BREAKING: Leaked US intelligence says Iran's nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

[WestCanMan]

14 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So you admit, WMD's had nothing to do with it.

No, I'm saying that it wasn't unreasonable to think that he still had WMD's hidden somewhere, which he fully intended to use, but we never found them, and critics of the administration that started that war are lying about what intelligences were being presented to the president at that time. 

I'm pretty sure that I could hide some WMD's in a country the size of Iraq, where the US gov't couldn't find them. 

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As bad as Saddam was, his removal and the destruction of Iraq as a functioning country removed the biggest counterbalance to Iran and spawned the birth of ISIS and the mess that followed. The US has propped up plenty of dictators over the years, mostly in Central and South America.

Obama was the one who allowed islamic state to grow into what it was, but the 2nd war in Iraq was definitely a strategic and civilian catastrophe. 

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No, I'm saying that it wasn't unreasonable to think that he still had WMD's hidden somewhere, which he fully intended to use, but we never found them, and critics of the administration that started that war are lying about what intelligences were being presented to the president at that time. 

I'm pretty sure that I could hide some WMD's in a country the size of Iraq, where the US gov't couldn't find them. 

Obama was the one who allowed islamic state to grow into what it was, but the 2nd war in Iraq was definitely a strategic and civilian catastrophe. 

They were never found because they didn't exist, just like the UN inspectors were telling them. Bush and his bunch were dead set on invading Iraq and nothing was going to stop them. 

If Bush hadn't destroyed Iraq as a functioning country ISIS would have never existed because they were just as much a threat to Saddam as they were to anyone else. Bush was president for six years after the invasion, not Obama.

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They were never found because they didn't exist, just like the UN inspectors were telling them. Bush and his bunch were dead set on invading Iraq and nothing was going to stop them. 

It's possible that the WMD's didn't exist, and it was gross to bet the lives of so many people that it did. 

Maybe Saddam needed to be taken out, but that war was the least legitimate war the US was ever involved in in the ME. war. 

Dubya was by far the worst Republican president of the last 50 years, maybe ever. I don't even know that much about the presidents of old.

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If Bush hadn't destroyed Iraq as a functioning country ISIS would have never existed because they were just as much a threat to Saddam as they were to anyone else. Bush was president for six years after the invasion, not Obama.

If the dog hadn't stopped to take a dump, Obama never should have ignored intelligence reports and called islamic state a Jr Varsity terrorist squad. 

[Aristides]

5 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's possible that the WMD's didn't exist, and it was gross to bet the lives of so many people that it did. 

Maybe Saddam needed to be taken out, but that war was the least legitimate war the US was ever involved in in the ME. war. 

Dubya was by far the worst Republican president of the last 50 years, maybe ever. I don't even know that much about the presidents of old.

If the dog hadn't stopped to take a dump, Obama never should have ignored intelligence reports and called islamic state a Jr Varsity terrorist squad. 

Saddam didn't need to be taken out, he was no longer a threat. Taking him out left a perfect environment for ISIS and other terrorist groups to grow and thrive. 

Bush created the mess but according to MAGAT logic, it was all Obama's fault. Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan and Biden got the blame for it. Such is MAGAT logic.

[User]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They were never found because they didn't exist, just like the UN inspectors were telling them. Bush and his bunch were dead set on invading Iraq and nothing was going to stop them. 

If Bush hadn't destroyed Iraq as a functioning country ISIS would have never existed because they were just as much a threat to Saddam as they were to anyone else. Bush was president for six years after the invasion, not Obama.

Well, some remnants of their Chemical warfare program were lingering around, but either way... maybe next time Saddam will comply with the demands. Oh wait... too late for that. 

ISIS would never have existed for a million different reasons... trying to focus only on what Bush did with the initial invasion is dishonest. 

ISIS did not exist during those 6 years Bush continued to be President...  

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Saddam didn't need to be taken out, he was no longer a threat. Taking him out left a perfect environment for ISIS and other terrorist groups to grow and thrive. 

A person who uses chemical weapons on other people is always a threat. What if a guy like that makes a strong alliance with another shithole country like Pakistan?

It's best to get rid of a guy like that once and for all.

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Bush created the mess but according to MAGAT logic, it was all Obama's fault. Trump negotiated the withdrawal from Afghanistan and Biden got the blame for it. Such is MAGAT logic.

Bush didn't create the mess.

Obama hastily pulling out and leaving billions of dollars worth of tanks, LAV's, Humvees, rocket launchers, grenade launchers, machine guns, pistols, grenades, night vision goggles, etc, created the mess.

NEWSFLASH: You can't leave terrorists enough weaponry to fight a war against a normal country and expect nothing bad to happen. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If the dog hadn't stopped to take a dump, Obama never should have ignored intelligence reports and called islamic state a Jr Varsity terrorist squad. 

"Jr Varsity" graduated as USUAL. Duh

[Venandi]

On 6/26/2025 at 1:23 PM, robosmith said:

Since Israel has nukes, Iran should have them, too.

That's a pretty select club: the Iranian regime, several terrorist organizations and.... you.

On 6/26/2025 at 1:23 PM, robosmith said:

you're a complete HYPOCRITE.

Okee donkey then.... I like my club better than yours anyway. 

Edited yesterday at 12:31 AM by Venandi

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

That's a pretty select club: the Iranian regime, several terrorist organizations and.... you.

Israel is ALSO a terrorist organization whose targets are Palestinians whose land they want.

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

Okee donkey then.... I like my club better than yours anyway. 

Because you are blind to the horrible things that Israel is doing and HAS DONE.

[paxamericana]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

blind to the horrible things that Israel is doing and HAS DONE.

Actually I don't think there's any better solution than for Israel to launch a ground invasion into Gaza and root out Hamas and their sympathizer. The people that are truely innocent and just want to raise their families need an oppurtunity for peace, not provocation. Hamas is a death cult that glorifies blowing your self up to kill more Jews, their only purpose is to destroy Israel, they do not want a two state sollution. Hamas is using the palestinian people as a diplomatic, political and literal human shield. 

Understand that a ground invasion and the subsequent post war administration of Gaza will be bloody at first. Things will get worse before they get better, no ways around that so I'm not going to sugar coat it. But once the extremist elements have been removed, I believe there is a real chance for the Palestinian and Jews to make peace as they have done in other none Hamas controlled arab communities of Israell. 

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Actually I don't think there's any better solution than for Israel to launch a ground invasion into Gaza and root out Hamas and their sympathizer. The people that are truely innocent and just want to raise their families need an oppurtunity for peace, not provocation. Hamas is a death cult that glorifies blowing your self up to kill more Jews, their only purpose is to destroy Israel, they do not want a two state sollution. Hamas is using the palestinian people as a diplomatic, political and literal human shield. 

Understand that a ground invasion and the subsequent post war administration of Gaza will be bloody at first. Things will get worse before they get better, no ways around that so I'm not going to sugar coat it. But once the extremist elements have been removed, I believe there is a real chance for the Palestinian and Jews to make peace as they have done in other none Hamas controlled arab communities of Israell. 

The INDISCRIMATE KILLING is STILL GOING ON. They are using the lack of food as a weapon for ethnic cleansing.

I could see the glee in Netanyahu's eyes when Trump said they should relocate the Gazans and turn their homes into a luxury resort. 🤮

[gatomontes99]

19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The INDISCRIMATE KILLING is STILL GOING ON. They are using the lack of food as a weapon for ethnic cleansing.

I could see the glee in Netanyahu's eyes when Trump said they should relocate the Gazans and turn their homes into a luxury resort. 🤮

Reality...you have to live in reality...there is nothing else:

Terrorists Attack U.S. Pier Under Construction Off Gaza Coast

According to the IDF, the video, captured earlier in the day, shows men throwing rocks and firing weapons at fellow Palestinians trying to retrieve looted aid packages.

You guys love to lie about Trump's plan:

"Create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area," he added. "Do a real job. Do something different."

 

[paxamericana]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Netanyahu's eyes when Trump said they should relocate the Gazans and turn their homes into a luxury resort

Yes Netanyahu is a zionist. He is first and foremost concerned with the security of the Jewish state. He would like to get rid of the hostile palestinian population, preferably without using Zyklon B (too pricey$$?).

History is more filled with tragedy than happy ending. Other than the United States, I know not of any other successfull cases for assimilation. I truely mean assimiliation not a patch work of tribal groups like Canada and Europe. 

The condition for assimillation cannot exist without peaceful negotiated settlement and something akin to individual liberty in pursuit of hapiness. Gaza as a Hamas ran prison inside Israel is not that. Hence removing Hamas is the first step. Netanyahu made a political career out of the security scare.  As is the case with Churchill, without a war, there is no need for a war time leader.

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[robosmith]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Yes Netanyahu is a zionist. He is first and foremost concerned with the security of the Jewish state. He would like to get rid of the hostile palestinian population, preferably without using Zyklon B (too pricey$$?).

History is more filled with tragedy than happy ending. Other than the United States, I know not of any other successfull cases for assimilation. I truely mean assimiliation not a patch work of tribal groups like Canada and Europe. 

The condition for assimillation cannot exist without peaceful negotiated settlement and something akin to individual liberty in pursuit of hapiness. Gaza as a Hamas ran prison inside Israel is not that. Hence removing Hamas is the first step. Netanyahu made a political career out of the security scare.  As is the case with Churchill, without a war, there is no need for a war time leader.

The security of the Jewish state is NOT SERVED by INDISCRIMANTE KILLING of people not in Hamas.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Israel is ALSO a terrorist organization whose targets are Palestinians whose land they want

Israel is a terrorist organization in the same way that you are 6 ft 2 and a world famous computer programmer as you claim.  Basically in your mind only.  

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Israel is a terrorist organization in the same way that you are 6 ft 2 and a world famous computer programmer as you claim.  Basically in your mind only.  

You don't even know what I claim, CdnLIAR.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You don't even know what I claim, CdnLIAR.

Sure I do. I've read your posts. So is everyone else. 

The problem is you can't seem to remember everything you've claimed so you can't remember which lie to defend  

But yes you have claimed to be a giant of a man with huge muscles and you have claimed to be a world-famous computer expert until legato pretty much shot you down and proved you knew nothing.

Your story about buying zucchini from slave labor immigrants does sound plausible though so I guess it isn't all lies  

You should start writing your lies down. It'll be easier to track. Maybe you could get some kid to show you how to make a spreadsheet

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Israel is a terrorist organization in the same way that you are 6 ft 2 and a world famous computer programmer as you claim.  Basically in your mind only.  

I gave him an opportunity to prove his height at least. He declined. 

Edited yesterday at 03:05 PM by gatomontes99

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure I do. I've read your posts. So is everyone else. 

The problem is you can't seem to remember everything you've claimed so you can't remember which lie to defend  

But yes you have claimed to be a giant of a man with huge muscles and you have claimed to be a world-famous computer expert until legato pretty much shot you down and proved you knew nothing.

Your story about buying zucchini from slave labor immigrants does sound plausible though so I guess it isn't all lies  

You should start writing your lies down. It'll be easier to track. Maybe you could get some kid to show you how to make a spreadsheet

Like I said, you don't even know what I CLAIMED, CdnLIAR

If you did, you could quote it, but you're too lazy to find out YOU CANNOT.

So instead you just LIE as USUAL.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

I gave him an opportunity to prove his height at least. He declined. 

Complete ^BULLSHIT. There is NO WAY I can PROVE my height on this Internet forum, cause even if I posted a pic of my DL, you'd never know if it was doctored. IN FACT it would def be redacted because ONLY A FOOL would post an unredacted DL for you lDIOTS to see.

But that is irrelevant to the CdnLIAR CLAIM of what I CLAIMED. He just doesn't know, and is TOO LAZY to find out.

[gatomontes99]

22 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Complete ^BULLSHIT. There is NO WAY I can PROVE my height on this Internet forum, cause even if I posted a pic of my DL, you'd never know if it was doctored. IN FACT it would def be redacted because ONLY A FOOL would post an unredacted DL for you lDIOTS to see.

But that is irrelevant to the CdnLIAR CLAIM of what I CLAIMED. He just doesn't know, and is TOO LAZY to find out.

Who said anything about a DL? Just post a pic, standing in a door, holding a hand written sign that says robosmith. You can even hold the sign in front of your face. But you won't because you are some 5'6, 140 lb 16 year old that pretends his tough shìt. 

[robosmith]

2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said:

Who said anything about a DL? Just post a pic, standing in a door, holding a hand written sign that says robosmith. You can even hold the sign in front of your face. But you won't because you are some 5'6, 140 lb 16 year old that pretends his tough shìt. 

And then you'd claim that the door was not standard height.

REAL PROOF is just NOT available on the Internet, lDIOT.

The FACT is, you cannot just accept my REASONABLE CLAIM on which I am EXPERT for some STUPID REASON.

It's not like being 6'6" and 240lbs is all that exceptional. Or maybe it is in your family. LMAO

But still, my post is about CdnLIAR not knowing what I claimed. 

Anyway I am done with this nonsense. Have the last word, lDIOT.

[gatomontes99]

10 minutes ago, robosmith said:

And then you'd claim that the door was not standard height.

REAL PROOF is just NOT available on the Internet, lDIOT.

The FACT is, you cannot just accept my REASONABLE CLAIM on which I am EXPERT for some STUPID REASON.

It's not like being 6'6" and 240lbs is all that exceptional. Or maybe it is in your family. LMAO

But still, my post is about CdnLIAR not knowing what I claimed. 

Anyway I am done with this nonsense. Have the last word, lDIOT.

You have just proven my point, so some things can be proven. 

What you are really saying is that YOU can't prove any of your claims and YOU can't accept anything anyone else proves. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Like I said, you don't even know what I CLAIMED, CdnLIAR

 

Like I said, yes I do and lying about it doesn't make you look any better. Now you look like a liar for having made the claim in the first place and a double wire for having pretended that we couldn't understand your claim

Pretty sad kiddo.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Complete ^BULLSHIT. There is NO WAY I can PROVE my height on this Internet forum, cause even if I posted a pic of my DL, you'd never know if it was doctored. IN FACT it would def be redacted because ONLY A FOOL would post an unredacted DL for you lDIOTS to see.

 

It's not hard to post a picture of yourself even with the face slightly blurred holding something very specific that you were asked to. It's hard to fake that. If he says to post a picture wearing a blue shirt and holding a pink mug with a paper with today's date on it the chances of you finding something on the internet that would match it perfectly would be very difficult. And while pictures can be altered it would require some skill and usually that can be detected by software.

It's simple enough. And if you were the great legendary computer genius you claim to be you would have already known that 🙂