Trump says he will impose 50% tariff on copper (canada exports billions worth of copper to us)

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

Apparently most our copper exports don’t go to the US anyway.

British Columbia's doesn't and we're the biggest. But it will affect Ontario unfortunately, seems that Ontario is catching the brunt of all of this stuff

[Barquentine]

16 hours ago, CdnFox said:

the way Carney's going the us is going to come here first?

Sounds like wishful thinking. You can move with him, be room-mates since you're of the same ilk. (And since you're 2 good-looking white guys, ICE won't bother you, unless they think you're gay.)

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[I am Groot]

On 7/8/2025 at 5:41 PM, CdnFox said:

I have to say this game is a bit of a surprise. It seemed like there were a larger issues. He's doing it globally so I'm not sure it's much of a negotiating tactic.

Trump does not like to lose. And to him, if any country has a trade surplus with the US, that means the US is losing. So the only thing left to do is accuse them of cheating and call them names and punish them. This is not helping the US. It's entirely counterproductive. Not only does it increase the input costs for US manufacturers, it angers other nations, many of them US allies or those the US has been hoping to make allies. When the US slaps big tariffs on other countries, they start looking for other trading partners. China is the most obvious. Even Australia has turned to China after the US slapped tariffs on imports from them because... because... just because. 

Everyone is cheating. Everyone except the US, of course, at least according to the puffy-faced orange man. So punishing them with tariffs is only 'right'. Except those who are 'punished' for doing nothing get angry and resentful. The US is rapidly becoming the most despised country in the world, even among Western countries. Trump slapped 50% tariffs on Brazil the other day because he doesn't like how they've treated a former president. China is already Brazil's top trading partner. Expect that relationship to grow closer.  

The US has no choice but to buy copper abroad. All this latest idiocy does is increase the costs for US manufacturers. But Trump doesn't understand economics or business, or really much of anything. He's the dumbest man every to set foot in the White House, and that includes the cooks and busboys.

 

 

Edited July 10, 2025 by I am Groot

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Trump does not like to lose. And to him, if any country has a trade surplus with the US, that means the US is losing. So the only thing left to do is accuse them of cheating and call them names and punish them. This is not helping the US. It's entirely counterproductive. Not only does it increase the input costs for US manufacturers, it angers other nations, many of them US allies or those the US has been hoping to make allies. When the US slaps big tariffs on other countries, they start looking for other trading partners. China is the most obvious. Even Australia has turned to China after the US slapped tariffs on imports from them because... because... just because. 

Everyone is cheating. Everyone except the US, of course, at least according to the puffy-faced orange man. So punishing them with tariffs is only 'right'. Except those who are 'punished' for doing nothing get angry and resentful. The US is rapidly becoming the most despised country in the world, even among Western countries. Trump slapped 50% tariffs on Brazil the other day because he doesn't like how they've treated a former president. China is already Brazil's top trading partner. Expect that relationship to grow closer.  

The US has no choice but to buy copper abroad. All this latest idiocy does is increase the costs for US manufacturers. But Trump doesn't understand economics or business, or really much of anything. He's the dumbest man every to set foot in the White House, and that includes the cooks and busboys.

 

 

That's all true, but my point is why copper? I mean like you say the US is at Max Capacity for its copper production already and has to import it. 

I would have thought there are other choices where they could do that kind of harm but not necessarily hurt the us as much.  

Part of me wonders if we have underestimated his need for cash. He seems to be putting large tariffs on various different things and then switching them around and it makes me wonder if he's trying to milk those imports for as much cash as he can get for as long as he can get and then stop before it actually does real permanent damage to that industry. He may be looking at this as some sort of hope away to put a serious bite in his deficits or something.

Like maybe he thinks if he taxes copper for 3 months he can make couple dozen billion from it and then drop that particular tariff before the electronics industry really suffers

This guy is going to wind up putting their american people into a recession if he doesn't smarten up relatively soon.

[herbie]

The Mango M0ron even tweeted how vital copper is to US National Security, and then goes on to threaten to increase its price 50%
The USA can't produce enough on its own at this time and it will take years to build up to the point that it can. Once again, the fool fails to understand this fact. If he wants the US to produce more things it would be more effective to give incentives to do so rather than threats and punishment. But an egotistic arsehole that thinks the number of people you fire is a sign of how good a manager you are simply can't understand that concept.

He is actually crippling national security with this latest threat.

[LinkSoul60]

Not sure if it's my eyes or a colour change in my TV, but have noticed in the past week or so the tint of his make-up has gone to more of a 'copper-like' tone.  Maybe putting tariffs on copper now was just a subliminal reaction?

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not sure if it's my eyes or a colour change in my TV, but have noticed in the past week or so the tint of his make-up has gone to more of a 'copper-like' tone.  Maybe putting tariffs on copper now was just a subliminal reaction?

Well obviously that's bat crap crazy .... but it is trump so i don't want to take it off the table just yet.... 

[WestCanMan]

22 hours ago, CdnFox said:

It doesn't help when he follows it up with "There's No Business case for selling natural gas "

His knowledge of economics is akin to the avg leftard's knowledge of heterosexual intercourse.

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, Barquentine said:

I don't get it. You hate it here and want to be an American. Why haven't you moved yet? We don't have a wall on our southern border. Go! Don't delay! Buy a Maga hat and some Trump perfume and you'll be in hog-heaven!

I like the area that I live in, and I like democracy.

I want the area I live in to be part of a healthy democracy, and it's not even close.

The quickest way to get to that is to have the US take us over.  

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

I like the area that I live in, and I like democracy.

I want the area I live in to be part of a healthy democracy, and it's not even close.

The quickest way to get to that is to have the US take us over.  

Last I heard Langley/BC/Canada was a democracy.  For the umpteenth time, because your preferred choice didn't win it does not mean we don't have a democracy.

No, far quicker if you just pack up and move to the US.  You're not far from the border so give it a try.....  👉

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Last I heard Langley/BC/Canada was a democracy.  For the umpteenth time, because your preferred choice didn't win it does not mean we don't have a democracy.

No, far quicker if you just pack up and move to the US.  You're not far from the border so give it a try.....  👉

A healthy democracy has a healthy media, and the judiciary is run without gov't interference. 

When your democracy is run by a guy who gives $1B to his friends and gets caught with both hands in the cookie jar, but the media and judiciary just give him the "swell guy" treatment, you're using the word democracy wrong. 

When your democracy forces people to take injections that don't work as advertised, are dangerous, and confer no benefit to the patient, you're using the word democracy wrong. 

[LinkSoul60]

1 minute ago, WestCanMan said:

A healthy democracy has a healthy media, and the judiciary is run without gov't interference. 

When your democracy is run by a guy who gives $1B to his friends and gets caught with both hands in the cookie jar, but the media and judiciary just give him the "swell guy" treatment, you're using the word democracy wrong. 

When your democracy forces people to take injections that don't work as advertised, are dangerous, and confer no benefit to the patient, you're using the word democracy wrong. 

A democracy is ruled by the people, who have spoken.

Take 176 to the truck crossing, and keep going....  👉

[WestCanMan]

15 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

A democracy is ruled by the people, who have spoken.

Take 176 to the truck crossing, and keep going....  👉

So you're saying that a healthy media isn't part of a healthy democracy? 

FYI ballots in NoKo get handed in, just like they do here. Are you telling me that NoKo is a healthy democracy? 

Would you agree with the following statement: "Kim Jung-Un is the duly elected leader of the North Korean people"?

There's no room in your argument to state that KJU isn't legit. 

Edited July 10, 2025 by WestCanMan

[LinkSoul60]

55 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So you're saying that a healthy media isn't part of a healthy democracy? 

FYI ballots in NoKo get handed in, just like they do here. Are you telling me that NoKo is a healthy democracy? 

Would you agree with the following statement: "Kim Jung-Un is the duly elected leader of the North Korean people"?

There's no room in your argument to state that KJU isn't legit. 

There are a lot of media choices available.  If you don't like CBC, find something else.

You're skirting the point.....   if it's that bad for you in Canada, leave.  Life's too short to be b*tching about the same thing every day.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

A democracy is ruled by the people, who have spoken.

Take 176 to the truck crossing, and keep going....  👉

A democracy does not give carte Blanche for the government to do whatever it likes. This isn't a dictatorship with a vote every 4 years

I think you've mistaken Canada for north Korea which also claims to be a democracy.

Are current leadership has a minority. Which means the people spoke and said they don't trust him to run things by himself

It's always amazing with you on the left, when your guy wins it's absolute power the people have spoken you're not allowed to have another opinion besides the government opinion and when the other side wins it's the exact opposite.

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

A democracy does not give carte Blanche for the government to do whatever it likes. This isn't a dictatorship with a vote every 4 years

I think you've mistaken Canada for north Korea which also claims to be a democracy.

Are current leadership has a minority. Which means the people spoke and said they don't trust him to run things by himself

It's always amazing with you on the left, when your guy wins it's absolute power the people have spoken you're not allowed to have another opinion besides the government opinion and when the other side wins it's the exact opposite.

People can and absolutely should have opinions of our country, and vote for that opinion/s. That's what a democracy is.

I need no analogy of Canada and NK, and I don't care about left or right....  my point is that if you're having difficulty coping with our just recent election results and are disgusted with our country, leave if it's that bad for you.  B*tching about the same thing day in and day out is not productive, and doesn't lend itself to people listening for too long.  

Maybe you can hitch a ride with westcanman if there's room?

[herbie]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Not sure if it's my eyes or a colour change in my TV, but have noticed in the past week or so the tint of his make-up has gone to more of a 'copper-like' tone.  Maybe putting tariffs on copper now was just a subliminal reaction?

He added more tin in the mix, the Bronze Buffoon did.

[herbie]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

A healthy democracy has a healthy media, and the judiciary is run without gov't interference.

Quotes the definition and immediately forgets it making up his own definition.....

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

People can and absolutely should have opinions of our country, and vote for that opinion/s. That's what a democracy is.

Well no, a democracy such as ours is where people choose a leader to represent them for their riding. The party that has the most seats generally speaking gets to form government and while it is expected that they will move forward on the agenda that they ran on it is also expected that they will respect the fact that other people had different opinions and try and incorporate them as well. All of the people elected regardless of which party will work to represent the people and all of the voices are valid

You seem to feel that If one party gets the most seats even if it's a minority that party is somehow now god or king and can do whatever they like. You're making trump sound like someone who cooperates a lot   

And that's not the way it is. The fact that someone gains the most seats does not mean that they are in a position to ignore the votes or the representatives of the other people

34 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I need no analogy of Canada and NK, and I don't care about left or right.

It sounds like both of those statements are untrue.

35 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

my point is that if you're having difficulty coping with our just recent election results and are disgusted with our country, leave if it's that bad for you.

So you really are like North Korea and the left  If there's opposition silence it quickly! Don't allow people to have their own voice! HOW DAAAARE YOU QUESTION THE GREAT LEADER!!!!!   

It's always perfectly valid to complain or question or call into doubt the leadership. Even if you voted for them in fact and that happens fairly often with the right, tho not so much with the more tribal left. 

Democracy doesn't mean you only get a voice once every 4 years and in between shut up and do what you're told. It is a job of every Canadian to hold the government to account in between elections. It is entirely useful and appropriate and expected for people to Question, complain, criticize and comment on the government on a regular basis

This is even more true when it's a minority. There is a very real chance that a 2026 we're going to be back to the polls and discussing the performance of the government between now and then is vital.

I think you need to sit down and really rethink your ideas on democracy. This government's mandate is not absolute and it is absolutely appropriate to question them regularly that would be the case for any government.

 

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well no, a democracy such as ours is where people choose a leader to represent them for their riding. The party that has the most seats generally speaking gets to form government and while it is expected that they will move forward on the agenda that they ran on it is also expected that they will respect the fact that other people had different opinions and try and incorporate them as well. All of the people elected regardless of which party will work to represent the people and all of the voices are valid

You seem to feel that If one party gets the most seats even if it's a minority that party is somehow now god or king and can do whatever they like. You're making trump sound like someone who cooperates a lot   

And that's not the way it is. The fact that someone gains the most seats does not mean that they are in a position to ignore the votes or the representatives of the other people

It sounds like both of those statements are untrue.

So you really are like North Korea and the left  If there's opposition silence it quickly! Don't allow people to have their own voice! HOW DAAAARE YOU QUESTION THE GREAT LEADER!!!!!   

It's always perfectly valid to complain or question or call into doubt the leadership. Even if you voted for them in fact and that happens fairly often with the right, tho not so much with the more tribal left. 

Democracy doesn't mean you only get a voice once every 4 years and in between shut up and do what you're told. It is a job of every Canadian to hold the government to account in between elections. It is entirely useful and appropriate and expected for people to Question, complain, criticize and comment on the government on a regular basis

This is even more true when it's a minority. There is a very real chance that a 2026 we're going to be back to the polls and discussing the performance of the government between now and then is vital.

I think you need to sit down and really rethink your ideas on democracy. This government's mandate is not absolute and it is absolutely appropriate to question them regularly that would be the case for any government.

 

You talk a lot, but listen too little.  I said what I said, you interpret and make assumptions as you choose.

Questioning is fine, my comment to westcanman, and I'll include you, is that it's not questioning....it's flat out b*tching and being a partisan hack. Very little said has to do with fact or reality....it's just complaining about 'leftards'.  Surely you can understand getting out of a place if it makes you believe it's gone to the shits and makes you unhappy, can't you...?

[Army Guy]

On 7/9/2025 at 5:50 PM, Barquentine said:

I don't get it. You hate it here and want to be an American. Why haven't you moved yet? We don't have a wall on our southern border. Go! Don't delay! Buy a Maga hat and some Trump perfume and you'll be in hog-heaven!

think taxes are high for just living here try and leave and see what Canada strips from you....

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You talk a lot, but listen too little.  

Oh yes, your usual whining and insults the moment you're proven wrong. And your sad attempts to rewrite what you said when you're busted. 

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 I said what I said, you interpret and make assumptions as you choose.

You literally said the opposite of what I said. This isn't an interpretation thing, you said rather than complaining he should leave the country.

37 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Questioning is fine, my comment to westcanman, and I'll include you, is that it's not questioning

No, I did not say simply questioning, I said Question, complain, criticize and comment on the government on a regular basis

And that is exactly what is going on here and is absolutely 100% appropriate in a free democracy.

And rather than allow that you want him to leave the country or shut up

38 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Surely you can understand getting out of a place if it makes you believe it's gone to the shits and makes you unhappy, can't you...?

No. And anyone who does would be better off somewhere like North Korea. 

What men and women in free societies do is if they don't like how the society is going they bring the problems to the attention of everyone else and then with like-minded people they seek to make change.

You don't get to tell people to shut up. You don't get to tell people to leave the country. You're nobody. You're  a person who can't even stand beside his own words without having to try and rewrite them 30 seconds later and pretend he didn't say what he said. So maybe you don't get it.  

You need to develop a respect for freedom and democracy. Right now it's clear you have No understanding or respect for either.

[Barquentine]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I want the area I live in to be part of a healthy democracy, and it's not even close.

The quickest way to get to that is to have the US take us over. 

The US is an authoritarian state now. The Republican majority  will never stand up to Trump, and a backward right wing Supreme court will let him do almost everything he wants to. As close to a dictatorship as you can get.

[LinkSoul60]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You don't get to tell people to shut up. You don't get to tell people to leave the country.

Sure I do, I just did and will do it again....  If you're so down on Canada because it's a terrible country, then leave.

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You need to develop a respect for freedom and democracy

That's actually funny...  You're one who doesn't think we have a 'real' democracy because of the supposed unfair election.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Sure I do, I just did and will do it again....

 

No you don't. You can say it, but  you don't get to tell anyone anything. You can run your mouth but you just make yourself look like a twat.  I'm sure you THINK you do  

You're a tiny little loser of a man who means nothing. You can't even stand by your own statements for more than two posts before you have to rewrite them because you realize you look like a child.  You don't get to tell anybody anything. You can talk all you want but in the end it's just noise.

 

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 If you're so down on Canada because it's a terrible country, then leave.

Nope. We'll just correct the problems and swing things in favour of how we see the world, seeing as you're ok with that kind of democracy   Just like they did in the states. You think that's not going to come to Canada? Wait and see

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That's actually funny...  You're one who doesn't think we have a 'real' democracy because of the supposed unfair election.

You're the one that thinks we shouldn't have a real democracy And that anyone who disagrees with you should leave.

Admitting that our democracy has a problem is something that an adult would do. Trying to tell people to leave is something a leftist child would do.  

It's nothing we can't fix. Although I doubt you'll like the fix