0% Population Growth in the First Quarter?

[cougar]

They say our 41 million population only grew by 20,107 people in the first quarter of 2025 which they consider 0% but the more interesting line in the article below is this:

"Canada admitted 104,256 immigrants in the first quarter of 2025, while net emigration totalled 17,410."

Does this mean people are leaving Canada as quickly as they come in?    About 80,000 appear to have moved out in the first quarter.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-population-growth-stalls-1.7564569

[Aristides]

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Meanwhile, the number of non-permanent residents dropped by 61,111.

 

[QuebecOverCanada]

It's a welcomed pause.

It could make the unemployment rate go down from its current 7% at this rate, if immigration could lower even more for a little drop in the number of people living in Canada altogether, it could be a huge win for our purchasing power.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, cougar said:

They say our 41 million population only grew by 20,107 people in the first quarter of 2025 which they consider 0% but the more interesting line in the article below is this:

"Canada admitted 104,256 immigrants in the first quarter of 2025, while net emigration totalled 17,410."

Does this mean people are leaving Canada as quickly as they come in?    About 80,000 appear to have moved out in the first quarter.

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-population-growth-stalls-1.7564569

Yes, I believe that's a net. There have been a number of news stories about how people have been leaving Canada and somewhat record numbers in addition a lot of student visas expired and we're not renewed and it was expected that the number of those people would go home.

However the import targets for this year are exceptionally High, and sadly the people leaving are probably the ones we least want to see go while the ones remaining are probably the ones that are the biggest drain on our resources. Not because they want to be but that's just the way it works, it's much easier to leave if you're successful than it is if you're still struggling.

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

sadly the people leaving are probably the ones we least want to see go while the ones remaining are probably the ones that are the biggest drain on our resources. 

I doubt that any of the welfare crowd that came here would get juicier benefits back where they came from. 

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I doubt that any of the welfare crowd that came here would get juicier benefits back where they came from. 

Well the biggest problem is that even if they would, or even if they would get juicier benefits somewhere else, because the liberals have screwed up our system so badly the immigrants that come here frequently can't get ahead and they simply CAN'T go backward or forward and they're stuck here living off the system and reducing our gdp per capita because of a lack of opportunity and choice rather than because they want to.  They might want to work and prosper but for whatever reason they can't and those are the ones who stay, the ones who are more employable are the ones leaving 

[cougar]

20 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well the biggest problem is that even if they would, or even if they would get juicier benefits somewhere else, because the liberals have screwed up our system so badly the immigrants that come here frequently can't get ahead and they simply CAN'T go backward or forward and they're stuck here living off the system and reducing our gdp per capita because of a lack of opportunity and choice rather than because they want to.  They might want to work and prosper but for whatever reason they can't and those are the ones who stay, the ones who are more employable are the ones leaving 

It may also have to do with the type of work Canada has to offer.  A resource based economy needs mostly equipment operators, sales associates for the stores, tellers for the banks - few hi-tech, engineering, research and development opportunities.  Let's hope they are bringing in doctors and nurses now but I highly doubt that. 

[Aristides]

Our birth rate isn't high enough to maintain our population. Without immigration we become a nation of geezers. We need to be selective about who we accept and make sure there are opportunities for them so they stay.

Edited Thursday at 06:25 PM by Aristides

[CdnFox]

14 minutes ago, cougar said:

It may also have to do with the type of work Canada has to offer.  A resource based economy needs mostly equipment operators, sales associates for the stores, tellers for the banks - few hi-tech, engineering, research and development opportunities.  Let's hope they are bringing in doctors and nurses now but I highly doubt that. 

Sure. It also has to do a lot with the fact that immigrants are less desirable to employers then Canadians for a variety of reasons, and that many immigrants have barriers such as language skills and such that limit their ability to find work. They may also have trouble getting accreditation for the skills they are good at and there's no track record of their working Canada that they can present that an employer can follow up on

The reason we were successful with this in the past was because there was a fantastic mentoring system where people from the region that the immigrant was coming from would help make sure they acclimatized, point out the differences in culture so they didn't fall into culture traps, help them get resources they needed to get ahead and to navigate our systems, introduce them to prospective employers who would be willing to give them a shot, and a host of other things

But that system is somewhat limited, you cannot just hire more mentors. What should I did was start bringing in people so fast that it completely overwhelmed that system and now the immigrants don't have the same resources to help them settle in and get started and that makes things worse and worse and worse for many of them.