Around half of young people in Quebec support sovereignty: poll

[CdnFox]

Around half of young people in Quebec support sovereignty: poll

Looks like we're gonna be going to a new referendum. if the PQ win. And right when we've got a prime minister who really doesn't speak French.

[Moonlight Graham]

Their parents made them grow up in schools that didn't fly the Canadian flag and didn't sing the Canadian National Anthem.  They celebrate La fête nationale du Québec in late June more than they celebrate Canada Day a week later.

They're also too young to remember the economic sh*t-kicking Quebec got after the last referendum when businesses started leaving Quebec, both Canadian and America.  Montreal was once a world-class city

They might need to remove the monarchy to save Canada at this point.

Edited June 28, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Moonlight Graham]

"Just under half of young people aged 18 to 34 in Quebec support the idea of provincial independence, marking a near-20 per cent increase over the past year, according to a new poll by Léger."

WTF.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

"Just under half of young people aged 18 to 34 in Quebec support the idea of provincial independence, marking a near-20 per cent increase over the past year, according to a new poll by Léger."

WTF.

A lot of younger people really don't like the liberals or Carney right now And I doubt that Quebec is much of an exception. 

Separatist sent him it is growing across the country, when it becomes obvious that carney cannot deliver on his promises and people still cannot afford rent or food and we still have problems with too much migration and housing shortages and we're still not competitive with other countries and the US is still tariffing us then it's going to get worse

[WestCanMan]

On 6/26/2025 at 11:31 PM, CdnFox said:

Around half of young people in Quebec support sovereignty: poll

There are two ways to read that:

1. an actual poll, conducted by unicorns, determined that around half of young people in Quebec support sovereignty
2. Quebecers put out a cozy little poll of their own that says exactly what they want it to say because they are going to put another PM over a barrel 

[August1991]

This guy Mamdani explains what is happening.

Trump was first to get it.

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

There are two ways to read that:

1. an actual poll, conducted by unicorns, determined that around half of young people in Quebec support sovereignty
2. Quebecers put out a cozy little poll of their own that says exactly what they want it to say because they are going to put another PM over a barrel 

They're going to put him over a barrel either way so, all roads lead to Rome in this case   

[August1991]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

They're going to put him over a barrel either way so, all roads lead to Rome in this case   

Pollsters used to say:

"A mile wide but an inch deep."  

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Pollsters used to say:

"A mile wide but an inch deep."  

They did indeed. I'm not in a million percent sure I see how it's relevant in this particular case tho. 

[Army Guy]

Once Quebec separates, what do you think the ROC will do,it will start carving up the rest of the country....we will hand trump everything he has ever wanted....no way individual provinces could stand on their own....and it all will be free or cost us everything....like pensions, OAS, CPP, all will vanish...it will be messy....and lots of people will lose everything....

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Army Guy said:

Once Quebec separates, what do you think the ROC will do,it will start carving up the rest of the country....we will hand trump everything he has ever wanted....no way individual provinces could stand on their own....and it all will be free or cost us everything....like pensions, OAS, CPP, all will vanish...it will be messy....and lots of people will lose everything....

Your provinces are quite capable of standing on their own, especially if there's a loose economic union much like we see in Europe.

I could definitely see the western provinces forming such an alliance with an agreement to have a shared economy and the ability to cross borders to work and such while still maintaining autonomy. British Columbia with its ports, thriving tech and movie businesses, lumber etc, Alberta with its oil and other resources, Saskatchewan with its potash and other resources, and even little Manitoba rounds things out as the three prairie provinces would represent most of Canada's food production. That's a pretty significant leverage.

I would vastly prefer to live in that kind of a circumstance then I do currently. A lot of westerners do, especially westerners who are second or third generation because they remember what it was like when their parents and grandparents had to suffer so that the east could rape the west in order to buy votes In Quebec and in Ontario

[Barquentine]

On 6/27/2025 at 3:31 AM, CdnFox said:

Looks like we're gonna be going to a new referendum. if the PQ win.

No. As much as you hate Canada and would like to see it break up, this ain't gonna' happen. What's the percentage for the rest of the Quebec electorate? You suck at extrapolation.

[Army Guy]

11 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Your provinces are quite capable of standing on their own, especially if there's a loose economic union much like we see in Europe.

I could definitely see the western provinces forming such an alliance with an agreement to have a shared economy and the ability to cross borders to work and such while still maintaining autonomy. British Columbia with its ports, thriving tech and movie businesses, lumber etc, Alberta with its oil and other resources, Saskatchewan with its potash and other resources, and even little Manitoba rounds things out as the three prairie provinces would represent most of Canada's food production. That's a pretty significant leverage.

I would vastly prefer to live in that kind of a circumstance then I do currently. A lot of westerners do, especially westerners who are second or third generation because they remember what it was like when their parents and grandparents had to suffer so that the east could rape the west in order to buy votes In Quebec and in Ontario

I disagree, from quebec to the atlantic provinces are not able to survive on their own, not even close....Quebec being the biggest problem....if they could there would be no provincial transfers...the west is most likely to succeed, with being the food basket of canada and having all the energy...but that not going to be enough what happens to pensioners , old age , CPP there is not enough to support everyone if Canada breaks up...thats only one issue.....No the best bet is joining the states at that point...and BC...do you really think BC are going to cooperate with Alberta and the rest of them....use the new port in Manitoba....it would be easier....

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I disagree, from quebec to the atlantic provinces are not able to survive on their own, not even close....

Quebec would have a rough go of it, largely because they would trip over their own feet. The Atlantics would not be able to survive on their own that's true. Ontario could and the western provinces could

There's more than enough wealth to support Canadians in their old age especially in the west. You have to remember that Currently almost all of the western provinces contribute far more than they take in income taxes, subsidizing old age care would be a piece of cake if we weren't paying to fund many of the easts programs.

And you also have to remember we would have a tiny percentage of the debt. Assuming that the debt was divvied up based on population more than half of it current federal debt would remain with Ontario and Quebec. Western provinces would barely have 30 to 40% of the debt and would be in position to pay it off much easier and with the exception of BC we're provinces generally are less burdened by debt as well.

Things would be tough in the east. Ontario would have a rough go because a lot of its activity is subsidized by western Exploitation that would no longer be there. But they hobble along. Quebec would be in real Trouble In The Atlantics would be stuck.

None of which would be the west's problem anymore.