Boges Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 I think Americans actively want people to stop doing business with them. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5yqg0rln74o Quote A South Korean worker who witnessed a massive immigration operation at a car factory in Georgia has told the BBC of panic and confusion as federal agents descended on the site and arrested hundreds. The man, who asked to remain anonymous, was at the factory which is jointly owned by Hyundai and LG Energy Solution when agents from Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) arrested 475 people, including 300 South Korean nationals, with some being led away in chains. He said he first became aware of the Thursday morning raid when he and his colleagues received a deluge of phone calls from company bosses. "Multiple phone lines were ringing and the message was to shut down operations," he said. As news spread of the raid, the largest of its kind since President Donald Trump returned to the White House, the man said panicked family members tried to contact the workers. These weren't illegal immigrants brought in to take American jobs. They were working for Hyundai to get the plant up and running and Trumps goons take them away in chains. I've travelled to work in the US, I didn't get a VISA. If I go back do I know have to register with ICE? Eff that! People all over the world see this and see the US as a hostile place to do business. My boss cancelled a planned showing an a Trade Expo because they didn't want to deal with any drama from US immigration. I honestly think Trump and his goons are trying to ruin the US so they can profit from the rebuilding process like happened post 2008. 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 Also 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Also What's your point? Looks like he was just quoting the braindead democrats. Quote
Deluge Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 25 minutes ago, Boges said: I think Americans actively want people to stop doing business with them. Nope. We just want aliens to stop breaking our immigration laws. Of course this kind of thing completely escapes lawless a$$holes like democrats, and left-wingers in general, but we don't really give a shit what they think. Quote
Boges Posted September 9, 2025 Author Report Posted September 9, 2025 5 minutes ago, Deluge said: Nope. We just want aliens to stop breaking our immigration laws. Of course this kind of thing completely escapes lawless a$$holes like democrats, and left-wingers in general, but we don't really give a shit what they think. I guess you also don't give a shit about foreign investment. A Korean company is investing in US manufacturing. Is it shocking they would want people from head office to oversee the plant's construction. I remember when I worked for a company with a US parent company, Americans were at the office all the time overseeing operations. 1 1 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 22 minutes ago, Deluge said: What's your point? Looks like he was just quoting the braindead democrats. My point is there are two threads on this. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted September 9, 2025 Report Posted September 9, 2025 19 minutes ago, Boges said: 1. I guess you also don't give a shit about foreign investment. 2. A Korean company is investing in US manufacturing. Is it shocking they would want people from head office to oversee the plant's construction. 3. I remember when I worked for a company with a US parent company, Americans were at the office all the time overseeing operations. 1. Not when it compromises our laws, no. I'm surprised you keep pushing this point. Are you a lawless a$$hole as well? 2. Is it too much to ask to follow our laws? Apparently so. Trump is doing the right thing. It's just unfortunate the the Koreans think they're above the law. 3. I do too. Were those Americans saying f*ck you to your immigration laws? Quote
User Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 20 hours ago, Boges said: I think Americans actively want people to stop doing business with them. No, we want them to do it lawfully. Quote
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 29 minutes ago, User said: No, we want them to do it lawfully. What law was broken? And how did ICE know that all those 400 detained broke said law? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 1 minute ago, Boges said: What law was broken? And how did ICE know that all those 400 detained broke said law? How many were released?😕 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 Just now, Michael Hardner said: How many were released?😕 I'm pretty sure all of them. The awful thing about ICE is that they'll hold you for days or weeks without a single charge then let you go. South Korea knew this so they sent their own jet and negotiated their release. Most immigrants aren't afforded such treatment. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 4 minutes ago, Boges said: I'm pretty sure all of them. The awful thing about ICE is that they'll hold you for days or weeks without a single charge then let you go. South Korea knew this so they sent their own jet and negotiated their release. Most immigrants aren't afforded such treatment. Its so pathetic, to watch simps who supported the policies that created this, try to condemn the consequences. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 15 minutes ago, Boges said: What law was broken? And how did ICE know that all those 400 detained broke said law? LOL 1 Quote
Deluge Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 18 minutes ago, Boges said: 1. What law was broken? 2. And how did ICE know that all those 400 detained broke said law? 1. Tampon Tim doesn't know what law was broken. lol 2. I'm sure ICE had info in advance, and I'm sure they checked for ID's and paperwork. Contrary to communist media messaging, ICE doesn't just scoop up people and detain them for no reason. 4 minutes ago, User said: LOL lol 1 Quote
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 4 minutes ago, Deluge said: 1. Tampon Tim doesn't know what law was broken. lol 2. I'm sure ICE had info in advance, and I'm sure they checked for ID's and paperwork. Contrary to communist media messaging, ICE doesn't just scoop up people and detain them for no reason. lol So what law was broken? If I go to the US for work do I need a VISA? 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Its so pathetic, to watch simps who supported the policies that created this, try to condemn the consequences. Polices such as? 1 Quote
User Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, Boges said: So what law was broken? What law was broken! What law was broken! What law was broken! OMG enough with this dumb sealioning routine. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-leads-multi-agency-operation-targeting-illegal-employment-and-federal-crimes Quote
Nationalist Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Boges said: So what law was broken? If I go to the US for work do I need a VISA? Polices such as? 1. Visa dependency is governed by rules. One of them being length of stay. I have gone to do contracted work in the states and if you overstay...there are consequences. Welcome to the consequences. 2. Open Borders and lies about asylum/ refugees. Edited September 10, 2025 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 33 minutes ago, Boges said: 1. So what law was broken? 2. If I go to the US for work do I need a VISA? 1. They either broke 8 U.S. Code § 1325, or Trump is pulling their visas because they do something stupid like riot on weekends. 2. Don't be a ****, just make it a statement, Say, "If I go to the US for work, I need a Visa". To which I say, "That is correct. So what's your point dumbass?". 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 21 hours ago, Boges said: I guess you also don't give a shit about foreign investment. A Korean company is investing in US manufacturing. Is it shocking they would want people from head office to oversee the plant's construction. I remember when I worked for a company with a US parent company, Americans were at the office all the time overseeing operations. Foreign investors have to follow the law as well I'm sure it makes the us less attractive that you can't exploit child labor either, or force people to work 20 hours a day. But the fact is if you want to do business in the USA there's rules you have to follow, and making sure your people are properly documented is one of them. They were all working there... were they paying taxes there? If it's a major company why couldn't they make sure the paperwork was done? Sorry but "Asking companies to follow the law makes us uncompetitive" is a pretty weak argument 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 57 minutes ago, User said: What law was broken! What law was broken! What law was broken! OMG enough with this dumb sealioning routine. https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-leads-multi-agency-operation-targeting-illegal-employment-and-federal-crimes From that link: Quote The individuals arrested during the operation were found to be working illegally, in violation of the terms of their visas and/or statuses. People on short-term or recreational visas are not authorized to work in the U.S. So when I went to an Conference for my US-owned company in Las Vegas I was working illegally and could have been thrown in a prison for such a crime? it's funny because when the customs officer asked why I'm going to the US, I was honest and said "On Business". They didn't deny me entry or detain me on arrival. Speaking to why this is such a problem. America is pretty much telling the world, do not enter. This sends a chilling precedent to anyone wanting to invest in the US. Quote
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 20 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Foreign investors have to follow the law as well I'm sure it makes the us less attractive that you can't exploit child labor either, or force people to work 20 hours a day. But the fact is if you want to do business in the USA there's rules you have to follow, and making sure your people are properly documented is one of them. They were all working there... were they paying taxes there? If it's a major company why couldn't they make sure the paperwork was done? Sorry but "Asking companies to follow the law makes us uncompetitive" is a pretty weak argument They were investing in a US manufacturing facility. I fail to see the crime here. They weren't bringing people in to steal "US jobs". Quote
CdnFox Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 2 minutes ago, Boges said: They were investing in a US manufacturing facility So then they should have been allowed to exploit child labor? Smuggle drugs perhaps? As long as we're investing in a US manufacturing facility it's okay to break the law? I think in practical terms the workers shouldn't be treated as criminals and the company should be given a chance to correct their paperwork but at the end of the day they obviously deliberately avoided the law. This isn't one or two examples sounds like most of the factory had people working there who weren't lawfully allowed to do so. Quote . I fail to see the crime here. DId they have their paperwork filled out? Unlawfully in the country is unlawfully in the country, end of story. You would think a company as big as Hyundai could sort out the paperwork beforehand so this appears to be deliberate. Quote They weren't bringing people in to steal "US jobs". Says who? How much were they getting paid? Were they paying us taxes on this labor? Did they try to hire Americans instead or did they just import a bunch of people quietly without telling the US government and think it was going to be okay? There is very clearly a violation here and it very clearly appears to be a deliberate one. And sending a message to industry that you have to follow the law is not a bad thing. And to have hundreds and hundreds of workers laboring here and being paid without the benefit of government employment standards and without the benefit of paying taxes for the services that the government provides isn't acceptable. I have little doubt that and I will make this right and start properly registering its workers and demonstrating whether or not Americans could do the job. And I have little doubt that if it's necessary the united states will authorize or in workers to work at their factories But it has to be above board. You are arguing that if a company really wants to as long as it's invested in America it should not have to follow American law. That is a morally bankrupt argument. You might argue that this could have been handled better but that hasn't been your argument to date. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 14 minutes ago, Boges said: From that link: So when I went to an Conference for my US-owned company in Las Vegas I was working illegally and could have been thrown in a prison for such a crime? it's funny because when the customs officer asked why I'm going to the US, I was honest and said "On Business". They didn't deny me entry or detain me on arrival. Speaking to why this is such a problem. America is pretty much telling the world, do not enter. This sends a chilling precedent to anyone wanting to invest in the US. Please share the exact methods of entry into the US you used, if it was a short term VISA, share the specifics of that... and no, it is not a "crime" but it is deportable and your visa can be revoked, but just going to a conference doesn't likely fall into the category of "work" but would you like to be obtuse on something else? What is funny is that I was detained at customs going to Canada before, where I was interrogated about "work" at a facility there I was going to tour, demanding to know why someone in Canada could not do that "work" even though I kept explaining it was a tour and business meetings, someone in Canada can't tour for me... My consultant was detained for 6 hours waiting for his own consultant company to fax over a company letter on his behalf because mine was not good enough for him. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted September 10, 2025 Report Posted September 10, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Its so pathetic, to watch simps who supported the policies that created this, try to condemn the consequences. Well the government is punishing the people who were compliant to those policies. They no longer support them but the rules haven't been completely changed in practice. Of course you can sympathize with those caught in the middle. Who were stationed in the US for work and then jailed due to a gap in between policies. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Boges Posted September 10, 2025 Author Report Posted September 10, 2025 11 minutes ago, User said: Please share the exact methods of entry into the US you used, if it was a short term VISA, share the specifics of that... and no, it is not a "crime" but it is deportable and your visa can be revoked, but just going to a conference doesn't likely fall into the category of "work" but would you like to be obtuse on something else? What is funny is that I was detained at customs going to Canada before, where I was interrogated about "work" at a facility there I was going to tour, demanding to know why someone in Canada could not do that "work" even though I kept explaining it was a tour and business meetings, someone in Canada can't tour for me... My consultant was detained for 6 hours waiting for his own consultant company to fax over a company letter on his behalf because mine was not good enough for him. I was there on business. I was doing my regular job and meeting with other in hope to grow the business. It didn't dawn on my that I had to pay US taxes or fill out extra paperwork. In this instance these workers had specialized skills and were training American for a very short period of time. Have you seen the documentary American Factory? Probably no because the Obama's were behind it. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9351980/ This type of thing was well documented and why it's required. But I guess in Donald Trump's America, that kind of thing isn't welcome anymore. Good luck getting more investment in US manufacturing. Quote
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