gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Obama never said there was direct vote manipulation. Bullshit. That's a completely stùpid standard. Obama made the intelligence officers rewrite the intelligence to fit a narrative. He didnt have to give a speech saying Russia helped Trump. All he had to do was have the CIA write it up and the FBI leak it. Then, when the Senate did their own research they would see the fake report and assume it was valid. It wasn't. The Senate Intelligence report was wrong because our own intelligence services fed them a lie. Do you get how big of a deal that is? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 Now that I think about it: Obama changed the intelligence report The CIA let the FBI leak it to reporters The FBI used it to get a warrant to spy on Trump (Side bar: they blackmailed Flynn by claiming they'd throw his son in jail) They created a Senate Intelligence report based on the faked intelligence Then they tried to impeach Trump There is no way that Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and Harry Reid did not know what was going on. They colluded to over throw an election. Arrest them all. Put them on trial. No bail! They are flight risks. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Michael Hardner Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: You don't have an ounce of credibility ^here, just PARTISAN HACKERY. And Trump's campaign manager Manafort was directly colluding with Russian agents (Kilimnik) to gain Russian aid for the campaign per the Senate Intel Committee Report. Cite: The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34] On May 13, 2020, Manafort was released to home confinement due to the threat of COVID-19.[35] On December 23, 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump pardoned Manafort.[36][37][38] Last sentence is key. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 10 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Cite: The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34] On May 13, 2020, Manafort was released to home confinement due to the threat of COVID-19.[35] On December 23, 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump pardoned Manafort.[36][37][38] Last sentence is key. Yep, Trump kept Manafort from flipping ON HIM by dangling the PARDON. Meanwhile Manafort was probably still collecting his salary from oligarch Oleg Deripaska. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: Far from it. Putin's PUBLIC DECLARATION is just ADDITIONAL EVIDENCE HE was behind the Russian collusion and it wasn't just ROGUE AGENTS. Duh You're exceptionally dishonest or stupid today. That's not evidence of anything more than one guy's preference. And if Podesta is that stupid...ya gits but ya pays fer. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: Yep, Trump kept Manafort from flipping ON HIM by dangling the PARDON. Meanwhile Manafort was probably still collecting his salary from oligarch Oleg Deripaska. https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin Trump's net disapproval is heading into record territory. Last time this happened, he improved it by mass arresting Mexicans who had outstanding parking tickets. Anyone's guess as to to what will happen next... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Trump's net disapproval is heading into record territory. Last time this happened, he improved it by mass arresting Mexicans who had outstanding parking tickets. Anyone's guess as to to what will happen next... "Mexicans" would be arrested for being here ILLEGALLY, not for outstanding parking tickets. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-silver-bulletin Trump's net disapproval is heading into record territory. Last time this happened, he improved it by mass arresting Mexicans who had outstanding parking tickets. Anyone's guess as to to what will happen next... A little more than parking tickets but ... It's a hot-button issue. Of course he'll keep it up...and increase his agency's efforts. Wanna bet it works...if he does that? Edited July 20, 2025 by Nationalist 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 11 minutes ago, Nationalist said: That's not evidence of anything more than one guy's preference. And if Podesta is that stupid...ya gits but ya pays fer. Putin is NOT just "one guy." You're going for the record on dishonest or stupid today. Hacking stupid is still illegal, but you don't care about crimes when they're serving your ILLEGAL DISHONEST AGENDA. 🤮 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: Putin is NOT just "one guy." You're going for the record on dishonest or stupid today. Hacking stupid is still illegal, but you don't care about crimes when they're serving your ILLEGAL DISHONEST AGENDA. 🤮 You are in no position to lecture anyone about dishonesty. Neither are you... @Michael Hardner 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You are in no position to lecture anyone about dishonesty. Neither are you... @Michael Hardner You're saying that I am more dishonest than Trump? 🤭 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 9 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: You're saying that I am more dishonest than Trump? 🤭 More? No. Regularly engaged in dishonesty? Yes. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: More? No. Regularly engaged in dishonesty? Yes. So I can count on your vote then! 😅 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 1 minute ago, Michael Hardner said: So I can count on your vote then! 😅 Depends... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 40 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You are in no position to lecture anyone about dishonesty. Too bad you have ZERO EVIDENCE of ^this. Right after YOU CLAIMED: 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: That's not evidence of anything more than one guy's preference. And if Podesta is that stupid...ya gits but ya pays fer. about Putin. LMAO Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Cite: The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34] On May 13, 2020, Manafort was released to home confinement due to the threat of COVID-19.[35] On December 23, 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump pardoned Manafort.[36][37][38] Last sentence is key. And they based that conclusion, largely, on the faked intelligence set forth by Obama. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Too bad you have ZERO EVIDENCE of ^this. Right after YOU CLAIMED: about Putin. LMAO Hmmm...tell me again how Trump "colluded" with Russia. Tell me all about how Brandon couldn't close the border. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Hmmm...tell me again how Trump "colluded" with Russia. Trump campaign manager Manafort shared private polling data with Russian agent Kilimnik. Do you understand why he did that? There were other things I'm sure. Read the Senate report, doofus. 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Tell me all about how Brandon couldn't close the border. Biden CHOSE to obey the law in an attempt to get Congress to change it with comprehensive border reform. Duh I guess he could have just broken the law like your hero Trump did. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Cite: The Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committee concluded in August 2020 that Manafort's ties to individuals connected to Russian intelligence while he was Trump's campaign manager "represented a grave counterintelligence threat" by creating opportunities for "Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump campaign."[34] On May 13, 2020, Manafort was released to home confinement due to the threat of COVID-19.[35] On December 23, 2020, U.S. President Donald Trump pardoned Manafort.[36][37][38] Last sentence is key. But did you read what you posted? They didn't find that he had done anything wrong or that any influence have been achieved. Only that it created an opportunity for that to happen at some point. Also, what confidential information regarding the campaign could there possibly be that trump wouldn't be allowed to share if he wanted to So in other words all is proves is that once again the Russians did not have any influence with trump and trump didn't do anything wrong and the concern here was about the possibility of something happening rather than something having happened 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Nationalist Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 19 minutes ago, robosmith said: Trump campaign manager Manafort shared private polling data with Russian agent Kilimnik. Do you understand why he did that? There were other things I'm sure. Read the Senate report, doofus. Biden CHOSE to obey the law in an attempt to get Congress to change it with comprehensive border reform. Duh I guess he could have just broken the law like your hero Trump did. I have no idea why he shared the all important polling data. Frankly that whole thing was chickenshit. Executive orders are not against the law. Grow up. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I have no idea why he shared the all important polling data. Frankly that whole thing was chickenshit. The polling data served to identify the TARGETS that needed Russian assistance. Duh 12 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Executive orders are not against the law. Grow up. They aren't license to violate the LAW much less the Constitution. Grow up. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: The polling data served to identify the TARGETS that needed Russian assistance. Duh How? It showed he was winning. Duh! 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
gatomontes99 Posted July 20, 2025 Report Posted July 20, 2025 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted July 21, 2025 Report Posted July 21, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, robosmith said: The polling data served to identify the TARGETS that needed Russian assistance. Duh They aren't license to violate the LAW much less the Constitution. Grow up. It was POLLING DATA! Give it a rest. The POTUS can close the border. Again...give it a rest. 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: I saw that this morning and she'd better do it. Edited July 21, 2025 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
gatomontes99 Posted July 21, 2025 Report Posted July 21, 2025 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I saw that this morning and she'd better do it. Old guard Reps would never do it. But Maga Reps? It might be game on. If you come at the king, you better not miss. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
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