eyeball Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 There are literally billions of racist terrorist supporting anti-Semites dissing Israel nowadays. Canada and 23 other countries slam Israel over Gaza, say war ‘must end now’ https://www.nbcnews.com/world/gaza/israel-gaza-war-uk-canada-joint-statement-ceasefire-rcna220100 Einstein would be proud of us for sure. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 22, 2025 Author Report Posted July 22, 2025 1 hour ago, eyeball said: There are literally billions of racist terrorist supporting anti-Semites dissing Israel nowadays. Is that why you hate Jews? Or do you just support the terrorists and don't care all that much who they slaughter as long as they're civilians? You've been quite clear. You don't have a beef with Israel's policy, you hate Israel and the Jews and feel they deserve to die and that hamas was exercising its human rights as you put it to kill Jewish civilians Sorry kid. Not the same thing Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 On 7/17/2025 at 7:02 PM, CdnFox said: Ontario teacher calls 6-year-old Jewish student half human | National Post I'm sure it's no shock but you hatred is absolutely rampant in the Ontario school system and Ontario colleges and universities. And it hasn't stopped there, because of the fact that the federal government has accepted and promoted that kind of thing and refused to try and shut down any groups who are anti-Semitic it is now becoming embedded in many government institutions across Canada Imagine a teacher calling a kid half human because he's Jewish. That's the left's legacy today. It is a fact antisemitism is on the rise, just like Islamophobia was on the rise after 9/11. It’s dishonest to say the government has accepted and promoted this behaviour. It’s also dishonest to imply as many do that criticism of Israeli government policies or actions is antisemitism. What I also find interesting is that the incident in the headline happened almost a year ago and is barely mentioned in the article. Yet it’a the headline of the article. Regular and routine columns denouncing antisemitism, (and for that matter Islamophobia, or any form of racism or bigotry etc) are fine and good but the author is pulling a bait-and-switch with that headline. Quote
eyeball Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 11 hours ago, CdnFox said: Sorry kid. Not the same thing I don't know who you're apologizing for having labelled billions of people including Einstein, as anti-Semites for disagreeing with Israel's treatment of Palestinians - call it a legacy of hard-boiled rightwing conservatism I guess. Good job BTW. You guys are really good at dragging out the worst crises facing the planet. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 22, 2025 Author Report Posted July 22, 2025 Just now, eyeball said: I don't know who you're apologizing for I didn't apologize for anybody. Are you still having comprehension problems with English structure above grade six or is this you trying to lie to change the channel because you know you're wrong? Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between your stupidity and your deceitfulness Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 47 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I didn't apologize for anybody. Then why did you say sorry kid? If you're simply apologizing to me then, sure kid, I accept your surrender. 48 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Are you still having comprehension problems with English structure above grade six or is this you trying to lie to change the channel because you know you're wrong? Sometimes it's hard to distinguish between your stupidity and your deceitfulness LMAO! Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 22, 2025 Author Report Posted July 22, 2025 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Then why did you say sorry kid? Because I'm sorry that you have to live with your own stupidity being rubbed in your face. It must be painful to have your dishonesty and support of terrorism exposed. "Sorry" doesn't imply guilt. It just means i wish things were different for you. They're not. (there was actually cases in canadian law about this) I keep forgetting you only have grade school englinsh. 2 hours ago, eyeball said: f you're simply apologizing to me then, sure kid, I accept your surrender. No no, it's just pity. I feel sorry for you sometimes. I would HATE to have to be you and live thinking like that. Quote LMAO! Ahhh your usual admission of defeat I accept your Capitulation. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
suds Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Einstein was also a rabid anti-Semite. He described Zionists as being like the Nazis. I haven't even gone that far but according to the bozos around here I might as well have been over there raping Jewish kids myself on Oct 7. Not in right-wing conservatives minds. In Einstein's case they sinply deny he ever said anything against Israel. It's just fake history. Yes, he did refer to Zionists as Nazis in reference to the Deir Yassin massacre. So since we agree on that let's move on from there and see what else he says. Einstein publicly stated reservations about the proposal to partition Mandatory Palestine into independent Arab and Jewish countries. In a 1938 speech, "Our Debt to Zionism", he said: I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. My awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power, no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain—especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight strongly, even without a Jewish state. ... If external necessity should after all compel us to assume this burden, let us bear it with tact and patience. His attitudes were nuanced: In his testimony before the Anglo-American Committee of Inquiry in January 1946, Einstein stated that he was not in favor of the creation of a Jewish state, while in a 1947 letter to Indian Prime Minister Jawaharlal Nehru intended to persuade India to support Zionist aims of establishing a Jewish homeland in Palestine, Einstein stated that the Balfour Declaration's proposal to establish a national home for Jews in Palestine "redresses the balance" of justice and history, claiming that "at the end of the first world war, the Allies gave the Arabs 99% of the vast, underpopulated territories liberated from the Turks to satisfy their national aspirations and five independent Arab states were established. One percent was reserved for the Jews in the land of their origin".[37] Einstein remained strongly supportive of unlimited Jewish immigration to Palestine.[38][39] In 1949 Einstein wrote in a letter to The Hebrew University of Jerusalem that this period is "the fulfillment of our dreams", but that he regrets that "we were compelled by the adversities of our situation to assert our rights through force of arms; it was the only way to avert complete annihilation". He also expressed the hope that "the wisdom and moderation the leaders of the new state have shown" will gradually lead to "cooperation and mutual respect" with the Arab people. Before his death he wrote an unfinished draft. In the draft he speaks about the dangers facing Israel and says “It is anomalous that world opinion should only criticize Israel’s response to hostility and should not actively seek to bring an end to the Arab hostility which is the root cause of the tension." Quote
suds Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 6 hours ago, BeaverFever said: It is a fact antisemitism is on the rise, just like Islamophobia was on the rise after 9/11. It’s dishonest to say the government has accepted and promoted this behaviour. It’s also dishonest to imply as many do that criticism of Israeli government policies or actions is antisemitism. If it's dishonest then what have they done to try and stop it? And if it's only a question of Israeli government policies, why do so many Jews and Jewish institutions in Canada feel threatened? Quote
eyeball Posted July 22, 2025 Report Posted July 22, 2025 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: I accept your Capitulation. Sorry kid, but you surrendered first. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 22, 2025 Author Report Posted July 22, 2025 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sorry kid, but you surrendered first. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 1 hour ago, suds said: If it's dishonest then what have they done to try and stop it? Well we have hate speech and hate crime laws (which conservatives otherwise oppose if they’re used against anyone except Jewish people) and people who break them get arrested 1 hour ago, suds said: And if it's only a question of Israeli government policies, why do so many Jews and Jewish institutions in Canada feel threatened? I never said “it’s only a question of Israeli government policies”. Hate crimes are real and are happening against Jewish people. What’s dishonest is suggesting that any criticism or protest of Israel is a antisemitism or a hate crime. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 23, 2025 Author Report Posted July 23, 2025 3 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Well we have hate speech and hate crime laws (which conservatives otherwise oppose if they’re used against anyone except Jewish people) and people who break them get arrested That's almost wrong across the board. Conservative support hate speech, but they don't support is what hate speech has been defined as now. It used to be calls for illegal activities against specific groups and now if you say somebody who's a biological male is a biological male it hates speech. And recently there's been a ton of hate speech coming from Palestinians and not a lot of arrests. So people who make them don't get arrested Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
BeaverFever Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's almost wrong across the board. Conservative support hate speech, but they don't support is what hate speech has been defined as now. It used to be calls for illegal activities against specific groups and now if you say somebody who's a biological male is a biological male it hates speech. And recently there's been a ton of hate speech coming from Palestinians and not a lot of arrests. So people who make them don't get arrested Conservatives support hate speech? That might be the most honest thing you’ve ever said 😂 They have been denouncing hate speech laws since they first came out decades ago. People get arrested when they can be identified, a quick google is full of headlines of people being arrested for antisemitic speech and acts. But more importantly the liberal government doesn’t control local law enforcement so any suggestion that the liberals are to blame would be nonsense. Edited July 23, 2025 by BeaverFever Quote
Barquentine Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 19 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Conservative support hate speech Thanks for summing up the conservative right. Quote
CdnFox Posted July 23, 2025 Author Report Posted July 23, 2025 17 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Conservatives support hate speech? That might be the most honest thing you’ve ever said 😂 Very funny Was supposed to say support hate speech laws of course I Really should proof read more. Not gonna but really should. Quote They have been denouncing hate speech laws since they first came out decades ago. Who did? Where? Show me that. Like I said, they may take issue with what constitutes hate speech for conservatives don't have a problem with hate speech laws for real hate speech at all. Once again you're making crap up When they have a problem is because misgendering someone represents hate speech, or saying that there's only two genders represents hate speech 20 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: People get arrested when they can be identified, No they don't. Lots of times they don't. Sorry, you're just absolutely wrong. The law is enforced extremely selectively Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 16 minutes ago, CdnFox said: I Really should proof read more. Not gonna but really should. You should work on simply reading before moving on to proof reading. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
eyeball Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 5 hours ago, suds said: Yes, he did refer to Zionists as Nazis in reference to the Deir Yassin massacre. So since we agree on that let's move on from there and see what else he says. That's okay I agree with just about everything else he has to say on the matter but I do take issue with this. "It is anomalous that world opinion should only criticize Israel’s response to hostility and should not actively seek to bring an end to the Arab hostility which is the root cause of the tension." I think he missed seeing how a lot of Israeli hostility contributing to the tension would eventually come to pass. Decades of settler violence in the West Bank for example not to mention the maltreatment of thousands of Palestinian detainees, most of whom are held without charge. Palestinians have a right to resist that is no different than the right Israel has to defend itself. It's a two way street. My citing Einstein's views is to simply challenge the equation of any criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism that is not just at the root of support for Israel but is now it's raison de etre. Meanwhile real anti-Semites are gaining a stronger presence and respectability in the ascendancy of far-right groups and parties gaining traction throughout much of the west. You also pointed out that Einstein regretted that; "we were compelled by the adversities of our situation to assert our rights through force of arms; it was the only way to avert complete annihilation". I've pointed out that one of the worst compulsive adversities was the strong desire amongst so many Western countries, including Canada, to refuse Jewish European refugees and instead direct them to Palestine. It's too bad Einstein didn't or couldn't have said more about that before he died. AFAIC both sides in this awful conflict got a rotten deal due to the anti-Semitism that pervaded the view of so many of Israel's supporters. There could indeed have been other ways to avert complete annihilation not to mention a disaster that's still unfolding with no end in sight. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 23, 2025 Author Report Posted July 23, 2025 3 hours ago, eyeball said: You should work on simply reading before moving on to proof reading. This from the man who eats a good book at least once a month people here including me regularly have to explain to you how english works. Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 9 minutes ago, CdnFox said: people here including me regularly have to explain to you how english works You should try figuring it out yourselves first. Btw, the word English is always capitalized. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 23, 2025 Author Report Posted July 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: You should try figuring it out yourselves first. Apparently you didn't understand what I said. Oops, it's happening to you again Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Army Guy Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 On 7/22/2025 at 2:10 PM, eyeball said: I don't know who you're apologizing for having labelled billions of people including Einstein, as anti-Semites for disagreeing with Israel's treatment of Palestinians - call it a legacy of hard-boiled rightwing conservatism I guess. Good job BTW. You guys are really good at dragging out the worst crises facing the planet. Your calling the treatment of terrorist the worst crises facing the planet....i thought it was how we treated LGBTQ people or climate crisses, or how our nation is so broken.......i wish you guys would make up your minds... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
eyeball Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 4 minutes ago, Army Guy said: Your calling the treatment of terrorist the worst crises facing the planet... No, that's what the caricature of me that lives in your head says. Stop listening to it and pay attention to me instead. 6 minutes ago, Army Guy said: i thought it was how we treated LGBTQ people or climate crisses, or how our nation is so broken.......i wish you guys would make up your minds... You don't really treat LGBTQ people any differently than the way you treat virtually everyone you believe is out to get you. Climate change people want to get your money...COVID people want to get your freedom... You just treat them all as lefties. 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted July 23, 2025 Author Report Posted July 23, 2025 36 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, that's what the caricature of me that lives in your head says. That's what you say every single time somebody accurately describes you Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
eyeball Posted July 23, 2025 Report Posted July 23, 2025 27 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's what you say every single time somebody accurately describes you Yeah but I'm also a liar so...nothing ever scans how you think...especially you. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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