Goddess Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 minute ago, ExFlyer said: I really do not care what you think of me. Of course you do. That's why you are so desperate to catch my attention every day. 🤣 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 1 minute ago, Goddess said: Liberal or NDP partisans who claim Poilievre doesn’t have a security clearance and imply that there must be some nefarious reason, don’t know or even try to understand the difference between a security clearance which Poilievre has held for over 20 continuous years (at Level I initially as all MP’s receive & then at Level II for the last decade, and as all junior ministers require) & still holds and the temporary 30-day NSICOP clearance which was offered to the opposition leaders in the wake of the election interference commission report, which had a classified annex related to a redacted NSICOP annual report issued in June 2023. A Level III (top secret) security clearance which is required by senior ministers in specific portfolios, has never ever been provided to an opposition member just because they are in a specific shadow minister position - let alone to an opposition leader. The PM, on a case-by-case basis, can brief any member of the opposition on any classified topic at any time. In fact, if you are the Minister of Defence with a Level III clearance-enhanced and you are shuffled to the backbenches, you don’t get to keep your clearance. Frequently those with Level II clearances or below can keep their clearance as long as it is renewed IAW the requirements, even if they become opposition members. Level III (top secret) is while so employed and does not remain active, if it’s not required. So..... what makes a NSICOP clearance so unique? And why is it foolish for an opposition leader to obtain one even temporarily as Singh, May & Blanchet did? It primarily boils down to two added caveats that you must agree to: 1. You waive Parliamentary privilege to speak about anything that you have read, heard or seen in a classified NSICOP setting, which even includes making mention of anything that appears in the annual public NSICOP report. 2. You cannot act on what you have read, heard or seen or tell anyone else about it. In other words, if you were to read that a government minister had knowingly accepted financial help from a foreign gov, you would risk being charged criminally & sentenced to prison for up to 5 years if you asked the PM about this allegation in QP, even if it was all over the media. Why would an opposition leader take questioning the PM in QP off the table? If that same opposition leader learned that one of his MP’s that was willingly working with a foreign gov't - he couldn’t act on it, couldn’t tell the MP you were on to them & certainly couldn’t fire them. This is a lifetime restriction! And let’s not forget that in Canada, the PM requires no enhanced security background checks and is the sole decision maker on who receives classified information & what is de-classified, so if an opposition leader or an MP needs to know something he can tell them anytime. I don’t oppose in any way opposition leaders getting Level III (top secret) security clearances if they get monthly or quarterly briefings organized by the PMO, otherwise it’s absolutely useless, but before that happens we need politicians, the media and the millions of useful id10ts in Canadian voter rolls to stop conflating the very different aspects of a so-called top secret security clearance & a NSICOP security clearance. That’s just pure politics and being misused by partisans intent on demonizing Poilievre. Man!!! What a load of crap LOL Polievere has said himself he will not get the security clearance. And opposition members do get top secret clearance so they can get security briefings. Even Elizabeth May has it and she is singular LOL No, again, you are wrong, if something is classified as top secret...the PM cannot tell anyone that is not cleared top secret. Your knowledge of security clearances is clearly lacking and you need to get informed. 1 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 3 minutes ago, Goddess said: Of course you do. That's why you are so desperate to catch my attention every day. 🤣 HA HA HA...clearly you think a lot more of yourself than even I assumed. LOL LOL LOL Oh and,...a said many times...I only retort when I am responded to...and it seems you are the one that start with me...and I retort. Stop and you will not hear form me but, like confux...seems you are also addicted to me LOL 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 8 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Polievere has said himself he will not get the security clearance. Exactly. Because it's a security clearance that Trudeau made up, so he could put things in there and parliamentarians would not be able to speak about them or act on them. And you fell for it!!!!! You dumba$$!!!! 🤣 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Goddess Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 7 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: it seems you are the one that start with me...and I retort. No. When I'm posting on a topic, I rarely am speaking directly to YOU. But you follow me around the board, replying to everything I post, and my notifications are FILLED TO THE BRIM with you desperately searching every morning for any of my posts and downvoting them. You clearly are wanting my attention. Every day. Everyone can see it. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 3 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Once more...another confux BS post!! LOL Have nothing to say...as normal so insult dead parents ??? Pretty low. You're the one that called your mother unprivileged and with a mental disorder. That wasn't me kiddo Maybe don't say your mom has a mental disorder if you don't want people to talk about her mental disorder. I mean it must be pretty bad if even you are talking about it Quote It is impolite to be angry, insulting, underprivileged and mentally impaired Talking about your mom again? I know you've said previously that she let your father do inappropriate things with you but this weird passive aggressive attacks on her while attempting to defend her are just odd Although it does explain why you're so messed up 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ironstone Posted February 9 Report Posted February 9 5 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Bruce Fanjoy did not start the petition although it is a great idea. " It would be even better if Canadians were allowed to hear about the extent of Chinese interference. The Liberals are doing everything they can to prevent that from happening. This petition is designed to embarrass Poilievre, and it's targeted at Canadians who don't understand or are probably totally unaware of Chinese interference. 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 13 hours ago, CdnFox said: You're the one .... Although it does explain why you're so messed up Once more...another confux BS post!! LOL So sad you are also suffering from dimentia. Inability to comprehend is one of the symptoms and you certainly demonstarte that affliction HA HA HA. it has been me tap dancing in your head for over a year now....that is why you cannot stop posting to me LOL LOL LOL You are addicted to me you degenerate pedophile LOSER HA HA. HA It is impolite to be angry at the underprivileged and mentally impaired as you now are. You cannot stop... tap tap tap.... C'mon back...I know you will because you are addicted to me LOL LOL LOL 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 13 hours ago, ironstone said: It would be even better if Canadians were allowed to hear about the extent of Chinese interference. The Liberals are doing everything they can to prevent that from happening. This petition is designed to embarrass Poilievre, and it's targeted at Canadians who don't understand or are probably totally unaware of Chinese interference. Was there not an investigation into foreign interference? "focused on the interference that China, Russia and other foreign actors". By the Liberals...when they were in power? https://foreigninterferencecommission.ca/ I think the petition is there to put everyone on the same playing field. Is there some sort of fear that something will be found while checking security? 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 14 hours ago, Goddess said: Exactly. Because it's a security clearance that Trudeau made up, so he could put things in there and parliamentarians would not be able to speak about them or act on them. And you fell for it!!!!! You dumba$$!!!! 🤣 Seems you do not know anything about security clearance and do not have to prove it at every post LOL Security clearances have been around for many many decades...not just a Trudeau thing. LOL 'If you want to know and have insight...you need clearance. If you want to remain ignorant and make uniformed statements, then don't get a clearance and spout rumours and suppositions...as PP does 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 14 hours ago, Goddess said: No. When I'm posting on a topic, I rarely am speaking directly to YOU. But you follow me around the board, replying to everything I post, and my notifications are FILLED TO THE BRIM with you desperately searching every morning for any of my posts and downvoting them. You clearly are wanting my attention. Every day. Everyone can see it. Hmmmm, when you quote me...seems like you are speaking directly at me LOL You post to me, I post back. You don't want me to post back...don't respond ...pretty simple...even for you LOL. Ahhh, there ya go....you no like downvotes....so sad...don't post BS and you won't get em LOL Sounding a lot like confux....that is pretty sad...even for you LOL 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 5 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Was there not an investigation into foreign interference? "focused on the interference that China, Russia and other foreign actors". By the Liberals...when they were in power? https://foreigninterferencecommission.ca/ I think the petition is there to put everyone on the same playing field. Is there some sort of fear that something will be found while checking security? Yes they did. But certain records have been ordered sealed for 99 years, as in, the Canadian public has no right to know what's in them. And in the limited information that was released, the names of the politicians involved were not released, as in, the Canadian public once again has no right to know. And now with Carney's new strategic partnership with China, the level of interference is likely going to get even worse. 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 minutes ago, ironstone said: Yes they did. But certain records have been ordered sealed for 99 years, as in, the Canadian public has no right to know what's in them. And in the limited information that was released, the names of the politicians involved were not released, as in, the Canadian public once again has no right to know. And now with Carney's new strategic partnership with China, the level of interference is likely going to get even worse. Oh??? I can find no evidence of that. There will always be thing the public will not know in many many things, be they business decisions or security decisions. An assumption to panic and feed conspiracy theorists LOL. 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 24 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Oh??? I can find no evidence of that. There will always be thing the public will not know in many many things, be they business decisions or security decisions. An assumption to panic and feed conspiracy theorists LOL. Did Marie Josee Hogue seal the findings of the Foreign Interference Inquiry for 99 years? Search Yes, Justice Marie-Josée Hogue has indeed issued a ruling that seals the affidavits of two witnesses involved in the foreign interference inquiry for 99 years. This decision was made to protect the identity of the witnesses, who provided firsthand accounts related to Beijing's influence on Canadian politics. The sealing of these documents, along with a simultaneous order to keep other commission materials confidential, aims to safeguard the witnesses from potential threats and harassment due to their testimonies. Protecting the identity of witnesses...for 99 years? Protect them from...the CCP? Seems like Canada can't guarantee the safety of Canadians from the wrath of China. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 56 minutes ago, ironstone said: Did Marie Josee Hogue seal the findings of the Foreign Interference Inquiry for 99 years? Search Yes, Justice Marie-Josée Hogue has indeed issued a ruling that seals the affidavits of two witnesses involved in the foreign interference inquiry for 99 years. This decision was made to protect the identity of the witnesses, who provided firsthand accounts related to Beijing's influence on Canadian politics. The sealing of these documents, along with a simultaneous order to keep other commission materials confidential, aims to safeguard the witnesses from potential threats and harassment due to their testimonies. Protecting the identity of witnesses...for 99 years? Protect them from...the CCP? Seems like Canada can't guarantee the safety of Canadians from the wrath of China. OK...so, the answer to your question is there then. Would you like to have your name out there in the public if you gave damning testimony??? There is a significant difference between a nation to nation trade partnership and agreements and a criminal investigation and testimony of individuals. Could anyone protect witnesses from the Russians? The United States? India? From other foreign actors that were part of the commissions investigations? You do not think it is important to protect them? Edited February 10 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ironstone Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: You do not think it is important to protect them? It's reasonable to assume that it would be China that would pose a threat to the witnesses. Yes it is important to protect them from the CCP but it's going to be more difficult now that Carney is moving towards China. I would hope that they would have at least considered redacting the names of witnesses, but Canadians certainly deserve to know which of our politicians were involved with China. If China already felt confident enough to be operating 'police stations' on our soil, just imagine what they plan to do next now that Carney made them strategic partners. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Once more...another Exfyler BS post!! LOL Good morning little guy! Woke up cranky again? I imagine you didn't get much sleep with the noise of your "underprivlidged" mom with the "Mental disorder" as you put it 'Entertaining" her clients all night. Hey, those diapers you wear aren't cheap, money's got to come from somewhere 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Seems you do not know anything about security clearance and do not have to prove it at every post LOL Security clearances have been around for many many decades...not just a Trudeau thing. LOL Then why didn't he get his security clearance when he was the official opposition? Game set and match jr 18 hours ago, Goddess said: No. When I'm posting on a topic, I rarely am speaking directly to YOU. But you follow me around the board, replying to everything I post, and my notifications are FILLED TO THE BRIM with you desperately searching every morning for any of my posts and downvoting them. It's what he does. He obsesses. You get used to it after a bit. He thinks of me as the daddy that 'went out for smokes' 12 years ago and never came back, it's possible he thinks of you as a mommy figure that actually pays attention to him rather than just to other men. Teens need their moms after all. Edited February 10 by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 1 hour ago, ironstone said: It's reasonable to assume that it would be China that would pose a threat to the witnesses. Yes it is important to protect them from the CCP but it's going to be more difficult now that Carney is moving towards China. I would hope that they would have at least considered redacting the names of witnesses, but Canadians certainly deserve to know which of our politicians were involved with China. If China already felt confident enough to be operating 'police stations' on our soil, just imagine what they plan to do next now that Carney made them strategic partners. I disagree. Closing the file protects them. I also think that Russia and even the US is a danger to those that testified so, keeping the names secret is important. If you think chinese police stations are a problem...they are evident and not hiding it, I think US actions and Russian actions that are hiding it are as problematic, if not more. Lastly, trade partnerships are being made with many countries....and strategic ones are needed if we are losing the US as partners. Edited February 10 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 (edited) 55 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Good morning little guy! ...... It's what he does. He obsesses. You get used to it after a bit. .. OMG...Once more...another confux BS post!! LOL So sad you are also suffering from dimentia. Inability to comprehend is one of the symptoms and you certainly demonstarte that affliction HA HA HA. it has been me tap dancing in your head for over a year now....that is why you cannot stop posting to me LOL LOL LOL You are addicted to me you degenerate pedophile LOSER HA HA. HA It is impolite to be angry at the underprivileged and mentally impaired as you now are. You cannot stop... tap tap tap.... C'mon back...I know you will because you are addicted to me LOL LOL LOL WOW...I am in both your heads if ya gottta talk about me amonsgt yourselves. I have made great progress in pi$$ing you off LOL LOL LOL. You are both huge LOSERS HA HA HA Edited February 10 by ExFlyer 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 19 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: I am in both your heads No, you just make a spectacle of yourself. Every day. You need a LOT of attention. You're here every day, BEGGING for it. So why whine about it when you get it? 🤣 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 1 hour ago, Goddess said: No, you just make a spectacle of yourself. Every day. You need a LOT of attention. You're here every day, BEGGING for it. So why whine about it when you get it? 🤣 And yet here you are HA HA HA Only responding because you posted to me....as you and confux do LOL LOL LOL If you no like...don't give me any attention So, Clearly in your head too 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 46 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: If you no like...don't give me any attention If you no like me giving attention to your constant daily begging for attention.....don't give me any attention. See how that works? Honestly, are you really THIS dense? You're like a 3 year old, bouncing around demanding "EVERYBODY LOOK AT MEEEEEE!!! LOOOK WHAT I CAN DOOOOO!!!! HEY, WATCH ME!!! LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!! LOOK AT MEEEEE! WATCH ME!!! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE EVERYBODY!!!! WATCHMEWATCHMEWATCHME!!!" And then when someone tells you to STFU, your response is "Just ignore me while I make a total a$$ of myself and butt in and post nonsense drivel on every thread" Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 2 hours ago, ExFlyer said: OMG...Once more...another exflyer BS post!! LOL Looks that way, i just tune in to see if your badmouthing your mom any more Do you think she turned to prostitution because of her mental health issues? 56 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: And yet here you are HA HA HA Only responding because you posted to me... Okay if you go back and look you wind up initiating this stuff, people reply to you. Then you get upset and chase those people around the internet. You get up in the morning in the first thing you do is run around and find all the posts of the people that you're fixated about and put little down arrows on them like a little boy filling in his coloring book. Then you start to make comments so people may comments back I see you get your mental health from your mother Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 11 minutes ago, Goddess said: If you no like me giving attention to your constant daily begging for attention.....don't give me any attention. See how that works? Honestly, are you really THIS dense? You're like a 3 year old, bouncing around demanding "EVERYBODY LOOK AT MEEEEEE!!! LOOOK WHAT I CAN DOOOOO!!!! HEY, WATCH ME!!! LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!! LOOK AT MEEEEE! WATCH ME!!! LOOK AT MEEEEEEEE EVERYBODY!!!! WATCHMEWATCHMEWATCHME!!!" And then when someone tells you to STFU, your response is "Just ignore me while I make a total a$$ of myself and butt in and post nonsense drivel on every thread" HA HA HA Here ya are again....and you tell me I am not in your head....FAIL LOL LOL LOL 7 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Looks that way,...... I see you get your mental health from your mother OMG...Once more...another confux BS post!! LOL So sad you are also suffering from dimentia. Inability to comprehend is one of the symptoms and you certainly demonstarte that affliction HA HA HA. it has been me tap dancing in your head for over a year now....that is why you cannot stop posting to me LOL LOL LOL You are addicted to me you degenerate pedophile LOSER HA HA. HA It is impolite to be angry at the underprivileged and mentally impaired as you now are. You cannot stop... tap tap tap.... C'mon back...I know you will because you are addicted to me LOL LOL LOL WOW...I am in both your heads if ya gottta talk about me amonsgt yourselves. I have made great progress in pi$$ing you off LOL LOL LOL. You are both huge LOSERS HA HA HA 1 Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
CdnFox Posted February 10 Report Posted February 10 3 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: HA HA HA I accept your admission of defeat Quote Here ya are again.... Yep, responding to your post. Quote and you tell me I am not in your head LOL kid i know you're desperate for someone to care about you seeing as your parents didn't but i'm afraid nobody does Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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