majority of voters and was (I'll call it) overly weaponized. Prior to that, WH influence was mostly limited to the selection of the heads of regulatory boards.

That's my simplified version of it anyway and while I understood his thinking on the matter, I thought then (and still do) that it was a bad idea because of how easily it could be weaponized by any administration for political gain.

Now, just imagine an EO like this in the hands of democrats... since they invented the very weaponization I most fear, I think it would be a bonafide disaster for free speech.

Apart from general principle, that's my personal reason for opposing it but I'm now thinking that democrats are frothing at the mouth waiting until it's their turn to do the same thing. When that time comes they will deploy the same information management techniques they now decry and they'll do it with a vengeance... all whilst wishing that they had thought of it first. 

^Pure SPECULATION for which you HAVE NO EVIDENCE.

Unlike Trump WHO PROMISED LAWFARE, Biden never said ANYTHING ABOUT COMMANDING THE DOJ because they are INDEPENDENT in the PURSUIT of JUSTICE.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

It was very wrong to kill Kirk, whether it was a MAGA guy or a leftist (we don’t know for sure).

We know 100% for sure. So seeing is the back half of your statement is a lie is there any reason we shouldn't believe that you're lying about your feelings about the front half?

3 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said:

Whatever the reason, the government should respect free speech. 

The left has never believed that and has supported repression of free speech when it suited them. Now that it doesn't suit them they want free speech respected

But whether the right degrees or not it is a simple fact that both sides have to play by the same rules. When the left starts calling out free speech issues that involve their side, you can probably expect the right to be calling out their own people. But as long as the left supports the attack of their enemies then the right is going to allow it to

You can't have free speech only when it suits you Chrissy