BREAKING: Leaked US intelligence says Iran's nuclear plans “likely only set back months”

robosmith · Thursday at 05:37 AM

10 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

These are not historicaly accurate representation of events. 1948 was the first Arab V Israel war. That’s when the Palestinian fled. Because war. Also not commonly known, but the Arabs hate each other more than they hate Israel. The Palestinian only serves as a pawn to unite the Arab population against Israel and not their own failing and unpopular government of the time. Arab countries despise the Palestinian.

Many of the Palestinians fled due to the 3 bands of roving Jewish terrorist gangs: the Irgun, Haganah, and Levi.

You see, I have EVIDENCE (link) and you have NONE.

6 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

This is the heart of the matter. The Iranian theocracy is a death cult. They don’t just hate Israel, they hate the west. They do not believe in the Judeo Christian principles of life. Which is a core religious belief, that man is made in the image of god. Life is not sanctify thus life is cheap. Furthermore, the justification for terrorism (use of violence to create fear and achieve political goals) only points to authoritarianism which is also why they hate the liberal democratic system of the west. In summary, the terrorist don’t just hate you, they hate your way of life because it creates an alternative reality to their 7th century fantasy.

The Palestinian ran terror group HAMAS clearly state they do not want a two party system. They want the destruction of Israel and its Jewish inhabitants.

They want revenge for the theft of THEIR LAND. No EVIDENCE ^here, either.

gatomontes99 · Thursday at 10:41 AM

CIA says it has evidence Iran’s nuclear program was ‘severely damaged’ as assessments of US strikes’ impact continue

Venandi · Thursday at 11:09 AM

14 hours ago, robosmith said:

Iran would likely not be enriching U if Israel didn't have the bomb and not actually invaded them. Duh

My Aunt would likely be my Uncle if she had nuts. Duh

Four pages in and I've yet to hear a firm position that's grounded in the here and now. Please fast forward to present day and state your preference... do you approve of Iran having nuclear weapons?

If not, why not and how would you prevent it.... not how you would have prevented it if you had the luxury of owning a time machine?

Edited Thursday at 11:11 AM by Venandi

Boges · Thursday at 01:07 PM

14 hours ago, CdnFox said:

In 2003 they said there was a nuclear program when there wasn't a nuclear program. They said that uranium had been obtained when there was no uranium

Are you claiming that the Iranians did not have uranium? Are you suggesting that they're actually was no enrichment facility?

Unless you're making those claims there's no comparison. I ran definitely had the capacity and was moving towards a state where they could produce a nuclear weapon. They were continuing to enrich uranium and increasing the amount despite the fact they don't even have a reactor.

So in the united states has said close enough, whether you are actually building a bomb or not you're at the point where you could and we're not okay with that.

There's nothing hidden or surprising here, this isn't anything remotely like 2003. Iran must not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and that means not having the capacity to make them. This is not the kind of thing you get to just trust people on, and nobody is disputing the fact that they had the facilities and that whether or not the program was intended for peaceful use they were moving towards a state where they would be able to produce a Bomb if they wanted to

But the solution is the same. War. Strikes like this aren't going to stop Iran, they're only going to encourage them.

The only way to ensure they don't get Nukes is with boots on the ground.

Edited Thursday at 01:07 PM by Boges

gatomontes99 · Thursday at 01:11 PM

3 minutes ago, Boges said:

But the solution is the same. War. Strikes like this aren't going to stop Iran, they're only going to encourage them.

The only way to ensure they don't get Nukes is with boots on the ground.

They were already encouraged. What changed is their ability.

gatomontes99 · Thursday at 01:22 PM

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/26/world/middleeast/centrifuges-fordo-damage-iran.html

Centrifuges at Fordo ‘No Longer Operational,’ U.N. Nuclear Watchdog Head Says

Rafael Grossi told French radio that there was “no escaping significant physical damage” after the U.S. dropped bunker-buster bombs on the Iranian facility.

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Again, @robosmith is wrong and the entire forum is right. Go figure.

User · Thursday at 02:19 PM

1 hour ago, Boges said:

But the solution is the same. War. Strikes like this aren't going to stop Iran, they're only going to encourage them.

The only way to ensure they don't get Nukes is with boots on the ground.

What war?

Its already over.

paxamericana · Thursday at 04:18 PM

Is it loss on this forum that regardless of whether or not Iran was pursuing a Bomb. Iran as of 6/28, is no longer able to do so at Isfahan, Natanz, Fordow. Is it also lost on you all that the United State military, the most lethal fighting force to have ever existed on earth just haphazardly approach a target at the whims of an Orange man? They dedicated man power and vast resource to this project 15 years ago. There were plenty of PhD working on not only creating the Bunker Busting munition but also others studying the facility's construction using Super Computer that for a time ate up most of the computing capability of the entire planet as a scale. These brave souls dedicated their entire career in the pursuit of our Nation's defence. Before you dismiss American hard power resolve, recognise that we do not lack the means. There is no target on earth and orbit beyond our reach.

robosmith · Thursday at 04:23 PM

5 hours ago, Venandi said:

My Aunt would likely be my Uncle if she had nuts. Duh

Four pages in and I've yet to hear a firm position that's grounded in the here and now. Please fast forward to present day and state your preference... do you approve of Iran having nuclear weapons?

If not, why not and how would you prevent it.... not how you would have prevented it if you had the luxury of owning a time machine?

Since Israel has nukes, Iran should have them, too.

I'm sure Iran would completely abandon enrichment in return for Israel giving up their nukes.

But you don't care about that happening because you're a complete HYPOCRITE.

The thing with you right wingers is, you believe the US should do whatever it wants TO IRAN and never pay the piper.

Sorry that's not how it works. Do you even know what "blowback" is? LMAO

CdnFox · Thursday at 04:26 PM

3 hours ago, Boges said:

But the solution is the same. War. Strikes like this aren't going to stop Iran, they're only going to encourage them.

The only way to ensure they don't get Nukes is with boots on the ground.

Well boots on the ground may become necessary someday. But right now this does help to ensure that they're not developing right at the moment and perhaps they can find another way other than destroying the entire country now that they have some time.

The problem is the people of Iran do not seem to be interested in this program or supportive of this government and they do appear that they are looking for ways of being able to rid themselves of these current leaders. One way or another that could lead to a change that might allow for peaceful settlement of these issues. It would be nice if the people who are working to remove the government didn't have to die in large numbers in order to address this problem. This seems like a fairly measured response and it will send a message to those in power that if they do stay in power it would be smart not to provoke any further action.

It's an imperfect world filled with imperfect solutions but I don't know that you're going to get much better than this, flawed though it may be

robosmith · Thursday at 04:28 PM

6 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Is it loss on this forum that regardless of whether or not Iran was pursuing a Bomb. Iran as of 6/28, is no longer able to do so at Isfahan, Natanz, Fordow. Is it also lost on you all that the United State military, the most lethal fighting force to have ever existed on earth just haphazardly approach a target at the whims of an Orange man? They dedicated man power and vast resource to this project 15 years ago. There were plenty of PhD working on not only creating the Bunker Busting munition but also others studying the facility's construction using Super Computer that for a time ate up most of the computing capability of the entire planet as a scale. These brave souls dedicated their entire career in the pursuit of our Nation's defence. Before you dismiss American hard power resolve, recognise that we do not lack the means. There is no target on earth and orbit beyond our reach.

Is it LOST ON YOU that all the planning and resources in the world can STILL FAIL in real life?

Those bombs had never been TESTED against UNKNOWN FORTIFICATIONS.

But thanks to ORANGE MAN'S BIG MOUTH EGO, Iran knew enough to SAVE their U stockpile.

Maybe Mossad knows where some of it is, maybe not. Probably NOT ALL.

paxamericana · Thursday at 04:37 PM

3 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Is it LOST ON YOU that all the planning and resources in the world can STILL FAIL in real life?

Those bombs had never been TESTED against UNKNOWN FORTIFICATIONS.

But thanks to ORANGE MAN'S BIG MOUTH EGO, Iran knew enough to SAVE their U stockpile.

Maybe Mossad knows where some of it is, maybe not. Probably NOT ALL.

I don't think you're approaching the topic from the correct perspective. In the cloud of uncertainty you're painting, the bombs fell, theory is now fact; and while no one knows for sure the full extent of the damage. The fact that you would have to go there with a big shovel, to find out one way or the other, tells me that the mission achieved it's intended goal. That facility is now in a state of disrepair beyond the ability for either the Iranian government or outsider to say that the facility is operational.

Boges · Thursday at 04:37 PM

2 hours ago, User said:

What war?

Its already over.

Iran's nuclear program likely isn't.

The only way to surely end it is with war.

User · Thursday at 04:41 PM

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

Iran's nuclear program likely isn't.

The only way to surely end it is with war.

If they want to keep building it, we can keep bombing it.

I am fairly certain that was part of whatever ceasefire deal was put in place and will be part of it remaining.

The only way to be sure is for Iran to stop and commit to stopping.

robosmith · Thursday at 04:42 PM

1 minute ago, paxamericana said:

I don't think you're approaching the topic from the correct perspective. In the cloud of uncertainty you're painting, the bombs fell, theory is now fact; and while no one knows for sure the full extent of the damage. The fact that you would have to go there with a big shovel, to find out one way or the other, tells me that the mission achieved it's intended goal. That facility is now in a state of disrepair beyond the ability for either the Iranian government or outsider to say that the facility is operational.

You DON'T KNOW ^THIS.

The facilities could be MUCH DEEPER than suspected.

But resurrecting them is just NOT NECESSARY when the U has been retrieved and there are plenty of other secret sites in which they can be further enriched.

User · Thursday at 04:43 PM

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Those bombs had never been TESTED against UNKNOWN FORTIFICATIONS.

But thanks to ORANGE MAN'S BIG MOUTH EGO, Iran knew enough to SAVE their U stockpile.

More dishonest idiocy.

Bombs can NEVER be tested on an unknown fortification. Because the foritifcation is UNKNOWN! Dear Lord, how are you this dumb and dishonest?

Iran could have been moving their stockpile around anytime... it was always a threat that the US might do something.

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

But resurrecting them is just NOT NECESSARY when the U has been retrieved and there are plenty of other secret sites in which they can be further enriched.

Oh yes, just like there are plenty of Unicorns in existence, you just don't know where they are!

Talk about another dishonest stupid comment. You have no idea if there are plenty of other secret sites and there is no evidence of this.

paxamericana · Thursday at 04:54 PM

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The facilities could be MUCH DEEPER than suspected.

Doesn't matter if the entrance to your much deeper shaft is inaccessible. And by the way, without proper humidity control and ventilation whatever that is buried down there will rust away and be submerged by ground water. Contaminating the precious enriched uranium with impurities. Time is against Iran. Tik Tok

15 minutes ago, robosmith said:

plenty of other secret sites

That's for the Israeli to find. We can't have all the fun.

Edited Thursday at 04:58 PM by paxamericana

robosmith · Thursday at 04:59 PM

4 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Doesn't matter if the entrance to your much deeper shaft is inaccessible. And by the way, without proper humidity control and ventilation whatever that is buried down their will rust away and be submerged by ground water.

That's for the Israeli to find. We can't have all the fun.

IF the shaft can be dug, it can be CLEARED. Duh

paxamericana · Thursday at 05:00 PM

Just now, robosmith said:

IF the shaft can be dug, it can be CLEARED. Duh

But it won't be overnight. Tick Tock indeed.

robosmith · Thursday at 05:32 PM

30 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

But it won't be overnight. Tick Tock indeed.

I'm sure they have a plan to continue since the destruction plans have been BROADCAST for so LONG.

Hell they even made a Top Gun movie about it. LMAO

CdnFox · Thursday at 05:38 PM

42 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Doesn't matter if the entrance to your much deeper shaft is inaccessible. And by the way, without proper humidity control and ventilation whatever that is buried down there will rust away and be submerged by ground water. Contaminating the precious enriched uranium with impurities. Time is against Iran. Tik Tok

That's for the Israeli to find. We can't have all the fun.

Honestly the vibrations alone could do a hell of a lot of damage. That is very sensitive gear that has to be absolutely perfectly balanced and dropping a bomb like that right on top of it is basically like putting something in a tin can and rattling it, the pulse wave that's traveling through the ground would be enormous and Powerful.

But more importantly even if it was salvageable it would require a significant effort which could not possibly be done without observation. So if they do start making efforts to put it back in operation the Americans and the Israelis will know about it. I'm fairly confident they can bomb faster than I ran can build so at the end of the day I ran is going to have to come to peace with that

User · Thursday at 06:21 PM

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

IF the shaft can be dug, it can be CLEARED. Duh

And it can be bombed again... Duh.

48 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I'm sure they have a plan to continue since the destruction plans have been BROADCAST for so LONG.

Hell they even made a Top Gun movie about it. LMAO

So... now you claim Iran moved everything after the Top Gun movie...

CdnFox · Thursday at 06:25 PM

2 minutes ago, User said:

And it can be bombed again... Duh.

How do you know that gravity will still be working then?? ^^^YoU hAvE NO PROOF!!!

2 minutes ago, User said:

So... now you claim Iran moved everything after the Top Gun movie...

LOL i mean why not

gatomontes99 · Thursday at 10:26 PM

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

Since Israel has nukes, Iran should have them, too.

Israel will never use them. Iran will launch them 5 minutes after they are made.

WestCanMan · Thursday at 11:53 PM

On 6/24/2025 at 8:31 PM, robosmith said:

Enriching U is ONLY the first step. I know they wanted to maintain ambiguity to dissuade being attacked.

But now that's been proven to not work, they will likely covertly build nukes. Pin it on Israel proving they need some.

They're doing something that you only have to do to build nuclear bombs, but "It's only the first step".

And it's not really the first step. You have to research how to do that, build the facilities, hide them in a bunker 300 feet underground, and then refine the Uranium to that point, and all of that can only be done when there's a non-leader like Joe "what's that big porcelain water-chair for?" Biden in the WH.