User Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 So, with the recent Supreme Court Ruling clarifying that the Trump Administration can deport people to third-party countries... keep in mind, Garcia had a deportation order. The only order he had protecting him was that he couldn't be deported back to El Salvador. So... guess what happens next? Looks like the Trump Administration can just deport him to Sudan instead. Good Riddance! I mean, maybe he wants to go back to El Salvador now. Self Deport... Supreme Court allows Trump to swiftly deport certain immigrants to 'third countries' The Trump administration sought to overturn a judge's ruling that imposed a legal process for deporting convicted criminals to places other than their countries of origin. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-allows-trump-deport-certain-immigrants-third-countries-rcna209419 1 Quote
blackbird Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 32 minutes ago, User said: Looks like the Trump Administration can just deport him to Sudan instead. Good Riddance! You have a very hateful, sad attitude toward someone you don't even know from a hole in the ground. He originally came from El Salvador in 2011 to escape gang threats. Sending anyone to Sudan would be a very serious violation of human rights. quote Sudan is currently considered very unsafe for travel due to ongoing armed conflict, civil unrest, and high risks of crime, terrorism, and kidnapping. Travelers are strongly advised not to travel to Sudan and should consider leaving if they are already there. The security situation remains volatile, with heavy fighting and numerous civilian casualties reported. Historical issues of internal conflict and civil unrest continue to pose significant risks. unquote The only reason anyone would send anyone to Sudan is out of pure spite and hatred. No civilized government leader or administration in the world would even consider doing such a thing. This is totally the opposite of Christian Biblical principles of loving thy neighbour and doing no harm to others. Quote
User Posted June 26, 2025 Author Report Posted June 26, 2025 8 minutes ago, blackbird said: You have a very hateful, sad attitude toward someone you don't even know from a hole in the ground. He originally came from El Salvador in 2011 to escape gang threats. Sending anyone to Sudan would be a very serious violation of human rights. No, by all accounts, the guy beat his wife, engaged in illegal activity to smuggle other illegal immigrants into the country, all while being a member or affiliated with the MS-13 gang. He is here illegally. I support enforcing our immigration laws to deport him. Quote
robosmith Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 No. Abrego Garcia was given a no deport ORDER by a Federal judge. Not surprised that Luser is CHEERING Trump violating another JUDICIAL ORDER. Thanks for getting on the gnat girl bus and a proving you have NO RESPECT for the LAW. Quote
Deluge Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 16 minutes ago, blackbird said: You have a very hateful, sad attitude toward someone you don't even know from a hole in the ground. He originally came from El Salvador in 2011 to escape gang threats. Sending anyone to Sudan would be a very serious violation of human rights. quote Sudan is currently considered very unsafe for travel due to ongoing armed conflict, civil unrest, and high risks of crime, terrorism, and kidnapping. Travelers are strongly advised not to travel to Sudan and should consider leaving if they are already there. The security situation remains volatile, with heavy fighting and numerous civilian casualties reported. Historical issues of internal conflict and civil unrest continue to pose significant risks. unquote The only reason anyone would send anyone to Sudan is out of pure spite and hatred. No civilized government leader or administration in the world would even consider doing such a thing. This is totally the opposite of Christian Biblical principles of loving thy neighbour and doing no harm to others. I get that you want to wrap your arms around the entire planet, but the country isn't big enough to take all 7 billion people. The best thing to do is ship his ass to El Salvador and fly his family over there with him. they can unite in his home country when he is released. 1 Quote
User Posted June 26, 2025 Author Report Posted June 26, 2025 18 minutes ago, blackbird said: He originally came from El Salvador in 2011 to escape gang threats. That is what he claims, a review of that evidence might prove the opposite, that the threat to his life there exists because of the gang activity he was involved in to harm others. Either way, that threat no longer exists with the new local government's efforts to restore law and order. 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: No. Abrego Garcia was given a no deport ORDER by a Federal judge. Not surprised that Luser is CHEERING Trump violating another JUDICIAL ORDER. Thanks for getting on the gnat girl bus and a proving you have NO RESPECT for the LAW. That order was only a non-deportation order to El Salvador... 1 minute ago, Deluge said: The best thing to do is ship his ass to El Salvador and fly his family over there with him. they can unite in his home country when he is released. We have an app where he can schedule and coordinate his own deportation so it is more convenient for him! 1 Quote
Deluge Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: No. Abrego Garcia was given a no deport ORDER by a Federal judge. Not surprised that Luser is CHEERING Trump violating another JUDICIAL ORDER. Thanks for getting on the gnat girl bus and a proving you have NO RESPECT for the LAW. Good thing the SC overruled your piece of shit lower judges - they all belong behind bars. 1 Quote
blackbird Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 11 minutes ago, User said: No, by all accounts, the guy beat his wife, A news article says this was in 2021, four years ago and since then his wife said ""We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling," Vasquez Sura said. "Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him." 13 minutes ago, User said: engaged in illegal activity to smuggle other illegal immigrants into the country, all while being a member or affiliated with the MS-13 gang. Those are unproven allegations made by the supporters of the Trump / ICE admin deportations. Regardless of the outcome of any court case against him, the Trump admin does not have the right to send him to Sudan, Libya, or El Salvador where his life would be in danger. It is a more complex case than we can comprehend on here and still has to be settled by court. Humanitarianism is part of it regardless of how inhumane you think they should act. Authorities may be forced to let him remain in the U.S. because he may fall into the category of a refugee with no other place to go and he has children and a wife in the U.S. Nobody has the right to send him to a hell hole where he could be killed. Quote
User Posted June 26, 2025 Author Report Posted June 26, 2025 2 minutes ago, blackbird said: A news article says this was in 2021, four years ago and since then his wife said ""We were able to work through this situation privately as a family, including by going to counseling," Vasquez Sura said. "Kilmar has always been a loving partner and father, and I will continue to stand by him and demand justice for him." LOL, yes, because wifes who are beat do not have a long history of recanting or being OK with it... The point remains, he beat his wife, all you got is that she is OK with it now. 3 minutes ago, blackbird said: Those are unproven allegations made by the supporters of the Trump / ICE admin deportations. Not made by supporters, this is a criminal charge he is facing, he was indicted, the government has compelling witnesses and evidence. We have VIDEO of him being pulled over doing this. 4 minutes ago, blackbird said: Regardless of the outcome of any court case against him, the Trump admin does not have the right to send him to Sudan, Libya, or El Salvador where his life would be in danger. The law says otherwise. They can deport him to a 3rd party country. They can also relitigate the order preventing his removal to El Salvador and send him back there instead. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, blackbird said: You have a very hateful, sad attitude toward someone you don't even know from a hole in the ground. He originally came from El Salvador in 2011 to escape gang threats. Sending anyone to Sudan would be a very serious violation of human rights. quote Sudan is currently considered very unsafe for travel due to ongoing armed conflict, civil unrest, and high risks of crime, terrorism, and kidnapping. Travelers are strongly advised not to travel to Sudan and should consider leaving if they are already there. The security situation remains volatile, with heavy fighting and numerous civilian casualties reported. Historical issues of internal conflict and civil unrest continue to pose significant risks. unquote The only reason anyone would send anyone to Sudan is out of pure spite and hatred. No civilized government leader or administration in the world would even consider doing such a thing. This is totally the opposite of Christian Biblical principles of loving thy neighbour and doing no harm to others. You have a very whimsical attitude. Oh BTW...I say if he had a reason to fear the gangs, it's because he was involved with them. Thus...give his family an opportunity to go with him and ciao. Don't call us, we'll call you. Edited June 26, 2025 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: You have a very whimsical attitude. Oh BTW...I say if he had a reason to fear the gangs, it's because he was involved with them. Thus...give his family an opportunity to go with him and ciao. Don't call us, we'll call you. YOUR SIMPLISTIC ANALYSIS is far from definitive. Gangs are KNOWN to recruit young kids not involved with them by the use of violence if they don't comply. But I'm sure you believe you're an expert on gangs in 3rd world countries, right? LMAO Quote
Nationalist Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 (edited) 9 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOUR SIMPLISTIC ANALYSIS is far from definitive. Gangs are KNOWN to recruit young kids not involved with them by the use of violence if they don't comply. But I'm sure you believe you're an expert on gangs in 3rd world countries, right? LMAO What a dope. My analysis...Dweebles...is the result of experience. Gangs "recruit" aggressive kids...perfectly willing to inflict their aggression on anyone. Not Dweebs. Edited June 26, 2025 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted June 26, 2025 Author Report Posted June 26, 2025 20 minutes ago, robosmith said: YOUR SIMPLISTIC ANALYSIS is far from definitive. Gangs are KNOWN to recruit young kids not involved with them by the use of violence if they don't comply. But I'm sure you believe you're an expert on gangs in 3rd world countries, right? LMAO OK, so no need to import those gang members to our country and let them stay while they continue to engage with them... Quote
robosmith Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 8 minutes ago, Nationalist said: My analysis...Dweebles...is the result of experience. Gangs "recruit" aggressive kids...perfectly willing to inflict their aggression on anyone. Not Dweebs. Really lDIOT? With what third world gangs do YOU have "experience"? All of them? LMAO It's kinda easy to turn ANY kid into an "aggressive kid" by bullying them. Duh Treating anyone brutally will usually make them a BRUTE. It worked on you, only you're just an anonymous brute on the interwebz. IF you can afford to move to So Cal (got at least a $million for a average house?), maybe we'll find out how big a man you really are. And you'll find out I am really 6'6" 240lbs. Quote
User Posted June 26, 2025 Author Report Posted June 26, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Really lDIOT? With what third world gangs do YOU have "experience"? All of them? LMAO It's kinda easy to turn ANY kid into an "aggressive kid" by bullying them. Duh Again... so what? Then leave them in El Salvador. We don't need gang violence and more gang criminality in America. 1 minute ago, robosmith said: IF you can afford to move to So Cal (got at least a $million for a average house?), maybe we'll find out how big a man you really are. And you'll find out I am really 6'6" 240lbs. You cowardly hide from words on a forum you clown. You can't even stand up to my calling out your BS here. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Really lDIOT? With what third world gangs do YOU have "experience"? All of them? LMAO It's kinda easy to turn ANY kid into an "aggressive kid" by bullying them. Duh Treating anyone brutally will usually make them a BRUTE. It worked on you, only you're just an anonymous brute on the interwebz. IF you can afford to move to So Cal (got at least a $million for a average house?), maybe we'll find out how big a man you really are. And you'll find out I am really 6'6" 240lbs. Lol...thilly boy... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Deluge Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 2 hours ago, robosmith said: No. Abrego Garcia was given a no deport ORDER by a Federal judge. Not surprised that Luser is CHEERING Trump violating another JUDICIAL ORDER. Thanks for getting on the gnat girl bus and a proving you have NO RESPECT for the LAW. No, the highest court in the land overruled your fake judges. You keep spewing that shit as if actually means something. I want to tell you, numbnuts, it doesn't. Your JUDICIAL ORDER is actually an ACTIVIST ORDER. It's why the highest court in the land shit canned it. No, thank YOU for celebrating ILLEGAL BORDER crossings and not trying to hide that fact. Quote
robosmith Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Lol...thilly boy... Just as I suspected: you got BUPKIS as USUAL. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 12 minutes ago, robosmith said: Just as I suspected: you got BUPKIS as USUAL. Bubkis? Do you expect me to fly right down there to call you names? Look zucchini-boy...I have no doubt you have no idea what you're talking about. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 44 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Bubkis? Do you expect me to fly right down there to call you names? Look zucchini-boy...I have no doubt you have no idea what you're talking about. ^lDIOT claims he knows 3rd world gangs and how they behave, but cannot even say which ones he knows. LMAO AKA BUPKIS. Quote
CdnFox Posted June 26, 2025 Report Posted June 26, 2025 Correct me if I'm wrong though, the third party country in question would still need to accept him or he would have to be a citizen there, wouldn't he? I mean they can't just deport him to random country without their permission I wouldn't think. How would that work, quick over flight and push him out the door with a parachute? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted June 27, 2025 Author Report Posted June 27, 2025 Oh man, this is great. Reading through some analysis of his current criminal trial, it is a big catch-22 for him. If he makes bail and gets released from criminal custody... he immediately goes into ICE custody. The real kicker, then, is that ICE could very well deport him to a third-party country. The Judge can't stop them. So, the Judge and defense lawyers are left in a pickle, as it is actually better for Garcia to stay in custody for his criminal case. I love every bit of this because Democrats made this criminal thug their poster child hero. 4 hours ago, CdnFox said: Correct me if I'm wrong though, the third party country in question would still need to accept him or he would have to be a citizen there, wouldn't he? I mean they can't just deport him to random country without their permission I wouldn't think. How would that work, quick over flight and push him out the door with a parachute? Yes, the third-party country has to accept him, but the United States has significant leverage with many countries to do just that. Quote
Nationalist Posted June 27, 2025 Report Posted June 27, 2025 16 hours ago, robosmith said: ^lDIOT claims he knows 3rd world gangs and how they behave, but cannot even say which ones he knows. LMAO AKA BUPKIS. Garcia is a gang-banger and will be deported to rot in Hell. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted June 27, 2025 Author Report Posted June 27, 2025 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Garcia is a gang-banger and will be deported to rot in Hell. Within the framework of existing laws and due process, as Trump and this administration have said, Garcia is never coming back here except in a jail cell. The poor little "Maryland family man" that became the Democrats celebrity cause to rally around is little more than a gang member or affiliate that was likely involved in gang violence in El Salvador which is why his life was threatened by rival gangs there at the time and why he continued to engage in gang activity helping them in human trafficing here. Never mind, he is a wife-beater. And this is what Democrats want to protect staying in America. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted June 28, 2025 Report Posted June 28, 2025 On 6/27/2025 at 9:08 AM, User said: And this is what Democrats want to protect staying in America. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
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