User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 16 minutes ago, TreeBeard said: They’re in a country trending towards fascist tendencies. If you don’t want to take a chance, then the solution is to leave. 82,000 Canadians travel to the US daily, some 6+ million trips yearly... Tell us, what percentage of that is 55? The solution is to have valid visa and not break immigration laws. Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: It appears he was on probation and did not violate any conditions of his probation. So he was arrested and imprisoned illegally. No, wrong again. Once he broke the law as he did, his legal status was revoked and he was facing lawful deportation proceedings. So, no, he was not arrested or imprisoned illegally. 1 Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 48 minutes ago, blackbird said: Of course it was illegal to arrest him. He was a permanent resident for 34 years. He was on probation but following the conditions of his probation. So he was arbitrarily arrested because of something in his past record, not his present behavior or situation. Being a lawful permanent resident doesn't make you immune from deportation. He broke the law. It doesn't matter what the conditions of his probation were or were not. Breaking the law like this is grounds for deportation and removal. Nothing arbitrary about his arrest and the fact that Biden didn't give a shit about deporting criminal thugs like this is not an excuse for Trump to do the same. "On Oct. 12, 2023, he was convicted in Volusia County for racketeering, trafficking in Oxycodone 7-14 Grams, trafficking in illegal drugs 4 to 14 Grams, trafficking in Hydrocodone, and unlawful use two-way communication device facilitate commission of crime and sentenced to 12 months in prison. " https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/canadian-national-ice-custody-passes-away Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Lol...cry me a river Limpy. ^NACO. Nat-girl always chickens out. Quote
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: We don't have precrime. He was arrested to be deported. He likely lost his residency status because of his crime for which he was convicted. So, I provide data indicating your presumption are wrong and that makes the system totalitarian? What a joke. You have nothing that even suggests there was impropriety. Its just you and your assumptions. False. Justice requires evidence for a crime outstanding. If they want to now cancel his permanrnt residence status, they should not arrest him and throw him in prison. He could have been given a notice with time to pack up and leave the country. That would be the civilized way to act. Your supporting treating people like animals shows you are like a wild animal. Edited July 8, 2025 by blackbird Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You are a liar. He was on probation and following the conditions of that. He was not selling drugs to anybody. That means you are lying. His criminal record is legally established. Why are you lying about it? Get a grip man! Repeated LYING is why gato is on ignore. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: And you Limpy. You cry over the expulsion of criminals. That makes you...stupid. Read what I just said to gato. Treat people in a civil way. Grow up. Quote
robosmith Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: And you Limpy. You cry over the expulsion of criminals. That makes you...stupid. And ^you fckwad, have NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW. Just wait until you try to visit the US, canuck. Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^NACO. Nat-girl always chickens out. Says the coward hiding from me that runs away from almost every thread. 6 minutes ago, robosmith said: Repeated LYING is why gato is on ignore. You should ignore yourself. Quote
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 8 minutes ago, blackbird said: False. Justice requires evidence for a crime outstanding. If they want to now cancel his permanrnt residence status, they should not just arrest him and throw him in prison. He could have been given a notice with time to pack up and leave the country. That would be the civized way to act. Your supporting people like animals shows you are like a wild animal. Nope, wrong again. Holding them pending deportation is what allows for much faster due process. These are the dumb games that the last administration and others play to avoid every enforcing immigration laws. No longer. Trump is cleaning up this mess. Civilized people believe in laws that help us remain civil, and you support people breaking those laws to cause choas. Quote
Nationalist Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 42 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^NACO. Nat-girl always chickens out. ^ Goofball. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 40 minutes ago, blackbird said: Read what I just said to gato. Treat people in a civil way. Grow up. I am grown up. In fact I might just retire now. But ya gets wut ya pays fer. If you take silly positions, expect to be called silly names. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I am grown up. In fact I might just retire now. But ya gets wut ya pays fer. If you take silly positions, expect to be called silly names. So if you were just living in the U.S. as a permanent resident for 34 years and were on probation for some offence, but were following all the rules and behaving yourself, and the government decided they wanted to deport everyone like you, why would you think it is reasonable for them to arrest you and throw you in prison until you are forcefully deported? Why not treat people in a civilized manner and just give them a written notice that says their residency is being ended and they have a certain length of time to pack up and leave the country, say 60 days or by a certain date, which seems reasonable? What is the purpose of using masked and armed men to arrest someone and throw them in prison as if they just robbed a bank or killed someone? You need to think this over. Obviously the Trump admin is trying to scare everyone by treating them like s--t. There is no respect for human rights. Edited July 8, 2025 by blackbird Quote
Nationalist Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, robosmith said: And ^you fckwad, have NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW. Just wait until you try to visit the US, canuck. Lol...Tweenkie-poo...I may just move down there. Any houses available in your neighborhood? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: So if you were just living in the U.S. as a permanent resident for 34 years and were on probation for some offence, but were following all the rules and behaving yourself, and the government decided they wanted to deport everyone like you, why would you think it is reasonable for them to arrest you and throw you in prison until you are forcefully deported? Why not treat people in a civilized manner and just give them a written notice that says their residency is being ended and they have a certain length of time to pack up and leave the country, say 60 days or by a certain date, which seems reasonable? What is the purpose of using masked and armed men to arrest someone and throw them in prison as if they just robbed a bank or killed someone? You need to think this over. No I have nothing to think over. The guy was on probation. Had he broken that probation? Either way...if you need someone to blame for this ham-handed approach...here... Blame that dim-wit. What did you think was gonna happen after 12,000,000 unvetted people flooded the USA? The Welcome Mat? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 7 minutes ago, blackbird said: So if you were just living in the U.S. as a permanent resident for 34 years and were on probation for some offence, but were following all the rules and behaving yourself, and the government decided they wanted to deport everyone like you, why would you think it is reasonable for them to arrest you and throw you in prison until you are forcefully deported? It was not just "some offense" and the known law clearly states these types of criminal offenses can result in deporation. You do not have a right to live in America forever with a green card, especially as a law breaker like this. Yet again, here you are defending criminals. Why don't you spend more time advocating for your own country to take in all the criminal thugs of the world. "On Oct. 12, 2023, he was convicted in Volusia County for racketeering, trafficking in Oxycodone 7-14 Grams, trafficking in illegal drugs 4 to 14 Grams, trafficking in Hydrocodone, and unlawful use two-way communication device facilitate commission of crime and sentenced to 12 months in prison. " Quote
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No I have nothing to think over. The guy was on probation. Had he broken that probation? Either way...if you need someone to blame for this ham-handed approach...here... Blame that dim-wit. What did you think was gonna happen after 12,000,000 unvetted people flooded the USA? The Welcome Mat? No, they didn't flood the U.S. during Biden's presidency. They arrived over decades during Dem and Repub administrations. And no, this guy had not broken his probation. Regardless of that, people who are in the U.S. as permanent residences have the legal right to be there and should not be arrested and imprisoned. I already explained that if the admin wants to end some of their residencies, all they have to do is issue written notices ending their time in the U.S. and give them time to pack up and leave. That would be the civilized thing to do. But Trump wants to look like the tough guy to appeal to his MAGA base. So he categorizes everyone as dangerous criminals, which is not a fact. It's his style of politics, which you have swallowed. Edited July 8, 2025 by blackbird 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: No, they didn't flood the U.S. during Biden's presidency. They arrived over decades during Dem and Repub administrations. OK...you're disqualified. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Regardless of that, people who are in the U.S. as permanent residences have the legal right to be there and should not be arrested and imprisoned. You have no understanding of the law and appear to have no desire to either. You just want to support criminals and illegal immigration. No, you do not have a right to be here with a green card. It is a temporary measure that can be revoked for any number of reasons. The guy has has plenty of time to actually request citizenship the proper way, he didn't, he engaged in egregious drug dealing offenses, and now he will be deported. Quote
Deluge Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 4 hours ago, blackbird said: To arrest and imprison people, you have to have evidence that they committed a serious enough crime. There was no evidence of anything. They arrest anybody. Nobody's has any rights. They're here illegally. Remember, ALL illegal aliens are on the table for deportation - Karoline Leavitt voiced that multiple times. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 5 hours ago, blackbird said: False. Justice requires evidence for a crime outstanding. He's convicted! 5 hours ago, blackbird said: If they want to now cancel his permanrnt residence status, they should not arrest him and throw him in prison. They did. 5 hours ago, blackbird said: He could have been given a notice with time to pack up and leave the country. That would be the civilized way to act. They were all given that! Its called CBP 1 app. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 (edited) 10 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: 5 hours ago, blackbird said: He could have been given a notice with time to pack up and leave the country. That would be the civilized way to act. They were all given that! Its called CBP 1 app. No, there is nothing to show he was given written notice and time to move out of the country. That is fiction you made up. The CBP 1 app is for people applying to come INTO the country. It is not for the purpose of moving out of the country. "The free CBP One™ mobile application enables aliens without appropriate documents for admission who seek to travel to the United States through certain southwest border land ports of entry (POEs) the ability to submit information through a module within the application instead of coming directly to wait at a POE." Edited July 8, 2025 by blackbird 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: No, there is nothing to show he was given written notice and time to move out of the country. That is fiction you made up. Prove he didn't. Even if he didn't, so what? He's a convicted felon that also violated our immigration laws. He was exactly who we said would be first to be deported. Get over it. Here: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/26/us/johnny-noviello-ice-death-canada-florida Noviello was arrested by ICE at a probation office on May 15 and issued a notice to appear for removal proceedings, “having been convicted of a violation of any law or regulation … relating to a controlled substance,” ICE said in a news release. Edited July 8, 2025 by gatomontes99 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
blackbird Posted July 8, 2025 Author Report Posted July 8, 2025 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: He's a convicted felon that also violated our immigration laws. He was on probation for that and was not ordered to leave the country. He has permanent residency status since 1991. So how could that be a violation of immigration law?? 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted July 8, 2025 Report Posted July 8, 2025 Just now, blackbird said: He was on probation for that and was not ordered to leave the country. He has permanent residency status since 1991. So how could that be a violation of immigration law?? Yeah, I edited that post to include the news reports that he lost his residency and was issued a notice to appear. You are making shìt up and just hoping it will be true. Newsflash: Your made up shìt is shìt. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
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