ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Goddess said: $0 tax payer money would have been needed if the Liberal government had not continually impeded the project. The Liberals didn't just screw over Alberta, they screwed over all Canadians. This s how Alberta knows that the Libs are lying about wanting to turn Canada into an "energy superpower". That is not what they want. They never have. They don't want any industry in Canada. It's why they're sabotaging everything now. Carney isn't here to save Canada. He's here to drain the last of the country's coffers for his billionaire banker friends and preside over the collapse, all while whispering sweet nothings into the boomer's ears. You are aware it was the BC government that had issues??? "suspended all non-essential spending on the project in April 2018 due to investor uncertainty, primarily stemming from opposition by the British Columbia government." Edited February 4 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 25 minutes ago, CdnFox said: All of which can be laid at the federal government's feet I'm pretty sure imagining that's usually the case in Canada is what partly motivated the old Petro-Canada idea of a nationalized oil industry. It's also increasingly looking like that old model is the only path forward - Ottawa forcing everything through. 29 minutes ago, CdnFox said: But they won't. Because carney is actually blocking any new pipeline while pretending that he'd really like to but it's not his fault they can't. This sounds a lot more like an argument that conveniences your endless need to be partisan about everything above all else. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: I'm pretty sure imagining that's usually the case in Canada is what partly motivated the old Petro-Canada idea of a nationalized oil industry. It's also increasingly looking like that old model is the only path forward - Ottawa forcing everything through. The opposite is true. The government would get the hell out of the way private industry would be happy to step up as I posted several times before they've come right out and said the impediment is the regulatory environment Quote This sounds a lot more like an argument that conveniences your endless need to be partisan about everything above all else. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Goddess Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 23 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: You are aware it was the BC government that had issues??? Ya, I'm aware that part of it was the BC gov't. I'm from Alberta. I know what happened. I don't know where you're getting your quotes from because you don't cite anything, I suspect you quickly googled something and copy & pasted whatever the first line was, like you usually do. Or maybe ChatGPT. Kinder Morgan said publicly stated they withdrew because the environment in Canada made it impossible to complete major energy infrastructure projects. I know you worship the Liberals, but honestly, dude. Give it up. It's the Liberal gov't that has sabotaged industry in this country. We all know it. There was more to the opposition to the pipeline than just the BC gov't. 🙄 Read the WHOLE story. Edited February 4 by Goddess 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 8 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The government would get the hell out of the way private industry would be happy to step up as I posted several times before they've come right out and said the impediment is the regulatory environment Which government should get out of the way? There's a dozen of them with regulatory environments. You need the one with the biggest two by four to smack the others into compliance with the program. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Goddess Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 13 minutes ago, CdnFox said: they've come right out and said the impediment is the regulatory environment The 12-yr-old thinks the BC gov't controls Canada's entire regulatory environment. 🤣 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You need the one with the biggest two by four to smack the others into compliance with the program. OR. You could quit voting in the Liberals. 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
eyeball Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 1 minute ago, Goddess said: You could quit voting in the Liberals. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
ExFlyer Posted February 4 Report Posted February 4 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Goddess said: Ya, I'm aware that part of it was the BC gov't. I'm from Alberta. I know what happened. I don't know where you're getting your quotes from because you don't cite anything, I suspect you quickly googled something and copy & pasted whatever the first line was, like you usually do. Or maybe ChatGPT. Kinder Morgan said publicly stated they withdrew because the environment in Canada made it impossible to complete major energy infrastructure projects. I know you worship the Liberals, but honestly, dude. Give it up. It's the Liberal gov't that has sabotaged industry in this country. We all know it. There was more to the opposition to the pipeline than just the BC gov't. 🙄 Read the WHOLE story. So then when you said "needed if the Liberal government had not continually impeded the project." you were blowing smoke and wrong again? LOL So,the 12 yer old can set you straight...again OK, here ya go but...if you knew this it is only a repeat for you LOL "B.C.’s New Democratic government fiercely opposes the project, fearing that an expansion would increase the risk of an oil spill." "First Nations officials and activists have also spoken out against it, saying the project cannot go forward unless Indigenous communities along the pipeline’s path are consulted." "The Trudeau Liberals approved the expansion in November 2016. Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has been a strong supporter of the project, saying it is necessary for the Canadian economy. Trudeau has long tried to convince B.C. Premier John Horgan to back down and let the project go ahead." So, go ahead and read the whole story https://globalnews.ca/news/4139833/kinder-morgan-trans-mountain-pipeline-what-to-know/ https://thenarwhal.ca/real-reason-canada-crisis-over-kinder-morgan-pipeline/ https://www.dogwoodbc.ca/news/six-reasons-kinder-morgan-hope/?srsltid=AfmBOoqI4qiLFmiW1fpWjewcyNbCxK35DLC-0AlRpwh-Tp3ih53yzvOr Bottom line, Trudeau wanted it and eventually took it over and got it built. Nope, I am basically a conservative but PP made me change my stripes, will go back when PP is gone.. Edited February 4 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) 6 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: So then when you said "needed if the Liberal government had not continually impeded the project." you were blowing smoke and wrong again? LOL So,the 12 yer old can set you straight...again It's mainly the Liberal gov't. That was straight from Kinder Morgan. If Trudeau had wanted it, he would've made sure BC didn't block it and he would have stopped funding the protesters. He didn't. I don't care what Trudeau or Carney SAYS. It's their actions that matter. Edited February 5 by Goddess Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 59 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sorry kiddo but in your case if the hamster fits..... Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: So,the 12 yer old can set you straight...again OK, here ya go but...if you knew this it is only a repeat for you LOL Like I said... 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 3 hours ago, eyeball said: Which government should get out of the way? Start with a federal government. Get rid of the laws that forbid pipelines and tankers and streamline the process. That's more than enough to get the ball rolling Quote There's a dozen of them with regulatory environments. The federal ones were the ones they were complaining about Quote You need the one with the biggest two by four to smack the others into compliance with the program. The feds have the authority. They can exercise it as they need to 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Like I said... You realize you're the gerbil right? 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 37 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The federal ones were the ones they were complaining about No it isn't. 39 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You realize you're the gerbil right? Sure kid. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, eyeball said: No it isn't. They said so specifically. Actually posted those quotes short time ago. But as always if you haven't got an argument you got a lie handy 1 hour ago, eyeball said: Sure kid. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 13 hours ago, Goddess said: It's mainly the Liberal gov't. That was straight from Kinder Morgan. If Trudeau had wanted it, he would've made sure BC didn't block it and he would have stopped funding the protesters. He didn't. I don't care what Trudeau or Carney SAYS. It's their actions that matter. Look, try as you may, the proof has been provided...the "hindering" was by the BC government and the indigenous. Trudeau made sure BC didn't block it by taking ti over and getting it built. Trudeau's action was getting it built and Carney was not there.... Nice try but...you FAIL Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: the "hindering" was by the BC government and the indigenous. And the Liberal gov't . Why do you deny it? Both Kinder Morgan and now the newly lost $1 billion Glencoe project in Quebec - both companies have directly blamed the liberal gov't for hindering and delaying their projects. Are they lying? And there's a myriad of other companies that have said the same thing. And we don't know how many other companies just don't even try. We also know that the feds could easily green light these infrastructure projects, cut through the red tape and make the investment environment more attractive. But they refuse to. Why? 4 hours ago, ExFlyer said: Nice try but...you FAIL Actually, Canada fails. And it will continue to fail until people like you get your head out of the Liberal's a$$, stop excusing their failures and start facing reality. 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
ExFlyer Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Goddess said: And the Liberal gov't . Why do you deny it? Both Kinder Morgan and now the newly lost $1 billion Glencoe project in Quebec - both companies have directly blamed the liberal gov't for hindering and delaying their projects. Are they lying? And there's a myriad of other companies that have said the same thing. And we don't know how many other companies just don't even try. We also know that the feds could easily green light these infrastructure projects, cut through the red tape and make the investment environment more attractive. But they refuse to. Why? Actually, Canada fails. And it will continue to fail until people like you get your head out of the Liberal's a$$, stop excusing their failures and start facing reality. Oh my...you just don't read what is put in front of you. Sad you are so literate Is that conservative trait?? Canada did not fail...Canada got the pipeline because the feds paid for the pipeline. Edited February 5 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said: Canada got the pipeline because the feds paid for the pipeline. Sure. If you ignore all the stuff that happened in between there. As I always say, a Liberal could rape a 9-yr-old on live TV and you'd cheer for it. 1 1 1 Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 55 minutes ago, Goddess said: Sure. If you ignore all the stuff that happened in between there. As I always say, a Liberal could rape a 9-yr-old on live TV and you'd cheer for it. Hell, the way he obsesses over pedophilia he might be the liberal in question 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
ExFlyer Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Goddess said: Sure. If you ignore all the stuff that happened in between there. As I always say, a Liberal could rape a 9-yr-old on live TV and you'd cheer for it. Oh my..... I knew you has a problem understanding but never realized the extent of it. I am sorry for you And a degenerate sexual insult too? Lessons form confux I see. Again so sad to be you Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
ExFlyer Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 51 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Hell, the way he obsesses over pedophilia he might be the liberal in question Nope...it is a pedophile is you calling people teenagers and 12 year old and keep on luring them...and teaching others how to do it is a sign of a a true pedophile predator.....like you.... a degenerate pervert pedophiliac LOSER . Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
Goddess Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 Committee today is debating C-15 the Budget Implementation Act. Patty Hadju was scheduled to testify. First thing she says: "I'm sorry, Mr. Chair. You're gonna have to tell me what C-15 is." 🙄 Prepared much? Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
Venandi Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 (edited) Lions and tigers and bears "oh my." https://nationalpost.com/opinion/david-clement-so-does-scrapping-ev-mandate-make-mark-carney-a-climate-change-denier This strikes me as a pretty epic 180 degree pivot without a whimper from supporters (right here) who defended 9 years of JT madness with insults and ridicule. Remember the inflamed rhetoric directed at Maple MAGA's? How is it that the moral high ground is now a fishing hole? I'm not talking about the decision itself here, simply wondering how it's possible to pivot so far so fast after hurling so much venom and insults for so long? Trying to sell this as pragmatism and good politics, as opposed to hypocrisy on steroids must be thirsty work. Those liberal spin hook kicks are truly a force of nature... I stand in awe. Edited February 5 by Venandi Quote
Goddess Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 50% of us fell for the joke and the bait. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
CdnFox Posted February 5 Report Posted February 5 1 hour ago, ExFlyer said: Nope...it is a pedophile is you calling people teenagers and 12 year old and keep on luring them... LOL i always know when i've really upset you because you some how lose the ability to speak english "it is a pedophile is you calling people." ??? In any case kid nobody 'lured' you. I know you're desperate to have someone actually be physically attracted to you and you favour men but nobody here at all ever actually showed any interest in you that way. ESPECIALLY me. Yet you constantly seem to daydream about it and fixate on it, to the point where you convince yourself. Which if anything is more proof you're just a kid. And it's goddess that calls you 12, i usually peg you at 15 or so, tho she might be right. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
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